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Unvaccinated Hospitalizations Will Cost Taxpayers $5 Billion (Original Post) NJCher Sep 2021 OP
Start going after assets. roamer65 Sep 2021 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #2
I hope they do NJCher Sep 2021 #3
We Will Though SoCalDavidS Sep 2021 #4
Yep. That is the correct answer. roamer65 Sep 2021 #5
Offshore accounts. lpbk2713 Sep 2021 #7
so the guy who goes to the hospital for a heart attack NJCher Sep 2021 #6
If the deplorables weren't lying about being on public assistance before, they will be now. Runningdawg Sep 2021 #8
At least the ones that die won't collect Social Security, Disability Insurance, Medicare... Klaralven Sep 2021 #9
1-2% will die. Up to 9% may be permanently disabled by long Covid. meadowlander Sep 2021 #11
Most of the other 98% never go to the hospital Klaralven Sep 2021 #14
They'll be first in line to collect disability benefits though meadowlander Sep 2021 #15
They should be billed to each state. jmbar2 Sep 2021 #10
Take it out of their highway grants. paleotn Sep 2021 #13
+1,000 NJCher Sep 2021 #21
Interestingly, there's a whole industry dedicated to collecting.... paleotn Sep 2021 #12
And if they survive, they will bitch moan and groan about how they shouldn't have to raccoon Sep 2021 #16
It's reportedly costing billions of dollars to treat hospitalized unvaccinated COVID patients LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #17
I like this treatment plan LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #18
20 Percent of Unvaccinated Delta Workers Receive Shot Within 2 Weeks of Surcharge Prompt LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #19
It's worse than that. I've noticed insurance companies are cutting back on coverage Johonny Sep 2021 #20

Response to roamer65 (Reply #1)

lpbk2713

(42,744 posts)
7. Offshore accounts.
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:58 PM
Sep 2021


If they get wind the feds are looking for offshore accounts they'll pony up in a hurry.

NJCher

(35,625 posts)
6. so the guy who goes to the hospital for a heart attack
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 06:57 PM
Sep 2021

and has no insurance has to pay, but a Covid unvaccinated with no insurance doesn't have to pay?

Somehow I don't think that's gonna' fly.

Runningdawg

(4,514 posts)
8. If the deplorables weren't lying about being on public assistance before, they will be now.
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 07:00 PM
Sep 2021

And the ones walking off jobs looking for a big payday in the future after winning lawsuits over mandates will find themselves in that situation shortly. If lawyers thought there was any money to be made on their cases the advertising would be EVERYWHERE.

meadowlander

(4,388 posts)
11. 1-2% will die. Up to 9% may be permanently disabled by long Covid.
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 07:09 PM
Sep 2021

Suspect that math won't shake out at a net benefit.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
14. Most of the other 98% never go to the hospital
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 07:30 PM
Sep 2021

We are also saving a lot on health care costs since elective procedures are being canceled.

The health care system has a large fixed cost and a relatively fixed capacity. There's some incremental capacity and costs associated with Covid, but it is probably a reasonably small percentage of the whole.

I haven't seen a full accounting with all the pluses and minuses added up, but I'd bet that it is not much worse than break even, since Covid has reduced life expectancy by a year or two. That's a big savings.

meadowlander

(4,388 posts)
15. They'll be first in line to collect disability benefits though
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 07:42 PM
Sep 2021

even if they lie to their friends about it and some of them will be collecting unemployment and disability for decades.

jmbar2

(4,865 posts)
10. They should be billed to each state.
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 07:08 PM
Sep 2021

Mitch McConnell, DeathSentence, and Greg Abbott should be responsible for paying those bills for the unvaccinated.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
12. Interestingly, there's a whole industry dedicated to collecting....
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 07:16 PM
Sep 2021

on unpaid medical debt. Usually, we consider them the lowest of vultures, which they are. But in this case, they may be serving up just deserts.

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
16. And if they survive, they will bitch moan and groan about how they shouldn't have to
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 07:45 PM
Sep 2021

And if they survive, they will bitch moan and groan about how they shouldn’t have to Pay taxes for Anything that helps other people.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,951 posts)
17. It's reportedly costing billions of dollars to treat hospitalized unvaccinated COVID patients
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 08:54 PM
Sep 2021

Unvaccinated covid patients should be charged for the costs of their treatment




A new analysis from the Kaiser Family Foundation pegged the preventable cost of hospitalizing and treating unvaccinated COVID patients between June and August at an estimated $5.7 billion, CNN reports.

Using data from both the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Service as well as health care studies, the report's authors found that each of the 287,000 "preventable" COVID-19 hospitalizations in the last three months cost around $20,000. When multiplied together, the two numbers amount to the $5.7 billion figure.

The analysis deems "preventable" hospitalizations to be "hospitalizations of unvaccinated adults for COVID-19 treatment primarily, while accounting for any post-vaccination infections that would have been expected if this population had been vaccinated," per CNN. The authors believe $5.7 billion to likely be "a conservative estimate of costs."

The study also "did not account for outpatient care costs, and some data indicates inpatient health care costs for Covid-19 treatment may be higher than the $20,000 figure used," per CNN.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,951 posts)
19. 20 Percent of Unvaccinated Delta Workers Receive Shot Within 2 Weeks of Surcharge Prompt
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:49 PM
Sep 2021

We need to raise the cost of insurance for the unvaccinated and make them pay for the costs associated with their stupidity




Just two weeks after Delta Air Lines announced they would begin penalizing unvaccinated employees with a $200 monthly surcharge, the company said that nearly 20 percent of those staff members have opted to receive the COVID-19 vaccine.

Delta's chief health officer, Henry Ting, said the figure represents "a huge number in terms of shifting that group that's most reluctant," during a media briefing held last week by the Infectious Diseases Society of America, according to Insider.

Ting said that out of Delta's 20,000 unvaccinated workers, around one-fifth have gotten the shot in the past two weeks. The rising vaccination rates come after the company said that unvaccinated employees enrolled in Delta's health care plan will face a $200 monthly surcharge beginning in November.

When the extra fee was first announced on August 25, roughly 74 percent of Delta's 80,000 employees were vaccinated. Now, Delta's vaccination rate has climbed to 78 percent, Insider reported.

Johonny

(20,820 posts)
20. It's worse than that. I've noticed insurance companies are cutting back on coverage
Tue Sep 14, 2021, 11:51 PM
Sep 2021

My physical therapy coverage has gone to hell in the last 16 months. I assume to "save" cost for the insurance companies.

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