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brewens

(13,536 posts)
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:24 AM Sep 2021

Do ER's have a way to determine if COVID patients are vaccinated other than the card or their

word? These COVIDiots won't think twice about lying if it comes down to rationing care and taking the vaccinated first.

If it was up to me and a COVIDiot was in ICU and any other patient needed that bed, they would jerk it's ass out of there and send them somewhere else, or not.

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fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
12. Only if it comes back as zero anti-bodies
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:48 AM
Sep 2021

But having anti-bodies doesn't mean that you are vaccinated.

Quite a few people have covid anti-bodies either from having Covid, or having brushes with it that didn't develop into a full blown case.

Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
2. Well, they're not going to ration care based on vaxx status to begin with...
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:27 AM
Sep 2021

and no, I don't know if there is a way to test for vax status, perhaps through antibody analysis, but that's above my pay grade.

JohnSJ

(92,060 posts)
5. The records are definitely kept at the facility where they got the vaccine, and I would think it
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:36 AM
Sep 2021

wouldn’t be too difficult to extract that data if they wanted it

I suspect that data is also transmitted to the CDC because that is how they determine the number who have been vaccinated


PirateRo

(933 posts)
10. They are tracked by the state
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:45 AM
Sep 2021

I scheduled with the state and with a provider hospital. The records showed up for me in the Docket app on my iPhone as recorded by the state. I did not enter that information. There is also the Excelsior app if you live in NY. Likely, there are other apps.

I guess it’s possible to receive a vaccine that fell off a truck but I needed two forms of ID, including a picture ID.

hlthe2b

(102,105 posts)
8. See my post below. Those immunization registries in state depts. of health are supposed to
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:41 AM
Sep 2021

include those administered by private providers as well. It isn't just for vaccine administered in public health clinics.

AkFemDem

(1,823 posts)
14. Right but-
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:55 AM
Sep 2021

What I mean by “in state facility” is there isn’t currently a national database. You need to be in the state where you have the vaccine for it to be accessible information by health care workers.

hlthe2b

(102,105 posts)
15. Yes. As I posted downstream, every state health dept. received CDC funding for these registries
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 12:01 PM
Sep 2021

but not all did so in an effective or comprehensive manner--nor have some states put any needed emphasis on making sure that all providers are complying. Most states did a fairly good job with childhood vaccines because of push from schools, though.

hlthe2b

(102,105 posts)
6. Not readily, but states that require adult vaccines be entered in official vaccine registry
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:38 AM
Sep 2021

(like the Colorado Immunization Information Portal, CIIP), those vaccine records are searchable with the proper identifying information that hospitals likely would be authorized to request from the patient.

All states (health departments) were provided funding several years ago to develop such a registry for childhood vaccines, but not all have extended it to adult vaccines, unfortunately. And even those that do may not uniformly get compliance from physicians and other vaccine providers in keeping the information updated.

It does seem to work pretty well in states that have made it a priority, though.

Initech

(100,029 posts)
13. In California we have an immunization database run by the CA DPH.
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:48 AM
Sep 2021

There's definitely no lying or faking around that one!

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
16. And L.A. County also has a portal as well
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 12:36 PM
Sep 2021

where you can download your COVID vaccine record that has a QR code.

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