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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Milley resigned it would take a huge meme weapon from the GOP. They really don't want him
to resign. They want him to be fired or stick around for the 22 elections. He will always be regarded by most Dems and the left as a hero so he has little to lose by resigning. I don't know his actual status but can he just retire?
Etherealoc1
(256 posts)Just heard on MTP that President
gave him his full support.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)make the best use of their positions.
Tetrachloride
(7,817 posts)1. Milley may have saved nuclear war.
therefore Milley is the top hero of the Trump years in that administration.
2. do not play the GOP tune.
3. Vote Blue No Matter Who
4. Frankly, i resent the calls for Milley to resign. Those are GOP talking points
Caliman73
(11,726 posts)We cannot give into their stupid, fake, cries of outrage.
Please remember that Nixon went behind LBJ's back and had the Vietnamese scuttle peace talks in 1968. Nixon extended the Vietnam War for another 5 years, to get elected. How many Americans and Vietnamese died in those 5 years?
Please remember that Reagan went behind Carter's back and made a deal with Iran to hold onto the American Hostages in Iran until after the election, to weaken Carter so Reagan could get elected. The deal included selling weapons to Iran, who was classified as a "State sponsor of Terrorism" and was explicitly forbidden to sell weapons to. Reagan used the proceeds of said illegal sales to fund right wing death squads in Nicaragua (Contras).
Right wingers have framed the narrative to paint themselves as strong in national defense, but have actually proven themselves to be willing to put Americans in danger and make deals with supposed "enemies" to further their own power. They have NO authority to talk about "treason" or anything of the sort, yet we give into the narrative by considering whether Milley should resign for using whatever appropriate authority to curtail the actions of a complete idiot, to do actual harm to the United States and to the world for the sake of retaining power that he lost through a legitimate democratic election.
We cannot continue to go with the narrative. Milley did nothing wrong here. TRUMP DID. THE REPUBLICANS DID. Just like they ALWAYS seem to do. They have the track record for being traitors, not Democrats, not career military, not the bureaucrats who help the country function despite changes in government. There is ONE identifiable variable that causes the problems in the US and that is Republican Conservatism.
crickets
(25,952 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,578 posts)If it happens, it will put me into a state of despair, more so than what I'm already in.
Wounded Bear
(58,604 posts)Calista241
(5,586 posts)And how he answers questions about what happened, and how much the Republicans freak out about this. I can envision a situation where Repubs demand his resignation or they will withhold votes for everything.
They could also start putting a Senator on the floor objecting to Unanimous Consent for everything. It would make VP Harris move into the Senate full time just to keep voting on moving anything forward. I don't think anyone here realizes how much of a threat revoking unanimous consent for literally everything is. The minority can literally shut down all order in the Senate given the proper motivation.
Biden may give him up depending on how volatile the reaction is to him.
Crunchy Frog
(26,578 posts)and would demonstrate to them that they can get anything that they demand, and that they can still act as the majority party, even when they're not.
They can and will use those techniques to get whatever they want whenever they want it, or when they just want to pull off a dominance display. Our side had better have some counter moves ready.
What you're describing is not something we can Neville Chamberlain our way out of.
The Magistrate
(95,243 posts)He can be counted on. Who knows about the next. Keep him as long as he wants to stay. Never give an inch to the red-hat maggots.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)denbot
(9,898 posts)Yeah, that's like talking about all the love at the capital on 1/6.
nuxvomica
(12,411 posts)They interceded to prevent Nixon from launching nukes when he was drunk and on his way out.
I hope that during the hearings, someone brings up the time Republican senators tried to quash Obama's agreement with Iran by communicating directly with Iran's leaders and telling them the agreement would be worthless.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/world/asia/white-house-faults-gop-senators-letter-to-irans-leaders.html
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)In the future, try to avoid making decisions based only on how the GOP will react... it gives them power they otherwise wouldn't have.
fishwax
(29,148 posts)Resigning as a result of this would support the republican notion that Milley was out of line, which would reinforce the republican BS that what happened on January 6th wasn't a huge deal, etc.
But it *was* a *huge* deal. It was an unprecedented attack on our democratic process, egged on and supported by a sitting president. And it was part of a larger project to undermine our democracy and democratic institutions in his attempt to hang onto power. It was not democracy as usual--it was an attack on democracy from within such as we haven't really seen in action on that scale. Milley swore an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Of course republicans are going to whine about Milley, because they want to pretend that trump wasn't really a threat.