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stollen

(419 posts)
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 03:11 PM Sep 2021

Why couldn't Michigan State find a female doctor for its female gymnastics program?

I'm an MSU graduate and get many email requests for money despite my having put these emails in the spam file numerous times. I'm not going to contribute to a university that harbors pedophiles. I would no more give money to MSU than I would Ohio State University. But it makes no sense to me that female doctors are not assigned to female sports programs.

The same goes for the FBI. Why aren't female agents assigned to cases of female sexual abuse, exclusively?

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Why couldn't Michigan State find a female doctor for its female gymnastics program? (Original Post) stollen Sep 2021 OP
Well, then you wouldn't be able to have the man explain to you why onecaliberal Sep 2021 #1
Oh, boom. Treefrog Sep 2021 #10
Institutional inertia. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #2
More like institutional patriarchy. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #3
and why markie Sep 2021 #4
Ding Ding Ding MiniMe Sep 2021 #17
Same Questions Here ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #5
This is why. Thanks. .."highly likely they'd be more prone to take it seriously" Budi Sep 2021 #6
Jury studies suggest not dsc Sep 2021 #8
I Hadn't Heard That ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #13
I ck'd & you're right!! Duppers Sep 2021 #21
Should people be hired based on gender? Mosby Sep 2021 #7
Are actors ever hired due to gender? LanternWaste Sep 2021 #19
Is there some reason to have two doctors? FBaggins Sep 2021 #9
Let's face facts. Treefrog Sep 2021 #11
So? You can't hire on that basis FBaggins Sep 2021 #12
Disagree Partially ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #14
Why yes... There is Ohio Joe Sep 2021 #20
Frankly, I think the men in charge-- viva la Sep 2021 #15
Maybe the amount of women going into sports medicine. haele Sep 2021 #16
Amen sister Hekate Sep 2021 #18
Predators come in all genders. You need a chaperone... elias7 Sep 2021 #22

MiniMe

(21,709 posts)
17. Ding Ding Ding
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 06:02 PM
Sep 2021

It cracks me up when Abbott is sitting down signing a law about abortion surrounded by only men. Grrrr

ProfessorGAC

(64,861 posts)
5. Same Questions Here
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 03:17 PM
Sep 2021

I've wondered the same since I first heard about this.
And, your question about the FBI applies to all law enforcement.
We often criticize police departments when their demographics don't nearly reflect those of the community.
Why wouldn't women LEO be preferentially tasked with investigating crimes against women? I think it highly likely they'd be more prone to take it seriously.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
6. This is why. Thanks. .."highly likely they'd be more prone to take it seriously"
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 03:21 PM
Sep 2021
"I think it highly likely they'd be more prone to take it seriously."

👍

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
21. I ck'd & you're right!!
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:52 PM
Sep 2021

Just WOW!!

I thought my very religious, RW mother was an anomaly. She was rarely sympathetic to women on any issue.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
19. Are actors ever hired due to gender?
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 06:17 PM
Sep 2021

(kinda show the flaw in adhering to absolutism in any one thing)

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
9. Is there some reason to have two doctors?
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 03:26 PM
Sep 2021

Would you ask why there wasn't a male doctor for the male gymnastics program if the school had only a female doctor?

Perfectly reasonable to ask "did you have to hire a predator???" - but no reason that a sports physician for a school can't be male just because he would have female patients.

ProfessorGAC

(64,861 posts)
14. Disagree Partially
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 03:39 PM
Sep 2021

Agree in principle, but were talking about a giant university with a massive athletic department.
Having 2 doctors, one for male athletes, another for females seems a reasonable alternative.
But, you're right.
It clearly seems Nasser wasn't adequately vetted. There's an overall failure that a single swap wouldn't fix.

viva la

(3,273 posts)
15. Frankly, I think the men in charge--
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 03:52 PM
Sep 2021

got a vicarious thrill thinking of a male doctor manipulating the bodies of young girls.

Yeah. I really sense that-- and that's why they ignored all the complaints, because they were getting excited by it.

haele

(12,640 posts)
16. Maybe the amount of women going into sports medicine.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 04:31 PM
Sep 2021

The need for sports medicine MDs isn't as great as other medical specialties, and many doctors feel it isn't as important as a generalist or other specialists. And Im not sure most universities consider the "Team Doctor" a position much greater than the school nurse outside the high dollar college sports (Football, Basketball); team doctors probably are managing several different University teams across genders, instead of just "Men's Track" or "Women's Volleyball".

As for investigative work, there's always been a problem dealing with gender - both when dealing with gender based crime and gender of investigator. In the bad old days, segregated investigative work where women were typically assigned to handled crimes involving women, there was always a gender gap in pay and advancement - and respect for the job they did.

I don't want to see policing - or any career - go back to those days. What I do want to see is better hiring to screen out the jerks and bullies so that job policies and customers/clients are handled equally no matter economic class, gender, or race of the individual or incident being served.

Haele

elias7

(3,991 posts)
22. Predators come in all genders. You need a chaperone...
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 11:46 PM
Sep 2021

It’s not a matter of a male or a female doctor, it’s that there needs to be a chaperone in such circumstances. A doctor would never do a pelvic exam on a female patient without a nurse present as witness and chaperone. That should have been protocol with children.

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