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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think there is some hope on the horizon regarding the filibuster
There seems to be a growing but still subdued buzz about some sort of changes or carve-out or suspension of the rules to allow for voter laws that will undue the GOPoison that has been put into law.
The latest I heard was just a few minutes ago when Angus King spoke about it on MSNBC.
I am now speculating: Manchin has found there is not a snowball's chance in hell of anything passing with GOPoison votes.
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I think there is some hope on the horizon regarding the filibuster (Original Post)
Stinky The Clown
Sep 2021
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elleng
(130,732 posts)1. Good, thanks, tho tired of speculation.
May visit Maine in a few weeks, for vacation, so might listen for scuttlebutt on King; assuming adoring murmurs about Whitehouse.
Walleye
(30,977 posts)2. They shouldn't worry about precedent.GOP doesn't pass voting rights laws
FBaggins
(26,721 posts)3. Has something changed in the last day or two?
In the face of the GOP opposition, liberals have pushed Manchin to agree to a carveout and allow for a change to Senate rules so such voting legislation can advance with a simple majority of 51 votes. But Manchin, along with a handful of other Democrats, has long opposed such a carveout, worrying it would lead to a slippery slope and ultimately kill a tool meant to protect the minority partys rights.
The filibuster is permanent, Manchin said Monday.
Asked how he plans to get the bill passed given that he wont change Senate filibuster rules, Manchin told CNN on Tuesday that his plan is this: Its to get 10 Republicans in the 50-50 Senate.
Im talking to reasonable Republicans and friends of mine who understand we need guardrails, Manchin said.
https://kesq.com/news/national-politics/cnn-us-politics/2021/09/14/democrats-cut-deal-with-manchin-to-get-party-behind-long-shot-voting-overhaul-bill/
The filibuster is permanent, Manchin said Monday.
Asked how he plans to get the bill passed given that he wont change Senate filibuster rules, Manchin told CNN on Tuesday that his plan is this: Its to get 10 Republicans in the 50-50 Senate.
Im talking to reasonable Republicans and friends of mine who understand we need guardrails, Manchin said.
https://kesq.com/news/national-politics/cnn-us-politics/2021/09/14/democrats-cut-deal-with-manchin-to-get-party-behind-long-shot-voting-overhaul-bill/
There has been this ongoing dream that if we come up with a version of voting legislation that Manchin firmly supports but Republicans continue to reject... that he will see the error of his ways and give up on bipartisanship. I've seen no indication of this, or even that he believes that "bipartisanship" occurs excusively when enough republicans sign on to one of our priorities.
PortTack
(32,705 posts)4. Biden publicly told Schumer he would be for changing the filibuster to pass voting rights
druidity33
(6,444 posts)5. I want summa what yer smokin'...
seriously. What you are seeing is chatter and trial balloons. Unfortunately the Filibuster is going nowhere.