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captain queeg

(10,089 posts)
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:13 PM Sep 2021

I've read of a few medical people who are anti vaxers

I suppose they make the news because they are so unusual within the medical field, but it sounds like there are quite a few. I wonder how they convince themselves (not enough to really delve into their opinions). Then I think within my profession how there are outlier opinions about things that are well proven. I guess it boils down to ego; you know more than others. There were times I was pretty sure about something and turned out to be wrong, but at least I had the ability to admit it.

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Mr.Bill

(24,236 posts)
6. Remember hospital personnel includes
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:34 PM
Sep 2021

many who are not medical professionals. Housekeeping, engineering, cafeteria, groundskeepers, security, etc.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
2. I was VERY surprised weeks ago...
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:21 PM
Sep 2021

... when I read that people with PhD's were the most hesitant to get vaccinated! They were even worse than the Trump supporters!

That poll was conducted shortly before the vaccines received full FDA approval, however, so maybe it's different now?

On the other hand, I just looked for the source (since I never bookmarked it) and I instead found this article which strongly questions the legitimacy of it!
https://www.cbs17.com/news/north-carolina-news/fact-check-setting-the-record-straight-on-claims-about-vaccine-hesitancy-among-ph-d-s/

In summary, it's suspected that responders were LYING about their education levels.

Not that Trump supporters would ever lie, of course.

yardwork

(61,538 posts)
3. I'm reasonably certain that people with PhDs aren't overrepresented among anti-vaxxers.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:24 PM
Sep 2021

I can well believe that anti-vaxxers might lie.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
4. Yes, I agree.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:25 PM
Sep 2021

We all need to be careful with some of those polls, especially when it's not clear how the information was collected.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
11. You're welcome, although my post was like...
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:45 PM
Sep 2021

... a stream of consciousness, with an update about halfway through it!

Lol, I decided to just keep it that way.

Phoenix61

(16,992 posts)
12. That's not exactly what that data set showed.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:53 PM
Sep 2021

It showed they were the least likely to change their opinion over time.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
13. Oh, that's right! It also showed very high hesitancy, though.
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:58 PM
Sep 2021

It's probably a moot point since that data was based on the honor system, expecting respondents to be honest.

And as Trump showed his supporters, they might as well LIE BIG.

mucifer

(23,478 posts)
5. This should make you feel better :
Mon Sep 13, 2021, 09:28 PM
Sep 2021

AMA survey shows over 96% of doctors fully vaccinated against COVID-19

JUN 11, 2021




CHICAGO — The American Medical Association (AMA) today released a new survey (PDF) among practicing physicians that shows more than 96 percent of surveyed U.S. physicians have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, with no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions. Of the physicians who are not yet vaccinated, an additional 45 percent do plan to get vaccinated.

The national AMA survey is the first to specifically collect data on practicing physicians’ COVID-19 vaccination rates. The survey was conducted June 3–8 and showed an increase of more than 20 percent for physicians who have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19 compared to a May 2021 Medscape poll.

“Practicing physicians across the country are leading by example, with an amazing uptake of the COVID-19 vaccines,” said AMA President Susan R. Bailey, MD. “Physicians and clinicians are uniquely positioned to listen to and validate patient concerns, and one of the most powerful anecdotes a physician can offer is that they themselves have been vaccinated. You can take it from your doctor: the COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. With COVID-19 vaccines readily available and approved for all people 12 years old and up, we urge you to get vaccinated—take the single most important step you can to protect yourself, your family, and end the COVID-19 pandemic.”

For months, the AMA has worked to bolster vaccine confidence, reduce vaccine hesitancy and provide physicians with the information and resources they need to answer patient questions. In October, the AMA launched a webinar series, “What Physicians Need to Know,” to ensure physicians are continuously informed about the federal review process for COVID-19 vaccine candidates. The first two webinars featured fact-based insights from the nation’s highest-ranking subject matter experts working to protect public health from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), including an overview of the FDA’s vaccine review process and an update from the CDC on COVID-19 vaccine development and distribution. More recently, in the eighth episode, the AMA joined with the de Beaumont Foundation for a webinar to help physicians respond to common vaccine misinformation among patients.

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-over-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
18. Oregon dept of health
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 01:37 AM
Sep 2021

shows that over 90% of doctors with an active Oregon license have been vaccinated in Oregon. That's an undercount, because doctors vaccinated at the VA, military, or another state, etc. wouldn't show up as positive in that statistic.

The highest % was Dentists, and the lowest was chiropractors.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,164 posts)
14. My primary care physician is SO anti-vax that he wouldn't allow me to come into his office
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 12:10 AM
Sep 2021

for more than 30 days after my second vaccination. Something about my shedding spike proteins from the vaccine.

Oh, did I mention that, also, no one at his office wears a mask?

I wish I could find a new doctor.

Silent3

(15,147 posts)
15. How is it that you're stuck with this doctor and can't choose someone else?
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 12:21 AM
Sep 2021

I'd drop a doctor like that immediately!

I don't even have a primary care physician anymore anyway. They kept getting changed on me via promotion, retirement, change of employer... I gave up on constantly choosing a new doctor to be assigned to me. I'll just take whoever is available now.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,164 posts)
17. I live in a small town, not a large city
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 01:26 AM
Sep 2021

And my area is notorious for having pretty bad doctors. (If my husband had taken the local oncologist's advice after he was diagnosed, he would have died a full decade earlier.)

The couple of decent PCPs here are either not taking any new patients, don't take Medicare, or are "concierge" doctors who require you to pay as much as a few thousand dollars per year for the privilege of being their patient.

I do drive 4 hours roundtrip to the Big City™ to see specialists. At this point I'm thinking of looking for a primary care doctor down there as well.

captain queeg

(10,089 posts)
19. I'm fortunate to have the same pCP for about 15 yrs. prior to him I had a new one every year
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:47 AM
Sep 2021

He hasn’t taken new patients in a long time. If you find one you can trust stick with them. I live in a big enough area that there are plenty of doctors but the advantages of having the same one for years are many. I have to travel further for my oncologist but still less than an hour away. When you see those polls of the best places to live or retire, access to medical care is near the top.

Karma13612

(4,541 posts)
16. A couple counties
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 12:29 AM
Sep 2021

Away from us, in NY-21, the community hospital will no longer be delivering babies. Half dozen nurses quit because they didn’t want to comply with the vaccination mandate.

Can you believe that?

The area went for TFG by like 70%.

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