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Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 05:23 PM Sep 2021

Why did Trump try to steal election? & Why was he behind Jan 6 insurrection? Simple Answer:

...Because he knew he could try to do these events...without any consequences or penalties..That is he could
try and if he failed he would .....get away with what happened and the "try." Does he still get speaking fees?
Is he still interviewed. Does he have rallies? Large crowds cheering him? etc. etc. etc.

Well.......Was Trump right on this? Will there be some kind of penalty? (any kind?)
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Why did Trump try to steal election? & Why was he behind Jan 6 insurrection? Simple Answer: (Original Post) Stuart G Sep 2021 OP
Nope! blueinredohio Sep 2021 #1
no reason NJCher Sep 2021 #2
Yep JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #3
I hope you are correct. Donald Trump belongs in jail..not making huge amounts of money at rallies. Stuart G Sep 2021 #5
Is he holding huge rallies anymore? Maybe one or two... brush Sep 2021 #44
I think like you do, I really dislike the defeatist argument that he will get away with murder. Escurumbele Sep 2021 #19
Agree. wnylib Sep 2021 #27
he's hold up in his dump's & he don't know when the fed's are coming & no control ! monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #42
Two words, "No control"...say it all...When the feds get him is up to someone else. Stuart G Sep 2021 #47
Kingofalldems just posted this JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #4
What "Big Fish" are likely to cooperate and turn against Trump. Cohen already has. Stuart G Sep 2021 #7
I don't know JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #10
I'm all for "Cruelty is the Point" pain too Bettie Sep 2021 #17
I agree with your view wnylib Sep 2021 #30
trump just dropped a turd the size of king kong ! bye donny ! monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #43
There will be consequences malaise Sep 2021 #6
I hope you are correct...grave and serious consequences. I think that when all the proof comes out, Stuart G Sep 2021 #9
So do I. The consequences will come wnylib Sep 2021 #32
Many will fall before malaise Sep 2021 #37
I will cheer the fall of every one of them. wnylib Sep 2021 #38
an rodger just got subpoena today ! hitting the fan ! monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #48
A 7 decade crime spree with no consequences... lame54 Sep 2021 #8
Exactly, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #18
He might or might not see jail time, wnylib Sep 2021 #35
His worst character flaw is his lack of understanding that actions have consequences, that is why. Escurumbele Sep 2021 #22
When its ready...not when the blogosphere demands it. brooklynite Sep 2021 #11
Yes, I hope you are correct...plenty of consequences...& what will insure them...? Answer: Stuart G Sep 2021 #14
I believe that after last night Cali Blowout ... doublethink Sep 2021 #12
Cali Blowout? Could you please explain what you mean? Thank You..I don't know.. Stuart G Sep 2021 #16
The election yesterday in California leftieNanner Sep 2021 #24
I think the reference is to the recall election last night. Tomconroy Sep 2021 #25
The Pig wants to be America's strongman, that power and position... Thomas Hurt Sep 2021 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #34
K&R Blue Owl Sep 2021 #15
Well babies and candy are no longer whistler162 Sep 2021 #20
Zero BlueJac Sep 2021 #21
"Trump will be Trump!" budkin Sep 2021 #23
It doesn't surprise me that he has dodged the law and the courts Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #26
I've wondered about that, too. wnylib Sep 2021 #36
No way. kairos12 Sep 2021 #28
Only Karma knows for sure. dchill Sep 2021 #29
Sorry, tRump proves there's no such thing... Duppers Sep 2021 #31
'Why did Trump try to steal election? & Why was he behind Jan 6 insurrection?" Jarqui Sep 2021 #33
This! N/t Retired Engineer Bob Sep 2021 #45
He did because he had nothing to loose. Bluethroughu Sep 2021 #39
He has a whole lot to loose...and that will take...TIME... Stuart G Sep 2021 #41
I hope you are right, Bluethroughu Sep 2021 #53
There may be consequences ... Straw Man Sep 2021 #40
Republicans literally get away with murder! mountain grammy Sep 2021 #46
One more idea about the final end of Donald Trump...about the FBI...What the FBI is outstanding and Stuart G Sep 2021 #49
This defeatist attitude, that Trump will never pay for his crimes is wrong Ligyron Sep 2021 #50
Because Corgigal Sep 2021 #51
I can't figure out why Trump would try to steal the election sarisataka Sep 2021 #52

NJCher

(35,659 posts)
2. no reason
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 05:28 PM
Sep 2021

someone else will definitely try it, then.

I guess trump will set the model for a new type of presidency.

JustAnotherGen

(31,816 posts)
3. Yep
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 05:28 PM
Sep 2021

There will be.

A day or two ago the FBI seized the phone of Kellye SoRelle - a Lawyers for Trump volunteer and the attorney for one of the white supremacist groups involved in 1/6. "Seditious Conspiracy".


I seriously have a great deal of faith in Merrick Garland's capabilities. We have gotten so used to AG's that are all about self-promotion and aggrandizement that we have forgotten what happens when one keeps their head down, does their job, leads their team . . .

And gets the American people results.

Why should the Justice Department tip off the scumbag traitor trump?

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
19. I think like you do, I really dislike the defeatist argument that he will get away with murder.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 06:39 PM
Sep 2021

He will pay.

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
47. Two words, "No control"...say it all...When the feds get him is up to someone else.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:56 PM
Sep 2021

And the Feds will get Donald Trump...Time...is what will tell...not if, but when absolute proof is obtained..

JustAnotherGen

(31,816 posts)
10. I don't know
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 05:36 PM
Sep 2021

But my husband and I have a bet going about Ivanka and Jared.

He thinks Jared flipped on Trump - and I think Ivanka flipped on Jared to save her ass and her dad's. He 'just' a husband - those trumps are thick as thieves.

Again - just speculation.

But I think the core democratic party base is blood thirsty (black women - count me as one) and I want 'cruelty is the point' pain inflicted on that entire family, McCarthy, Jordan, Gaetz, Bobo, MTG, etc. etc.. Preferably next August - in time for the midterms.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
17. I'm all for "Cruelty is the Point" pain too
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 06:22 PM
Sep 2021

and I'm an older white lady.

Fact is the only way this doesn't happen again is if there are consequences. Not "slap on the wrist, you're a naughty boy" consequences, but real world consequences that have a real impact on these people.

I wish I believed that it would happen. I really do.

ON the other hand, if it does, I get to be super happily surprised!

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
30. I agree with your view
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:26 PM
Sep 2021

that Ivanka is more likely to flip on Jared than the idea that Jared would flip on Trump. I don't know that any of them have flipped, but if so, that's the more likely case.

Does your husband say what would motivate Jared to flip? He'd lose a lot if he did - wife, kids, grifting opportunities - and would need protection from retaliation.

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
9. I hope you are correct...grave and serious consequences. I think that when all the proof comes out,
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 05:36 PM
Sep 2021

we will find that Trump had a great deal of planning in the Jan 6 event. Why?...Because he felt he and his family
would ...."get away with it." (I don't think Trump cares about anyone else)

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
32. So do I. The consequences will come
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:30 PM
Sep 2021

more slowly than most of us, myself included, would want, but they will come.

I just hope the consequences extend beyond the Trump crime family. I'd like to see all of their collaborators and accomplices topple like a row of dominoes.

lame54

(35,287 posts)
8. A 7 decade crime spree with no consequences...
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 05:36 PM
Sep 2021

At this point why would he think he would ever have to

gab13by13

(21,319 posts)
18. Exactly,
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 06:36 PM
Sep 2021

Trump broke the law before he was president, then when he became president he knew he was above the law when he said he could kill someone and get away with it. He scoffed at norms that past presidents followed; didn't release his taxes, didn't divest his financial interests.

Trump will never see jail time.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
35. He might or might not see jail time,
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:32 PM
Sep 2021

but I believe that he and his scams and schemes will be destroyed.

Escurumbele

(3,389 posts)
22. His worst character flaw is his lack of understanding that actions have consequences, that is why.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 06:46 PM
Sep 2021

His daddy always got him out of every mess he ever got into, his daddy knew he was extremely incompetent, but he was his preferred child because he was as evil as he, so trump-the-buffoon grew up in this fantasy world where he never suffered consequences. His dad, and Roy Cohn taught him how to circumvent the law, how to cheat, which already was a natural attribute in his flawed character. He has never had to suffer consequences, but he now got into something that was not his turf, and that is why this time I am convinced that he will pay because all those on top understand that if he doesn't pay Democracy will suffer, and that is too high a price to pay to let an odious character get away with all his crimes.

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
14. Yes, I hope you are correct...plenty of consequences...& what will insure them...? Answer:
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 05:46 PM
Sep 2021

Proof that Donald Trump was behind some or all of what happened January 6..(with the help of his team )
....Yes, when that solid proof emerges, then, perhaps, there will be great consequences...You know...and I
must admit that the FBI is very good at getting proof of criminal intent ...Is that correct?...They are among
the best if not the VERY BEST!

doublethink

(6,823 posts)
12. I believe that after last night Cali Blowout ...
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 05:40 PM
Sep 2021

yes the law will catch up with him and his accomplices. I really can't explain it in a few words here on DU. But yeah ... I think we have had enough. It's like a 'virus' ha ... like I said stay soon and we shall see ...

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
13. The Pig wants to be America's strongman, that power and position...
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 05:41 PM
Sep 2021

is the next level to feed his malignant narcissism.

Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #13)

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
20. Well babies and candy are no longer
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 06:41 PM
Sep 2021

a thing. So he couldn't steal the candy so he decided on stealing something else.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
26. It doesn't surprise me that he has dodged the law and the courts
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 06:56 PM
Sep 2021

all his life. Lots of people do that. It does surprise me that by this time , with all the shady foreign and domestic organized crime types he had dealt with and certainly at times not held up his end of the deal. someone hasn't just beaten the living shit out of him or tossed him out of a 20th story window.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
36. I've wondered about that, too.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:39 PM
Sep 2021

He has made enough enemies that I'd think someone would have been angry enough to go after him. But then, who would risk going after a mob type character other than another mobster?

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
31. Sorry, tRump proves there's no such thing...
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:28 PM
Sep 2021

As karma.


(I know a few cruel people who have died relatively happy too.)

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
33. 'Why did Trump try to steal election? & Why was he behind Jan 6 insurrection?"
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:30 PM
Sep 2021

Simpler answer:

Because if he was successful, he could thwart any attempts to come at him for criminal actions using the Oval office to shield him until the statute of limitations ran out.

Things happen for a reason.

Bluethroughu

(5,153 posts)
39. He did because he had nothing to loose.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:43 PM
Sep 2021

In fact he has gained, this is why the GOP follow his orders. They are not afraid of him, they worship him and everything he stands for, he just has the balls to say and do what they are thinking.

We have a big problem if this insurrection does not out these treasonist SOBs behind bars, and I mean all of them including the financiers.

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
41. He has a whole lot to loose...and that will take...TIME...
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:45 PM
Sep 2021

....I believe that in "TIME" no building will be named after him..
....Donald Trump will become a recluse like Nixon was.
....Donald Trump will lose his fortune..
...Donald Trump will be charged with some crimes..
...and more....a whole lot more..The FBI needs "TIME"

......Donald Trump's downfall will make Nixon's seem like a cake walk, or a 1/4 mile walk through your local park...

....and The FBI will get Trump...Donald Trump is the biggest crook around..

Straw Man

(6,623 posts)
40. There may be consequences ...
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:45 PM
Sep 2021

... but I have my doubts that they will be sufficiently severe. To me, it wouldn't be enough for him to die broke. I'd like to see him die behind bars, preferably after being there for a long, long time.

No, I'm not one of those "kinder, gentler" Democrats. The man is a blight on our society, and is responsible for death and misery on a massive scale.

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
49. One more idea about the final end of Donald Trump...about the FBI...What the FBI is outstanding and
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:08 PM
Sep 2021

superior at: is getting those ...down below...to testify against the big bosses (those above)

So, if you don't think that the FBI is currently working on that one, you are entirely wrong...So, Giuliani gets a break
to testify against Trump..or maybe someone else...Maybe... whoever you can imagine....The FBI is great at getting
the lowers to testify against the bosses...just wait and see...We will see it all...Yes, we will...

.....We ain't seen all of it ...the "best is yet to come" can you imagine who?...hint...does Donald Trump have...
.....children?.
..Were they or individual children involved? Would the FBI go after children to get the big boss?
How about the former mayor of New York.?

.............................Well that last two: former Mayor of New York, and children......................
...................if you don't know the answer, you don't know how the FBI works...

Ligyron

(7,629 posts)
50. This defeatist attitude, that Trump will never pay for his crimes is wrong
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:50 PM
Sep 2021

If one was a suspicious person and didn’t know any better, one might think there were a few trolls loose in here.

A defeatist attitude only benefits Trump and the Republican party. They’d love to spread negativity and hopefully some contagious apathy throughout the Democratic Party and Independents in the hopes that some will just give up and won’t vote.

The only way he won’t pay for his crimes is if he’s reelected somehow.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
51. Because
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:55 PM
Sep 2021

he couldn’t leave the White House. He knows what he did, when everything failed, he threw the sink . He always thought he had the tough guys, even all the police. He might have had too many, but not enough, and why he allowed the fighting to continue for hours. He tried to steal it every way possible, not to serve this country, but to hide all his corruption.

sarisataka

(18,621 posts)
52. I can't figure out why Trump would try to steal the election
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:59 PM
Sep 2021

I know I read over 1461 times he was going to resign. Mostly because he never really wanted to be president

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