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Nevilledog

(51,030 posts)
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 01:59 PM Sep 2021

Trump has just called Biden "an illegitimate President" in an official statement



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Sep 13, 2021
I'm waiting on confirmation (this statement has not yet appeared on Trump's website, but it's on chan boards and thedonald), but if genuine, Trump has just called Biden "an illegitimate President" in an official statement, which seems significant.
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Jan Wolfe
@JanNWolfe
it's genuine. got it by email.
10:01 AM · Sep 13, 2021






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Trump has just called Biden "an illegitimate President" in an official statement (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2021 OP
"Official statement," my ass. dchill Sep 2021 #1
Trump is not POTUS. He can't make "official statements." lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #16
THIS malaise Sep 2021 #34
It's his "Projection" syndrome... Justice matters. Sep 2021 #37
It was timed for the hearing on Afghanistan malaise Sep 2021 #40
He can spew batshit crazy nonsense from his hideyhole at Mar A Guano. Trueblue1968 Sep 2021 #51
75 yr. old drama Queen ! it's coming , indictments up the wazoo ! tick-toc mf-45 !! monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #56
And nothing he says is significant, unless.... lastlib Sep 2021 #77
The world would be a better place... jcgoldie Sep 2021 #2
Calling Karma Collect. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2021 #4
I find that in this situation Otto_Harper Sep 2021 #8
Welcome to DU! lastlib Sep 2021 #78
Very True. And why in hell are we paying attention to the bastard? groundloop Sep 2021 #60
Traitor! FalloutShelter Sep 2021 #3
"Official statement" my ass. He's a fucking nobody. W_HAMILTON Sep 2021 #5
Pay particular notice to the semantics of this release superpatriotman Sep 2021 #6
Wrong. NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #12
What do you find wrong with my comment? superpatriotman Sep 2021 #29
That these words are "unprotected." mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #33
I have two words for you: Moebym Sep 2021 #38
With those two words and your vaccination card, you can get a free glazed doughnut at Krispy Kreme. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #43
I disagree with your framing Ponietz Sep 2021 #75
How do you feel about this? mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #83
I'm not much for pretzel logic Ponietz Sep 2021 #86
Trump hates the United States almost as much as Putin does Walleye Sep 2021 #7
Trump doesn't care about the United States dhol82 Sep 2021 #62
Inciting sedition, again. blm Sep 2021 #9
His "statement" is no more official than one I might make. Treefrog Sep 2021 #10
He Cannot Make An Official Statement, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2021 #11
I think the issue is whether it's genuine. Mosby Sep 2021 #21
I Expect It Is, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #25
Considering the random capitalizations, projections, and whiney tone, I'd say it's probably TFG. OMGWTF Sep 2021 #41
All... Please note the following Official Statement from Ohio Joe Ohio Joe Sep 2021 #13
For most "TFG" means 'the former guy' for me it'll always be "that fking guy." OMGWTF Sep 2021 #42
One: "official" statement? Seriously? Two: who actually gives a fuck? Why are we even ... marble falls Sep 2021 #14
Please feel free to ignore dangerous statements made by the leader of the insurrection. Nevilledog Sep 2021 #20
What in the world have I done to you???? marble falls Sep 2021 #67
You said that posts like this shouldn't be on DU Nevilledog Sep 2021 #76
I think there's a point to take notice of here gratuitous Sep 2021 #23
Maybe I'm just paranoid because of Jan 6, wnylib Sep 2021 #55
I confess I underestimated the Jan. 6 failed insurrection gratuitous Sep 2021 #68
He is NOT "President", he is "former-President"... Moostache Sep 2021 #15
From an official loser Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 #17
Public figure or not, it's time to start suing for slander and/or libelous allegations 0rganism Sep 2021 #18
That is call to arms to his fucked up cult . ... Lovie777 Sep 2021 #19
Arm up the capitol and give his tratorous vermin a great big surprise if they start trouble. hadEnuf Sep 2021 #44
Where is cancer when you need it? ZonkerHarris Sep 2021 #22
Question: Why is whatever he says "significant" - unless as evidence of criminal incitement? UTUSN Sep 2021 #24
REPORT this Tweet! PortTack Sep 2021 #26
Eff that guy. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2021 #27
Why is this getting onto Twitter? FloridaBlues Sep 2021 #28
Why is it here? Treefrog Sep 2021 #65
"Terrorism from the right" Hmm Where have we seen that? Projection much Donny? Botany Sep 2021 #30
As if I give a fuck what that barely human has-been says, at this point. (nt) Paladin Sep 2021 #31
TFG doesn't have "official statements." He's a private citizen. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #32
ANTIFA AND BLM!!! budkin Sep 2021 #35
TFG can't make official statements. He's not an official anything. MineralMan Sep 2021 #36
And TFG even threw in the $85 billion in military equipment that got left behind in Afghanistan ... Botany Sep 2021 #39
Official loser. Always has been... Justice matters. Sep 2021 #45
... MoonRiver Sep 2021 #46
He's a deranged cult leader and that's all. BlueStater Sep 2021 #47
Fazed. I hate auto-correct. niyad Sep 2021 #63
Much to my embarrassment, it's not the fault of my mobile device. BlueStater Sep 2021 #81
FUCKDONTRUMP spanone Sep 2021 #48
I just called Ted Cruz an illegitimate senator in a statement Takket Sep 2021 #49
You're going to see more and more of this between now and Saturday Resistance1 Sep 2021 #50
And you know he didn't write this statement ! kimbutgar Sep 2021 #52
Good, between abortion rights and him being the face of the Repugs, we have a chance in midterms. Jon King Sep 2021 #53
Why is he not under indictment? Loge23 Sep 2021 #54
Well, the tell was fun anyway. Chellee Sep 2021 #57
Projecting again, you f'n oraange traitor? Or just riling your base? Do not forget, when those niyad Sep 2021 #58
Why the fuck is this asshole still walking around as a free man? mn9driver Sep 2021 #59
+1 n/t area51 Sep 2021 #66
"Official" how? GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #61
The official loser speaks tirebiter Sep 2021 #64
Just when you think .. Alien Life Form Sep 2021 #69
It's five days before their much anticipated Sept 18. Is this the beginning of another fierywoman Sep 2021 #70
Ding, ding, ding... OneGrassRoot Sep 2021 #82
Officially Stupid EddieOnTheMesa Sep 2021 #71
TFG is just getting the base fired up for 2022. Tommymac Sep 2021 #72
why do we care? Chakaconcarne Sep 2021 #73
He means, "what happened in Afghanistan that I set up" jmowreader Sep 2021 #74
And he set up the covid crisis as well. He failed to be a leader from day one. Nt ecstatic Sep 2021 #87
This could explain that gurgling noise I heard earlier........ eom lastlib Sep 2021 #79
Must be getting short on cash, Corgigal Sep 2021 #80
He has to keep his moronic base riled up. nt Progressive Jones Sep 2021 #84
Please, the former guy needs to be in a mental institution or prison mvd Sep 2021 #85

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
16. Trump is not POTUS. He can't make "official statements."
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:20 PM
Sep 2021

He can spew batshit crazy nonsense from his hideyhole at Mar A Guano. Who gives a fuck?

lastlib

(23,166 posts)
77. And nothing he says is significant, unless....
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 05:03 PM
Sep 2021

...it's "I plead 'Guilty.'"

The former guy has our permission to proceed with self-fornication. With a pitchfork. Sideways.

FalloutShelter

(11,834 posts)
3. Traitor!
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:04 PM
Sep 2021

Five days before insurrection part2.
Tell me again what more we need to understand about Jan 6.

Enough!
sorry… I am pissed off.

W_HAMILTON

(7,840 posts)
5. "Official statement" my ass. He's a fucking nobody.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:06 PM
Sep 2021

Last edited Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:42 PM - Edit history (1)

And that's MY official statement.

superpatriotman

(6,246 posts)
6. Pay particular notice to the semantics of this release
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:07 PM
Sep 2021

It equates Antifa and BLM with terrorists.

This is inflammatory, unprotected speech which could lead to very bad things.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
33. That these words are "unprotected."
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:01 PM
Sep 2021

What is it that Trump said that's going to have him going to trial?

He's just a private citizen mouthing off, which is his right.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
43. With those two words and your vaccination card, you can get a free glazed doughnut at Krispy Kreme.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:23 PM
Sep 2021

Two, if you've had both Moderna or Pfizer shots.

Tell them it's on me.

Ponietz

(2,939 posts)
75. I disagree with your framing
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 05:00 PM
Sep 2021

Words that BLATENTLY further an open criminal conspiracy are not protected.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
83. How do you feel about this?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 08:28 PM
Sep 2021

Last edited Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:21 PM - Edit history (2)

If I were to get into a time machine and go back to 1966 and shout, in the middle of an anti-war demonstration, "Burn your draft cards!" should I be arrested for my words? If I were to be convicted, would that be an appropriate outcome? Would the Supreme Court rule the same way today?

I would not be burning a draft card, but shouting "Words that {BLATANTLY} further an open criminal conspiracy." Should those words deserve protection? Not the act, but the words that encourage that criminal act.

Show your work.

Draft Card Mutilation Act of 1965

By Jason Friedman

Other articles in Laws and Proposed Laws, 1951-2007



From 1941 through 1973, with a short interruption in the late 1940s, young men at age 18 were required by law to register with their local draft boards. Each was classified according to his fitness for service and issued a draft card noting his name, age, and draft status. After Congress adopted the Draft Card Mutilation Act of 1965 to promote the efficient operation of the Selective Service System and preempt venues of resistance, it became a criminal offense knowingly to destroy or mutilate one’s draft card. The Supreme Court struck down a First Amendment challenge to the law. This is a June 20, 1969 photo of Ken Love burning what he claimed was a draft card and his Students for a Democratic Society card in Chicago. (AP Photo, used with permission from The Associated Press)

From 1941 through 1973, with a short interruption in the late 1940s, young men at age 18 were required by law to register with their local draft boards. Each was classified according to his fitness for service and issued a draft card noting his name, age, and draft status.

Draft card destruction viewed as symbolic protest against Vietnam War

Possession of the card proved that the card bearer was compliant with the Selective Service System and had not tried to evade classification for military service.

Draft operations ran relatively smoothly before and during World War II and again during the Korean War and the 1950s. By the mid-1960s, as the United States drafted more troops for the Vietnam War and opposition to the war heightened, some men viewed the public destruction of their draft cards as an effective form of symbolic protest against both the war and the draft system that supported it.

Draft-card burning became one of the most iconic forms of protest during the war. It was a gesture made by young men who wished to buck the system but were not comfortable with more extreme measures such as going to Canada, participating in riots, or destroying induction centers. The symbolic act had legal implications, however.

Burning draft cards was a criminal offense

Burning draft cards was ipso facto illegal because all eligible men were legally required to carry their draft cards with them at all times.

Furthermore, after Congress adopted the Draft Card Mutilation Act of 1965 to promote the efficient operation of the Selective Service System and preempt venues of resistance, it became a criminal offense knowingly to destroy or mutilate one’s draft card.

{snip}

United States v. O'Brien

Full disclosure: I did not burn my draft card. Nor did I encourage anyone to burn his draft card.

Ponietz

(2,939 posts)
86. I'm not much for pretzel logic
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:53 PM
Sep 2021

And won’t address your hypothetical.

We entered RICO territory when a bloc within the GOP, a criminal organization, staged a violent overthrow of a lawfully elected democratic government. To suggest that a coconspirator’s statements in an ongoing criminal enterprise are protected speech is misguided it seems to me.

Read about the ‘speech integral to criminal conduct’ doctrine:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/11/30/the-speech-integral-to-criminal-conduct-exception

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
10. His "statement" is no more official than one I might make.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:10 PM
Sep 2021

He’s a private citizen.

And I wish we’d never hear from him again.

The Magistrate

(95,243 posts)
11. He Cannot Make An Official Statement, Ma'am
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:13 PM
Sep 2021

He can run that little anus he uses for a mouth, but someone has to be in office to make any kind of an official statement, and this vicious baboon is not.

The Magistrate

(95,243 posts)
25. I Expect It Is, Sir
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:35 PM
Sep 2021

And I did not mean to suggest the lady needed correction.

Merely stating the actual case, which I am sure she is aware of.

OMGWTF

(3,943 posts)
41. Considering the random capitalizations, projections, and whiney tone, I'd say it's probably TFG.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:20 PM
Sep 2021

Ohio Joe

(21,731 posts)
13. All... Please note the following Official Statement from Ohio Joe
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:16 PM
Sep 2021

That fuckin guy is a douche.

That is all.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
14. One: "official" statement? Seriously? Two: who actually gives a fuck? Why are we even ...
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:16 PM
Sep 2021

giving him air and on DEMOCTRATIC underground?

Nevilledog

(51,030 posts)
20. Please feel free to ignore dangerous statements made by the leader of the insurrection.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:23 PM
Sep 2021

To me, the word "official" is of no real importance. We are not the intended audience for this, but he does have an audience.

I expect him to tell people to take the gov't back in the lead up to September 18th.

I'll try and make sure that Trump is included on any post like this so you can avoid it in the future.


Nevilledog

(51,030 posts)
76. You said that posts like this shouldn't be on DU
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 05:01 PM
Sep 2021

I was letting you know that I would make sure that Trump was in the title so you could choose not to click on it.

There are different opinions on what kind of monitoring these RWNJs merit. I fall into the group that thinks knowing what they're up to is important. Sorry you took it personally, it really wasn't meant to be.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
23. I think there's a point to take notice of here
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:26 PM
Sep 2021

As mentioned up-thread, the former guy's rabid partisans are gearing up for another boogaloo on September 18. It might come a cropper like the My Pillow knucklehead's big rally in Kentucky this past weekend. Pointing and laughing at Mike Lindell is encouraged.

But this nonsense that the former guy shoves out on his little made-up letterhead is done oftentimes with a purpose. I suspect he's trying to create an "illegitimate president" (look who's talking) vibe for President Biden, and don't be surprised if you start hearing that this week in the popular media. This is where it comes from.

Forewarned is forearmed, as the saying goes. If September 18 comes and goes with little more than another hamberder fart in a whirlwind, we can all point and laugh at the former guy. Some more. I have found it useful to remember these tantrums and remind the former guy's supporters of just how much hot air he generates.

I don't give much more than a fuck about this, but I do think it should be noted.

wnylib

(21,346 posts)
55. Maybe I'm just paranoid because of Jan 6,
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:03 PM
Sep 2021

but what if he is not counting on a large turnout of his crazy followers to turn a rally onto an insurrectionist attack? It didn't succeed that way before.

But on Jan 6 there were armed militia as well as crazy followers. The crazies were cover for the RW armed former military members of groups like Oath Keepers to carry out a mission.

So maybe he learned from the mistakes of his last attempt. What if this time, he has a well trained private army ready for a more efficient coup attempt? I can understand guarding the Capitol Building because of the last time. But there are other branches of government.

Hope I am just being paranoid. Or just plain foolish. But TFG and his fascist friends think and act outside the box.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
68. I confess I underestimated the Jan. 6 failed insurrection
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:30 PM
Sep 2021

One thing that encourages me is that the Capitol is under new management. The former guy was in charge of things on Jan. 6, and he set his mob in motion at the rally beforehand, then scurried off to watch the spectacle. He ignored all requests for assistance or mobilization while he sat watching it all unfold on the teevee, grinning his blood-soaked grin.

As the saying goes, though, there's a new sheriff in town. And he's not going to be ginning up any crowds or having Rudy Giuliani bellow about trial by combat. No, he'll be engaged and monitoring the situation, and if there's trouble, he won't hesitate to summon sufficient law enforcement personnel to keep any mob from getting out of hand.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
15. He is NOT "President", he is "former-President"...
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:19 PM
Sep 2021

This country has ONE PRESIENT at a time, period.

Orange Menace, fuck you. You are no longer the President, and have not been since January 20th.
Accept the truth you goddamn turd and follow GOP health care plans - Get sick, and die faster.

0rganism

(23,931 posts)
18. Public figure or not, it's time to start suing for slander and/or libelous allegations
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:23 PM
Sep 2021

At this point, I think a talented lawyer could show malicious intent. We're well into "shouting fire in a crowded theatre" territory here.

Lovie777

(12,218 posts)
19. That is call to arms to his fucked up cult . ...
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:23 PM
Sep 2021

other wackos are complying with his statement and want their cult to remove Pres. President. I fear for his life and other Democrats.

hadEnuf

(2,177 posts)
44. Arm up the capitol and give his tratorous vermin a great big surprise if they start trouble.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:28 PM
Sep 2021

Zero tolerance.

Botany

(70,449 posts)
30. "Terrorism from the right" Hmm Where have we seen that? Projection much Donny?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:43 PM
Sep 2021








Donny you are not an official anything.

Ocelot II

(115,610 posts)
32. TFG doesn't have "official statements." He's a private citizen.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:58 PM
Sep 2021

So here’s my official statement: Fuck him, sideways.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
36. TFG can't make official statements. He's not an official anything.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:11 PM
Sep 2021

He's just an ex-President. No power whatever.

Botany

(70,449 posts)
39. And TFG even threw in the $85 billion in military equipment that got left behind in Afghanistan ...
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:19 PM
Sep 2021

... canard too. No our military destroyed or made useless just about everything that got left behind,
some of the US equipment that we gave the Afghan Army got into Taliban hands, and the reason the
stuff got left behind is because of TFG's deal with the Taliban.

Justice matters.

(6,921 posts)
45. Official loser. Always has been...
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:28 PM
Sep 2021
an official, but "officially *hidden*" loser.

Record-breaking Business loser.

Fraudulently *elected* POTUS.

November 2020 loser.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
47. He's a deranged cult leader and that's all.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:37 PM
Sep 2021

I’m not phased by this. He’s been lying about the election for almost a year now. Hell, he was lying about it even before he actually lost it. It’s not like his horde of nut job followers could possibly believe the election was stolen any more than they already do, so whatever.

He can go stick a cactus firmly up his ample ass.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
81. Much to my embarrassment, it's not the fault of my mobile device.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 05:09 PM
Sep 2021

I used the wrong word, just as I’ve been doing forever.

Well, thanks for unintentionally alerting me to my grammatical error. I won’t make that mistake again in the future. 👋

Takket

(21,529 posts)
49. I just called Ted Cruz an illegitimate senator in a statement
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:41 PM
Sep 2021

So Ted has to leave the senate now, right?

Probably not a coincidence this comes up shortly before the “rally” (aka terrorist attack) coming to DC

Resistance1

(103 posts)
50. You're going to see more and more of this between now and Saturday
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:42 PM
Sep 2021

He is stoking up his cult followers with is audible dog whistles. To be a dumbass, he knows what he is doing

kimbutgar

(21,060 posts)
52. And you know he didn't write this statement !
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:52 PM
Sep 2021

Sounds like one of his sycophants wrote it.

Laughable though that he is eaten up with so much jealously that President is more popular than him. He is so pathetic!

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
53. Good, between abortion rights and him being the face of the Repugs, we have a chance in midterms.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:53 PM
Sep 2021

The chance we have in the midterms is Dems being excited about an off year election. TFG fires up Dems like he does Repugs. Toss in the fight for women's rights, we have more motivated voters.

The only chance we have vs redistricting and voter suppression is a super interested and motivated base.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
54. Why is he not under indictment?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:59 PM
Sep 2021

Serious question.
Why?
What's the status of the numerous lawsuits that he faces?
Why has there been no action on "Individual #1"?
Are all of his sexual crimes going unpunished? Wasn't there a dozen of so complaints?
What about the tax return scandal?
Why has he legally unscathed by the January 6th insurrection?

This latest press release or whatever he calls them is gibberish to us, but rocket fuel for his idiot supporters. He will ignite a fire that will consume this nation and he will waltz away from it all.

Why?

Chellee

(2,091 posts)
57. Well, the tell was fun anyway.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:09 PM
Sep 2021

He's an asshole and he makes ridiculous, assholish statements. That aside, it's interesting that even he doesn't think he had anything to do with the vaccine. Please note that he put the words gift, terrorism, and Trump in quotation marks. Gift because it wasn't really a gift, although, also, that didn't actually happen. Terrorism because he doesn't believe that right wing terrorism is terrorism. And Trump...because he knows that he had nothing to do with it?

niyad

(113,079 posts)
58. Projecting again, you f'n oraange traitor? Or just riling your base? Do not forget, when those
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:10 PM
Sep 2021

kool-ade drinkers show up at the Capitol this time, you will not be in charge of its defense.

mn9driver

(4,420 posts)
59. Why the fuck is this asshole still walking around as a free man?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:17 PM
Sep 2021

He is guilty of conspiracy to commit sedition, election tampering and campaign finance fraud. And that’s just from public information.

If he isn’t indicted and charged with SOMETHING very soon, we can say goodbye to our quaint little experiment with democracy.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
61. "Official" how?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:20 PM
Sep 2021

He's a private citizen, with no authority or ability to make any declarations that are in any way "official." He is no longer the President of the United States, regardless of how much he pretends to still hold that job. The sooner people stop playing along with his game, the sooner this shit will end.

Alien Life Form

(370 posts)
69. Just when you think ..
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:31 PM
Sep 2021

these disgusting pigs cant go any lower..they do!
This man needs to be charged with some criminal offense...find something..anything and LOCK HIM UP!

fierywoman

(7,672 posts)
70. It's five days before their much anticipated Sept 18. Is this the beginning of another
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:32 PM
Sep 2021

incitement for insurrection?

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
72. TFG is just getting the base fired up for 2022.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:41 PM
Sep 2021

The Democratic Base.

The BLM Base.

The Women's Right's Base.

The Medical Base.

The Science Base.

The Youth Base.

The Peace Base

The Reality Based Base.

mvd

(65,162 posts)
85. Please, the former guy needs to be in a mental institution or prison
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:21 PM
Sep 2021

Still hoping Garland gets on him.

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