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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis narrative that General Milley should resign or is a traitor is a wonderful distraction from
what happened January 6th, and that we almost lost our country
I think some fail to recognize the the lives of the Speaker, VP, and representatives and Senators were at real risk that day
The big take away from Woodwards book isnt that Milley tried to assure Chinese diplomats that the US government was stable, but that we came very close to losing it, and that the President of the United States was determined to subvert the results of the election
The complicity of trumps involvement in the insurrection is slowly being diminished with these types of distractions
The irony of those republicans spewing this nonsense at Milley, had no problem with Flynn, who actually did try to sell our country down the river, seems to get lost in the mist
Ohio Joe
(21,755 posts)Milley did his job in the face of a traitorous President.
JustAnotherGen
(31,820 posts)Especially now knowing that Trump actually tried to leave Afghanistan on January 15th and Milley stopped it.
Jan 6th, Shenanigans with Human Beings Lives abroad . . . That's all I care about.
Seems it is down where only the goats can get it.
JustAnotherGen
(31,820 posts)According to the book, one of Milleys calls took place on Oct. 30, 2020, four days before the election that unseated Trump, and the other on Jan. 8, 2021, two days after the Capitol siege carried out by Trump supporters in a quest to overturn the vote.
The first person to call it treason was Trump. . . Trump Lies
We absolutely do know that attacking China was on TFG's mind because once again . . . Trump Lies
If Biden is okay with the action to keep the WORLD safe - then I am.
JohnSJ
(92,190 posts)gab13by13
(21,333 posts)ShazzieB
(16,390 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,649 posts)when does the media get to 'boy who cried wolf' level realizations with trump accusations.
Grins
(7,217 posts)Milley didnt see this coming?
Im betting Esper did.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)after spending hours with their lives in danger, MOST ALL of the RepubliQans are STILL fighting to keep it silent - NO investigation - obstruction of the investigation - supporting the LIE!!!!!
How many of them would have had to die before they decided it REALLY WAS AN INSURRECTION?
Irish_Dem
(47,036 posts)to the insurrectionists to leave them alone.
If you look at some of the pictures the Dems were clearly afraid while the GOPers were laughing and smiling.
But yes, despite what they naively believed the GOPers were not in danger. This thing could have become much worse than expected. Once you have an armed mob, anything can happen.
JohnSJ
(92,190 posts)no doubt about that
Irish_Dem
(47,036 posts)The GOP leaders were fine with that.
GoodRaisin
(8,922 posts)if it means keeping their own jobs.
TheRealNorth
(9,478 posts)Imagine how many eyeballs a war with China would have drawn....
FalloutShelter
(11,861 posts)To broadcast from of LA, Chicago, and NYC were smoking radioactive craters.
mackdaddy
(1,527 posts)Trump was, and to some extent through his adherents still is, a real danger to the world.
The PRESIDENT was dangerously insane, and none of those around him would do what really needed to be done and remove him through the cabinet action.
Trump's insanity and his enablers was the REAL problem.
JohnSJ
(92,190 posts)real danger to the country because of his influence of his cult followers
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)niyad
(113,302 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)pie hole and hope they do the trick.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)The people who need to stay on top of this - Congressional committees, federal and state prosecutors and investigators, plaintiffs in numerous lawsuits, etc. - aren't distracted and are going right on about their business working to get to the bottom of this.
And the general public may be distracted and ready to think about other things, but this isn't going away. It will come back and be a big deal to them again.
ShazzieB
(16,390 posts)Kota
(901 posts)They found something to shout over the real story, again....
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)There can be NO DOUBT!!!!!
Kota
(901 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)but he also now has fewer constraints on him regarding the office. He can say any bat-shit crazy thing he wants and there's no Congress or Supreme Court to shut him up - but a gazillion MAGAnauts ready to follow him to the gates of Hell!
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)nuclear codes back to this MFer.
panader0
(25,816 posts)was when he walked with trump to the church near the WH so trump could hold a Bible for a photo op.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)he (Milley) regrets that and believes he was misled and used in that instance.
ShazzieB
(16,390 posts)Didn't he say so himself? That's what I remember reading at the time, but I don't know if that was an actual quote to a reporter or a leak of some sort.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)He and Mark Esper were called to the WH. They didnt know why. Trump was bloviating in the Rose Garden, and when he finished he told them to walk with him. Milley thought it was to look at the security around Lafayette Park, but when he saw why, he broke away and went over to talk to some National Guard members because he did not want to be seen with Trump in this situation. Later, he said Trump would never do this to him again.
This was discussed both in Frankly, We Did Win This Election and I Alone Can Fix It.
Milley did nothing wrong in dealing with China. Who really knows what that crazy motherfucker Trump would have done?
Lonestarblue
(9,986 posts)You can lie about big and small things, and there are no consequences.
You can commit crimes, like obstructing justice, and there are no consequences.
You can commit insurrection and there are no consequences, except to the foot soldiers doing the dirty work.
You can continue the grift with your supporters to raise money for legal fees related to the election, which you then spend on yourself, and theyre too clueless to catch on to the grift.
You can blame liberals and Democrats for every bad thing possible, and the Trump base will believe you.
Aided by the media, Republicans never seem to reap consequences for their actions.
TheRealNorth
(9,478 posts)When your electorate supports you as you trample on Democracy, there is no price to pay so long as you maintain enough support to not lock yourself out of power.
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)they always do reap rewards for their actions and never seem to suffer any consequences for their actions.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)However, the good General Milley needs to be investigated and held to account (and pardoned, if need be).
It is about restoring the law and civilian control of our military. Our side needs to ALWAYS be on the side of the law. Their side will not be...ever.
The commission will continue its work.
Just my two cents.
Cheers!
Auggie
(31,169 posts)distract, disrupt, deceive, digress, and lie your pants off.