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USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:27 PM Sep 2021

Why is Twitter allowing this

This is just a work around on his Twitter ban, and these statements are getting bolder and bolder. This last one is the main reason he was banned in the first place…

Edit- if you have twitter, then you need to report this tweet


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Why is Twitter allowing this (Original Post) USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2021 OP
Why are you sharing his release here? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #1
Because it's important to know what's going on USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2021 #11
Absolutely. brush Sep 2021 #15
If Trump were to post that release here, he'd be banned, I assume. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #20
Thank you. Treefrog Sep 2021 #12
Because it was shared here, I was able to report it to Twitter as election misinformation. DavidDvorkin Sep 2021 #31
If you are on twitter..report it.,the more reports they receive the sooner it will come down PortTack Sep 2021 #2
Yeah, I see what's going on. Kingofalldems Sep 2021 #3
Reported Nevilledog Sep 2021 #4
Reported! 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2021 #5
Good that's 2..let's make it a whole bunch more PortTack Sep 2021 #6
i reported it as well CatWoman Sep 2021 #9
Reported. n/t FSogol Sep 2021 #17
Because Twit is in league with the Reptilian Party, same as always. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #7
Because it's posted as a pic Sympthsical Sep 2021 #8
Understand USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2021 #10
I couldn't speak to that Sympthsical Sep 2021 #19
I see what your saying, but USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2021 #22
This statement is all over the place on Twitter today Sympthsical Sep 2021 #26
How do you propose that Twitter prevent people from tweeting a statement by him? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #13
Ban the account USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2021 #16
Again I ask, how would this work? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #18
Your question is legit USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2021 #21
They'd have to monitor accounts pretty closely since I don't see any way to use an algorithm for StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #23
They've done it before. Their TOS calls is "ban evading" or something like that. PSPS Sep 2021 #28
But how can they easily determine when a post is band evading and when it's just quoting someone? StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #29
Reported to Twitter. revmclaren Sep 2021 #14
This account has been reported repeatedly so... IrishAfricanAmerican Sep 2021 #24
Meanwhile my account was permanently banned for calling out an anti-vaxxer budkin Sep 2021 #25
Why are you enlisting DU as trump's twitter replacement? PSPS Sep 2021 #27
Naw USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 2021 #30

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
11. Because it's important to know what's going on
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:43 PM
Sep 2021

And to not live in a bubble…that is how the other side lives and why they are so crazy.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,311 posts)
20. If Trump were to post that release here, he'd be banned, I assume.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:56 PM
Sep 2021

So are you posting the release, or the fact that someone tweeted the release, which is visible in their tweet, which you posted?

PortTack

(32,750 posts)
2. If you are on twitter..report it.,the more reports they receive the sooner it will come down
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:30 PM
Sep 2021

Just sent my report

Sympthsical

(9,054 posts)
8. Because it's posted as a pic
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:36 PM
Sep 2021

The algorithms are slower to catch those than straight up text. Get enough reports in, a human will then take a gander.

You have to realize a lot of content monitors are overworked and underpaid at these companies. They often have massive back logs.

This post has not been up very long. It takes a minute.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
10. Understand
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:40 PM
Sep 2021

But I am surprised this account isn’t already on its radar and hasn’t been banned yet. It’s basically Trump and it’s been up for a few months now. It seems like the one he did before as a work around was immediately taken down.

Sympthsical

(9,054 posts)
19. I couldn't speak to that
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:55 PM
Sep 2021

I have a buddy at Twitter who's a software lead. He told me how they go through things, but I never specifically asked what they've been doing on the political end.

I took a gander through her feed. It is kind of an interesting question. The post in your OP is clearly in violation and breaks Twitter's rules. However, Trump is a public figure - and a former president to boot. What he says does have news value. You can't really entirely censor a major political figure. It would be a terrible precedent. Social media banning people for repeating a major politician's words?

He was kicked off for violating standards again and again. But if someone posts something he releases publicly, and it doesn't violate the standards, then is it really a problem?

The tweet in your OP is clearly in violation. The other stuff just seems the usual Trump shittery. Awful, but not necessarily breaking rules.

But, as I said, I only went so far down.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
22. I see what your saying, but
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:03 PM
Sep 2021

Twitter already set the precedent by banning him in the first place, and then banning another account that was doing the same thing that this lady is doing.

Sympthsical

(9,054 posts)
26. This statement is all over the place on Twitter today
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:38 PM
Sep 2021

Are they going to start going after all those accounts? I agree with you that particular statement is in violation. But now the statement itself is newsworthy. They're probably not going to touch it. Not only would they have to ding all the Trumpists posting it, they'd have to ding all the anti-Trumpists for posting it. I don't see them getting involved.

In other cases, simply posting the man's words if they're not violating standards doesn't seem actionable to me. Nor do I particularly think it should be actionable.

The feed you linked posts other things as well. It's clearly an individual and not a puppet account. I believe the account banned before was clearly a puppet account.

Twitter isn't going to go around banning people simply because they're Trump supporters. That would be a terrible precedent to start setting for social media.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
13. How do you propose that Twitter prevent people from tweeting a statement by him?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:50 PM
Sep 2021

How exactly would that work?

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
16. Ban the account
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:52 PM
Sep 2021

That’s exactly what they did with another account that was similar to this….this person is basically the twitter proxy to Trump

Edit - to me it’s simple…if someone is banned from twitter, then anyone who puts out statements from him get banned too

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
18. Again I ask, how would this work?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:53 PM
Sep 2021

Anyone who mentions Trump gets banned? Or just anyone who quotes him? Or something else?

The OP quoted part of Trump's statement. If they posted the same question on Twitter, should they be banned?

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
21. Your question is legit
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:58 PM
Sep 2021

I think I would go with your third answer “or something else”…so yes. a mention is fine and so is a quote (unless it became a habit and the only thing on that person’s account)…but if you look at this lady’s account, she is putting out full statements from Trump that sound just like his old twitter account and is really the only thing that she is tweeting…I think that is worthy of a ban

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
23. They'd have to monitor accounts pretty closely since I don't see any way to use an algorithm for
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:22 PM
Sep 2021

this - a lot of people quote Trump for legitimate reasons.

I agree - if someone is abusing it the way she is, they should do something. But it would be hard to keep up with everyone since it would have to be reviewed on a case-by-case basis, which is very cost and time intensive.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
29. But how can they easily determine when a post is band evading and when it's just quoting someone?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:13 PM
Sep 2021

As I said with your lots of legitimate decent posts from quotes and even post various statements he issues. I just don't see a simple way for Twitter to prevent that without dealing with it on a tweet by tweet basis, which would miss an awful lot.

budkin

(6,699 posts)
25. Meanwhile my account was permanently banned for calling out an anti-vaxxer
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:27 PM
Sep 2021

This is what I replied with that got my account suspended

"Have fun on a ventilator begging for the vaccine while you choke to death!"


They said I was "hoping for someone to die." BS.

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,167 posts)
30. Naw
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:39 PM
Sep 2021

I rather just put you on full ignore, as you can do the same to me…and I will just leave it at that

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