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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 02:59 PM Sep 2021

TFG claimed without evidence that China & Russia are examining helicopters abandoned in Afghanistan

Former President Donald Trump has claimed, without providing evidence, that China and Russia were seizing helicopters abandoned by the US military in Afghanistan and plundering their secrets.

During its swift pullout from Afghanistan, the US military left behind aircraft, land vehicles, guns, and scores of other equipment.

"I guarantee that China, Russia already have our Apache helicopters, and they're taking them apart to find out exactly how they're made. They're the best in the world by far," Trump said during an interview on "Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson" that aired Sunday.

"And they're taking them apart so they can make the exact same equipment. They're very good at that. It's a disgrace."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-claimed-without-evidence-china-114124681.html

So much bullshit to clean up.

First of all the helicopters were the ones that belonged to the Afghan armed forces. I know they had Blackhawks and Kiowas. I cannot find anything beside Trump's rambling about them having Apache choppers.

The Blackhawk is largely transport. The Kiowa is armed but its use by the US military was discontinued in 2017.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

underpants

(182,776 posts)
3. Mostly observational helicopters and the Chinese already have them
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:05 PM
Sep 2021

We had these in my Cav unit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_OH-58_Kiowa

Primary users
United States Army (until 2020)[3]
Republic of China Army
Royal Saudi Land Forces
Croatian Air Force

Firestorm49

(4,032 posts)
5. The idiot has never been able to substantiate anything.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:08 PM
Sep 2021

Our values as a nation have deteriorated significantly ever since TFG was let out of his cage. It’s hard to return to decency, integrity, and honesty once the brainwashing has been out long enough. You know, the old shit on a wall premise. As the old expression goes, times change, but this mess is a whole new chapter in a very bad book.

Joe has what it takes but is the damage repairable? Let’s hope so.

brush

(53,768 posts)
7. TFG is such a craven asshole. He knows he made an agreement...
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 03:41 PM
Sep 2021

Last edited Mon Sep 13, 2021, 05:17 PM - Edit history (1)

with the Taliban in Febuary 2020 to leave Afghanistan by May of 2021 then did nothing at all towards evacuating our forces. He did however, have time to plan and tweet constantly about the Jan. 6 "stop the steal" rally after he lost the election in Nov. 2020.

He at least had his priorities straight in his insurrectionist mind.

PortTack

(32,757 posts)
9. The choppers left behind had all delicate software removed and were pretty destroyed
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:21 PM
Sep 2021

Smashed gauges, routers destroyed.

Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #10)

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
11. I really do wish this kind of thread would stop. Who cares wtf he lies about today?
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:29 PM
Sep 2021

That's my only comment.

enough of the threads about donald fucking trump.

auto trashing thread.

Aristus

(66,319 posts)
12. The Apache has been around for about forty years.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:35 PM
Sep 2021

And if China or Russia ever wanted to know anything about it, they could just consult Jane's Defence Weekly.

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
13. We only sell the Apache to select allies.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:36 PM
Sep 2021

Those would have never been given to the afghan military. As for the Blackhawk whatever there is to know about the Blackhawk has long been known.

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