Gee what happened to the California Doomers?

[Kingofalldems]

They were all over here a few weeks ago with their 50% BS, and 'we' could lose this one.

Funny.

[CountAllVotes]

1. Who cares?

I was busy filling out my ballot and mailing it in!

They lost again.

They are LOSERS.

[louslobbs]

9. I just finished running for my life this morning

Down here in Palm Springs……I’m exhausted, but it was worth it…..lol.

[spanone]

2. In the end, it wasn't even remotely close.

[NCDem47]

3. Reverse psychology?

To keep Dems motivated and not rest on laurels?

[CrackityJones75]

16. Do we really need that here?

It is insulting and annoying.

[StarfishSaver]

32. See my post below

Case in point ...

[Demsrule86]

31. That is BS...it works just the opposite...if you think you will lose then a why bother attitude take

over. I have done GOTV for more than 15 years...and that has always been my experince.

[WA-03 Democrat]

4. Someone asked

If they needed to buy a “Boycott California” to match their “Boycott Texas” t-shirt yesterday.

I assured them that the right t-shirt to buy is the “I CA”

The Democratic Party didn’t fall for the same reasons it prevailed in 2018 and 2020. The USA is not in favor of fascism. We want and love DEMOCRACY.

[PortTack]

5. The m$m made sure it looked like a horse race. The pollsters are just as guilty!

[Retrograde]

18. M$M's main purpose is making money

They wanted to make it look like a potential disaster for Newsom because that would get more viewers and therefore more ad revenue. And pollsters don't seem to have quite grasped that more voters are voting early or by mail, and that fewer people are answering phones if they don't recognize the number, so their results are biased.

[brush]

6. Yeah, there were many of them spouting that oft repeated...

bit of so-called conventional wisdom that republicans had a good shot at the recall because they will be more energized to come out and vote than Democrats.

Even some journalists repeated that bullshit because they just accepted it too as fact when all it was was a republican talking point.

[JohnSJ]

7. If that motivated people to mail in their ballot or vote, I am ok with that

[Bobstandard]

8. I resemble that remark!

I, among others, was sh’’ing bricks that the recall would succeed. Early polls weren’t encouraging and it was obvious that the Yes forces were motivated, organized, and well funded. I was in a panic and wasn’t quiet about it. Let’s face it, any other result would have been a terrible thing

I’m not sorry or contrite. In fact, I believe I did my part in securing victory, not just by voting, but by speaking out.

I’m happy and relieved that the recall failed. I’m really happy that it was a blowout.

[ck4829]

10. It's far better to say that and be wrong than to have said Elder had no chance and be wrong

2016 should have taught us that never assume any election will be “easy” or “there’s no way the crazy can pull it off”.

[Sympthsical]

11. Elder happened

As soon as he started talking and getting media play, the polls stopped being close and started rapidly diverging to the result we got.

But hey, gotta needle the Dems, I guess.

Heaven forfend we actually care about what's going on in our state and motivate to keep it Democratic.

The horror of it all.

Probably should've laid back with an "It's in the bag," attitude. That's never steered us wrong. Especially not nationally.

You're literally flicking at people who sounded the alarm to keep California blue.

Is ok. My Wednesday morning is kind of slow, too. Maybe we can get some intraparty conflict going on a morning of victory. You know, just for giggles.

[Treefrog]

24. Thank you.

This op doesn’t surprise me in the least however.

[hlthe2b]

12. Oh, stop it. We all had reason to worry about what would happen in the largest state

(population-wise). I volunteered my time to phonebank, as did other DUers.

You may think it wasn't needed, but damn. A little appreciation wouldn't kill you. This OP should be deleted.

[Kaleva]

14. At least you are no longer accusing us who thought COVID19 was serious of spreading hysteria

Comments you made last year:

"So promoting hysteria over this virus, when Americans won't even take basic precautions against the most serious and threatening virus circulating currently is hardly the most responsible protection message."

and this:

"Surgical facemasks won't protect you. You need N-95 HEPA filter masks.

FYI

That said, you are jumping to conclusions right now. Right now, flu is more likely to infect you."

To be fair, you changed your tune later when people were dying by the hundreds and thousands and it's possible you may have posted your appreciation for those of us here who were sounding warning bells.

[hlthe2b]

19. Everyne who knows me knows better than that

everyone.

Your posting a comment about flu during the earliest time period when it was absolutely true and likewise a true comment about N95 v sx facemasks out of context shows yourself in an extremely unflattering manner.

Many here know my expertise and i have nothing to explain to you.

Whatever your issue, get over it.

Everyone will likewise note you did not include dates of those points from early 2020. While i suppose i should be flattered you took so much time to search my old posts, albeit in a disingenuous manner, some might wonder if you are stalking for some reason…

[cally]

17. I agree...we had real reason to worry

All I saw in California was yes on recall and local activists promoting the recall until Democrats saw those polls and got active. We needed to get folks to vote to defeat this and we did. Without that push and focus, I’m not sure we would have had these results

[Hortensis]

20. Yes. Even with twice the registered voters, I couldn't help worrying.

This time in 2016, Hillary was way out ahead of tRump, with such long coattals that we were sure of a majority in the senate and even the house was newly possible, plus various states. Even if we didn't do as well as expected, we couldn't lose and sensible people did not lie awake in the middle of the night worrying about what was not really possible...

Everything that's happened was not really possible. Not here. I'm both traumatized and more aware than then.

And extremely grateful to our wonderful voters in California. This will help the entire nation in 2022 and 2024.

[dsc]

15. I am quite glad Dems showed up

It was far from crazy to think there was a problem given the poll numbers.

[FelineOverlord]

21. My husband and I were text banking for weeks

We did it because we are TERRIBLE at phone banking.

There were thousands of us texting on a daily basis. We even “broke Spoke” a couple of times (Spoke is the texting software).

Yesterday I texted for six hours and sent at least 3000 texts. The last few days I received many replies of “Thanks for reminding me!”

And that is why we did it. Because we knew if California Dems just voted, they would win easily. But they had to vote!

[BannonsLiver]

22. They're dooming about how angry Americans are or some such.

And how that’s bad for 2022.

[Kingofalldems]

23. Chuck Todd was all in on 'Democrats in disarray' about 15 minutes ago.

[Treefrog]

25. Still watching him huh?

[Kingofalldems]

28. WTF you laughing at?

Heard it on the radio.

Big loss for republicans and Trump in California. They really are at a loss, seem to be quite irritated today.

[Treefrog]

33. You.

[fescuerescue]

26. Probably happy and relieved that their warnings were heeded and the GOTV effort worked!

I remember shortly after 1/1/2000, lots and lots of people said "see you guys were crazy for working so hard on the Y2K problem. Nothing happened!"

yes. Nothing happened BECAUSE we worked so hard on the Y2K problem.

[Treefrog]

27. And I remember people here being lambasted for being worried about tfg in 2016.

I wasn’t a member then, and that’s one of the reasons I didn’t join. I couldnt believe how many Dems were castigated for their (obviously legitimate) worry at the time.

[LeftInTX]

29. It was based on the 2003 recall election that put Arnold Schwarznegger in as governor

CA is very blue, but special elections are all about turnout. If Democrats don't show up, as in 2003 they lose.

Happens around here: Blue districts turn red during special elections because Democrats don't show up.
And it is also about the crazy way the ballot was worded.

I'm glad that this worked out!

California did not want to boot Newsom, but were they doing to vote?
Some people don't vote because they think, "Newsom has got this"

[eissa]

34. Exactly, that was the fear many of us had

"Oh, come on, The Terminator could never be elected Governor!"
"No way will Hillary lose to trump - every poll shows her leading!"

Many of us were worried that the race would be closer than we thought, so yeah, I was one of those who was a bit fearful. I didn't think Newsom would lose, but I thought the results would be tighter and that it could possibly have ramifications for upcoming elections. I'm more than happy that I was wrong.

[StarfishSaver]

30. The same thing that often happens in these instances

Most are probably pleasantly surprised and grateful. Some are likely disappointed that their doomsday scenario didn't pan out. And a few insist on taking credit for the outcome because they're certain that only reason this turned out differently than they predicted was that their pessimistic prognostications spurred people into action and they won't even consider the possibility that they may have just been wrong.

[CrackityJones75]

35. For realz!

[Treefrog]

36. You must not remember the posters here worried that tfg would win in 2016.

They took a lot of crap.

But they were right.

[StarfishSaver]

37. I wasn't here then, but I know lots of people who felt that way

I was among those who felt that it wasn't a sure thing that he would win but that he definitely could.

But that turned out to be a very different situation than this.

[hlthe2b]

38. So apparently, Obama, Sanders, Warren, Pres. Biden, VP Harris, and all the others

who came to campaign and make videos for Newsom were just "overreacting," and naive' doomsayers, eh?

[StarfishSaver]

39. You didn't read my post, did you?

Had you actually read it rather than jumped in with your objections, you wouldn't have needed to ask this question. You would know that they probably fall in the first category of people who are pleasantly surprised and grateful that the worst case scenario didn't occur.

[hlthe2b]

40. Indeed I did--every word accusing other DUers.

You hold yourself out to be a Dem activist/ a former hill worker, yet you castigate those who worked to ensure the CA recall was unsuccessful--holding them with such contempt? Really?

Well, I was worried, so I did reach out to help make calls for CA Dems. Just as Harris, Obama, Biden, Warren and Sanders did. What did you do?

Call me a CA doomsayer. I lived through Bush* selection and the horrendous loss with John Kerry. I know what CAN happen.

[StarfishSaver]

44. You sure read an awful lot into a post that didn't say what you're accusing me of

[Sympthsical]

41. Or maybe the polls were really close, so people hit the alarm

Once those late July, early August polls came out, I saw a lot of previously unseen activity of people phone banking and canvassing. People freaked out, because they complacently thought there was no way. The polls shattered that complacency.

Why is this a bad thing all of a sudden? People saw a problem, raised awareness, and got it done.

The end.

This is like someone noting their shoe is untied, they bend down and tie it, then some chucklehead comes along afterwards, "Heh heh heh, the shoe was tied all along. You said the shoe was untied. Idiot!"

Unless the goal is to shit on fellow Democrats. Which happens a lot around here. "Democrats did a great job. Now, who in my party can I complain about in this . . ."

So helpful. So pro-Democratic. Not at all trying to stir shit and get some conflict going.

[hlthe2b]

43. Exactly.

[Kingofalldems]

45. I wasn't complaining about actual Democrats.

Notice the 'we'.

[Mad_Machine76]

42. Truth is

that the polls were looking a bit tight for awhile. Glad that Newsom actually out-performed the polling but he was able to widen his small lead as people came to realize just how wacky Elder was and how bad he would be for California, even if he only lasted in office for year.

[UnderThisLaw]

46. They've moved on

to telling us that democracy will end if General Milley isn’t arrested for treason

[Niagara]

47. Voter turnout was at a 20 year low in 2016.

90 million registered voters didn't vote. I'm not sure what the reasoning was, restrictive voter ID laws, couldn't get to the polls, not enough time for early voting, they simply didn't care, or whatever.



Even though I always vote, I thought that Hillary had the presidency in the bag. She didn't.



They already predicted a low voter turnout in California for the recall election. Kings County in CA had an historic low turnout. Again, I'm not sure what the reasoning is. Whatever the reasoning is, I would like to see it corrected.



https://hanfordsentinel.com/news/local/kings-county-headed-towards-historic-low-turnout/article_9e335981-4c4a-5772-b4fa-709ec07c7951.html



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/california-democrats-warn-of-low-turnout-in-recall-election/ar-AAMLkGR