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sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:35 PM Sep 2021

The FBI has a Woman Problem.

Last edited Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:04 PM - Edit history (1)

A woman problem, a rape and abuse problem as they sweep it under the rug.

They are male dominated and they failed Christine Blasey Ford and failed the brave Olympic women that testified today. Their testimony was heartbreaking and the tears followed, not just them but every woman that has experienced abuse and that those that say, it could have been me.

Ford's testimony was never fully investigated, hundreds of leads ignored. Guess they made their decision, perhaps on their own or with WH pressure. She was called a liar so that a guilty man could be purchased, all debts cleared, to sit on SCOTUS to rule on women's bodies.

The Olympic women, they were very young girls, years of child abuse that was ignored, pushed aside and hidden. Aly Raisnnan said that it is something that they would live with for the rest of their lives, they all will. She said that she was exhausted, has been for years and there are times that she gets in the shower to wash her hair and has to sit on the floor of the shower to do so. There are times she can't take a 10 minute walk without utter despairing exhaustion. This is/was an olympic gold medal woman. Over two hundred complaints, mostly unrecognized.

Two hundred. We have once again let our women and girls down.

It needs to stop.

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The FBI has a Woman Problem. (Original Post) sheshe2 Sep 2021 OP
The world has a woman problem. Men are in charge. nt joetheman Sep 2021 #1
Yes. sheshe2 Sep 2021 #2
Yep Bettie Sep 2021 #7
THIS malaise Sep 2021 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #3
You might be surprised by how many soldierant Sep 2021 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #30
The FBI Exists To Keep Billionaires And Predators Safe DanieRains Sep 2021 #4
You may have just opened the door. Send to Rachel, Joy Reid and Chris Hayes? Can't hurt. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #19
Pretty much how J Edgar Hoover set it up Captain Zero Sep 2021 #22
I'm afraid you're correct questionseverything Sep 2021 #25
Men need to be held accountable I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2021 #5
I'm sorry you had to go through that and that the system failed you. Ligyron Sep 2021 #24
The thing that really sucks about PTSD I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2021 #39
The testimony today was shocking mcar Sep 2021 #6
Joe needs to clean house! SheltieLover Sep 2021 #8
Appoint a woman director of the FBI. It's time. Captain Zero Sep 2021 #23
Sounds great to me! SheltieLover Sep 2021 #32
Chris Wray needs to find another job, he's incompetent. n/t SheilaAnn Sep 2021 #31
Imho, he is far sorse than incompetent. SheltieLover Sep 2021 #33
There are so many problems in so many areas with this. Why was a man involved in the examination of JohnSJ Sep 2021 #9
The young girls were not just questioned by a male agent... sheshe2 Sep 2021 #10
I thought they named agent Jay Abbott and agent Michael Langeman who interviewed JohnSJ Sep 2021 #27
Yes. sheshe2 Sep 2021 #36
Got it. Everything about this makes me sick JohnSJ Sep 2021 #38
What I saw made me tear up. sheshe2 Sep 2021 #42
Yes JohnSJ Sep 2021 #44
If a mature male is convicted of sexual abuse, rape, or any other like charge against a minor female Enter stage left Sep 2021 #11
The FBI has a sexism problem. ancianita Sep 2021 #12
That is my take as well. kairos12 Sep 2021 #13
It sounds like the FBI needs more women in the organization in general. n/t forgotmylogin Sep 2021 #14
It's a start but it's not the silver bullet that will solve the larger structural problem. ancianita Sep 2021 #16
Misogyny runs deep in our country dlk Sep 2021 #15
Women are awake. sheshe2 Sep 2021 #17
Exactly right! Nt spooky3 Sep 2021 #20
I hope women are awake dlk Sep 2021 #21
Ford and our athletes did just that. sheshe2 Sep 2021 #37
Sounds Like A Gym Jordon Investigation n/t DallasNE Sep 2021 #18
The carceral state has an accountability problem and it has never prioritized justice for those WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #26
More people than the FBI are to blame, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #34
Of course. sheshe2 Sep 2021 #40
There are words, but most of them would net me a visit from these predator enablers. niyad Sep 2021 #35
Hugs sheshe2 Sep 2021 #41
Hugs back. niyad Sep 2021 #45
You are SO VERY RIGHT. K&R Stinky The Clown Sep 2021 #43

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

soldierant

(6,846 posts)
29. You might be surprised by how many
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:52 PM
Sep 2021

veterans, including Afhanistan and Iraq vets are or lean Democratic.

Heere's just one:

Response to soldierant (Reply #29)

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
4. The FBI Exists To Keep Billionaires And Predators Safe
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:52 PM
Sep 2021

Am I the only one to notice this?

FBI interviewed 60 Epstein witnesses and sealed the files.

Sealed.

FBI couldn't find any laws broken by anyone working for the 7 largest banks in 2008.

The FBI is the mafia.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
19. You may have just opened the door. Send to Rachel, Joy Reid and Chris Hayes? Can't hurt.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:57 PM
Sep 2021

I am not a conspiracy person, but what if even part of what you say is true? Comey, Wray, Rosenstein minimally dropped the ball in the last 4 years and cast huge doubts on their ability to administer justice, partly based on their party affiliation and actions taken (or not taken) during the Orange One's term. And will we ever see an un-redacted Mueller report?? I am losing faith.

questionseverything

(9,646 posts)
25. I'm afraid you're correct
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:30 PM
Sep 2021

It doesn’t seem to matter wether it’s democrats or republicans in the White House either

The gymnastics serial rapists were reported in 2015 when obama was in charge

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
5. Men need to be held accountable
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 07:54 PM
Sep 2021

And if they use thier dick as a weapon,disarm them and cut it off.


I have trauma because
Of evil men and the rage comes flooding back,the fear and helplessness.

When I was in a psych ward I got raped by another patient.

My therapist at the hospital,who years earlier diagnosed my trauma disorders was another male asshole covering his ass . He told me me I wanted it. I just about exploded all I managed to say was how could you say that,before I walked out and slammed the door in his face.

He said that after I had a horrible safe test done by a lady cop because I pressed charges. My life was in chaos at the time,I never knew if he was locked up in jail or not.

But what my ex therapist said to me is unforgivable.

Yet some men bad men would tell me the same thing.

Men like that need to feel what rape is like themselves and women tell him he asked for it. I bet his whining would be heard for miles.

He needs to lose his lisence to practice therapy.

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
24. I'm sorry you had to go through that and that the system failed you.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:28 PM
Sep 2021

Every female I’ve been close friends or intimate with has a sexual assault story, some much worse than others. Every.last.one.of.them.

I can’t even imagine. I mean, I’ve been hit on by other males throughout my life but these were easy to just laugh off and I rather took it as a compliment. I suppose I’m lucky in that I don’t make anything close to a good victim.

But if I were somehow, i’d do everything within my power to not let that scum live in my head rent free.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
39. The thing that really sucks about PTSD
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 10:44 PM
Sep 2021

Is you could be fine not thinking about it at all then something that seems totally not related to it triggers you and you are right back there in milliseconds. It takes a lot of therapy to find out what caused the trigger because when you are going through a trigger or flashback most likely what started it has been forgotten in the emotional crisis.

I don't think about it willingly unless I am in therapy,but it sucks that your body remembers what you'd rather forget.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
33. Imho, he is far sorse than incompetent.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:58 PM
Sep 2021

Should have been gone long ago, imo.

But I trust Joe's judgment, so there is that.

JohnSJ

(92,116 posts)
9. There are so many problems in so many areas with this. Why was a man involved in the examination of
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:08 PM
Sep 2021

these girls? Who on the Olympic Committee allowed that, and then ignored the victim’s pleas for help

Then to make maters worse when the FBI got involved, why was a man in the FBI involved in the questioning of these girls asking them intimate questions about the abuse, and then their complaints ignored by the FBI

They were abused by nassar, the Olympic committee, and the FBI, and a lot of people need to be held accountable for what happened to these girls




sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
10. The young girls were not just questioned by a male agent...
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:20 PM
Sep 2021

They questioned them for hours in a hotel room. Rather intimidating for any abused woman to have to deal with that.

JohnSJ

(92,116 posts)
27. I thought they named agent Jay Abbott and agent Michael Langeman who interviewed
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:41 PM
Sep 2021

gymnast McKayla Maroney, and then those agents lied about their accusations




sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
36. Yes.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 10:22 PM
Sep 2021

I read that as well.

I can't express how angry I am. No lawyer or family present. I don't know her age when she interviewed, yet she had to be pretty young.

I was just speaking about Aya's statement.

sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
42. What I saw made me tear up.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 11:00 PM
Sep 2021

I had to miss a lot of it, mom comes first. I had just started watching Bile's statement and she was crying. Such strong women. They are, crying isn't weakness it is a way to cleanse the dirt that someone covered them with.

Enter stage left

(3,395 posts)
11. If a mature male is convicted of sexual abuse, rape, or any other like charge against a minor female
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:22 PM
Sep 2021

I'm dead set AGAINST the death penalty...


BUT DEAD SET FOR CASTRATION!

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
12. The FBI has a sexism problem.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:26 PM
Sep 2021

Rule of Law enforcement has been a constitutional problem since the nation's founding.

52% of this nation has an ERA problem.

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
16. It's a start but it's not the silver bullet that will solve the larger structural problem.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:47 PM
Sep 2021

The FBI is already 44% female.

Sexism is just one branch of patriarchal order.
Sexism rationalizes and justifies patriarchal norms which allow for unequal treatment of male-defined unequals.
What the FBI did is a passive form of misogyny, the branch of patriarchy that polices and enforces patriarchal norms, since it actually ignored women's claims, which is a form of sexist norm enforcement that presumes that enforcers have the option of taking or not taking seriously the harm claims of unequals.

Wray can "protest too much," and fire someone, but he won't end male prerogratives to do "mandated reporting," even though mandatory reporting is the law across 50 states. Sexism often attempts to make patriarchal social arrangements seem natural, good, or inevitable so that there appears to be no reason to resist them, and no reason to use rule of law.

Then when the sexist harm becomes too great, this is the kind of structurally embedded sexism that says, "Oh no! Those women were harmed? Oh, we will police ourselves right away! We got this, carry on."

dlk

(11,541 posts)
15. Misogyny runs deep in our country
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 08:38 PM
Sep 2021

Until enough women wake up and unite to take significant action, nothing much will change. Too many men like things just the way they are.

dlk

(11,541 posts)
21. I hope women are awake
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:12 PM
Sep 2021

In addition to being awake, we need women taking action. Men can keep up or take notes.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,316 posts)
26. The carceral state has an accountability problem and it has never prioritized justice for those
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 09:35 PM
Sep 2021

who are marginalized.

gab13by13

(21,292 posts)
34. More people than the FBI are to blame,
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 10:13 PM
Sep 2021

but they are to blame. Michigan State covered it up, Olympic committees and others covered it up.

The Republican governor of Pa. slow walked investigating Sandusky, assigned 1 rookie state cop with just a desk. At least people went to jail at Penn State and the NCAA punished them. Penn State had to provide millions of dollars to abused children's organizations, not that money fixed what was done. tO$U and Michigan State got a free pass.

sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
40. Of course.
Wed Sep 15, 2021, 10:49 PM
Sep 2021

Many agencies are to blame for passing the buck back and forth, that was mentioned in the Judiciary hearing today.

However The FEDERAL Bureau is the highest ranking office that was leading the investigations. FEDERAL and they failed all these women/girls in every way. They actually LIED about what was said in the interviews. They lied! Bet they chuckled and said the girls were just PMSing, if they were even old enough at the time to be menstruating at the time.

What happened in Penn State was horrifying, yet the OP is about Ford and the Olympic athletes that testified today. All abuse is wrong, yet this OP is about the women that have received no justice other than Nassar jailed. It took 18 years to put him away.That was just a start. Nothing has been done to protect future athletes.

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