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RandySF

(58,913 posts)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:58 AM Oct 2012

Carville, Greenberg Say Obama Economy Message Is Working

Democracy Corps conducted web surveys this week to test the effectiveness of two Obama ads. One compared an Obama campaign ad featuring actor Morgan Freeman talking about the president's economic achievements with an ad from GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. The other compared an ad on Obama's plans for the future with an ad on Romney's plans.

Carville and Greenberg found both Obama ads were viewed more favorably than Romney's by those who took the survey. The ad featuring Freeman -- which was of particular concern to the advisers because of its message on gains in the economy -- also tested well, as they wrote, "allaying fears that the campaign had made a premature turn to underscore economic gains on the economy that have emerged in the last month."

Still, they wrote that neither strategy on talking about the economy seemed to work equally across the board. Swing voters, seniors and white non-college-educated voters responded well to the ad on the progress made by Obama, while minorities and self-identified Democrats were more drawn to the ad on his plans for the future.

Carville and Greenberg spoke in May 2010 about the political challenges of dealing with the economy, advising the White House to focus on fiscal responsibility and job growth.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/19/james-carville-stanley-greenberg-obama-economy_n_1990403.html

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Carville, Greenberg Say Obama Economy Message Is Working (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2012 OP
The Morgan Freeman ad is ProSense Oct 2012 #1
Agreed. ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #6
Yes it is... kentuck Oct 2012 #8
It's running nationally Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #10
Yes, even in blue states. n/t ProSense Oct 2012 #14
The Morgan Freeman ad started running here in Philly last Monday. BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #16
I've seen it online several times. Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #11
They're not wasting it necessarily Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #13
It will help down ballot in places where it matters. n/t ProSense Oct 2012 #15
Carville would not say that if he didn't mean it bluestateguy Oct 2012 #2
he was one of the few Dems who actually defended Obama JI7 Oct 2012 #3
Really? I thought it was just the opposite. SunSeeker Oct 2012 #7
Here's what he said about Mitt, ProSense Oct 2012 #9
"no liker"? :) Cha Oct 2012 #5
Nice of you to get with the program, Carville. SunSeeker Oct 2012 #4
What is it with you people and Hillary? Julien Sorel Oct 2012 #12
Tell that to Carville. SunSeeker Oct 2012 #17
 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
10. It's running nationally
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:29 AM
Oct 2012

Ive seen it dozens of times here in Oklahoma, which is the only way we get presidential ads. It's also being used in excellent time slots. It was used twice during the premiere of Walking Dead Sunday night. Also saw it on both the Sunday and Monday night NFL games. They would have had to reserve those slots months ago. Very well targeted.

Julien Sorel

(6,067 posts)
11. I've seen it online several times.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:54 AM
Oct 2012

I don't own a TV, but it's everywhere online. And I live in the reddest state in the union, a state where very few candidates in any election even bother running ads, because the outcome of most elections is known a year or two in advance. So I assume it's national, which annoyed me, because if they're paying to pipe ads like that to my state, they're wasting money. I don't think it's the fault of the campaign so much as it is that internet advertizing isn't yet as refined as it ought to be. It's still annoying, though.

 

Floyd_Gondolli

(1,277 posts)
13. They're not wasting it necessarily
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:01 AM
Oct 2012

As I said its not being played gratuitously. Walking Dead is very popular as is the NFL. They also would have had to lock in those slots months ago at cheaper rates than what Romney is getting with his pay as you go strategy. Every presidential campaign has a national ad strategy. Obama's campaign has been pretty smart with theirs IMO.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
3. he was one of the few Dems who actually defended Obama
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:09 AM
Oct 2012

and went after romney after that first Debate .

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
7. Really? I thought it was just the opposite.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:16 AM
Oct 2012
James Carville Slams Obama: 'President Obama Did Not Want To Be There'

Democratic strategist James Carville found it hard to spin President Barack Obama's debate performance last night, saying on CNN that it looked like he "did not want to be there."

“I had one overwhelming impression,” Carville said. “I did everything I could not to reach it, but it looked like Romney wanted to be there and President Obama didn’t want to be there.”

http://www.businessinsider.com/james-carville-obama-debate-reaction-performance-romney-wins-2012-10




ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. Here's what he said about Mitt,
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:21 AM
Oct 2012

from the link:

"They have run a very good campaign thus far," he said of the Obama campaign. "I don’t think that President Obama did what this campaign wanted him to do. I think he was off his game tonight. But let’s don’t go overboard here. It will be like a big sort of pushback."

He added: "My point is this — President Obama came in, he wanted to have a conversation. It takes two people to have a conversation. Mitt Romney came in with a chainsaw. He’s trying to talk to a chainsaw.


Seems like an accurate description of what transpired.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
4. Nice of you to get with the program, Carville.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:10 AM
Oct 2012

Did it suddenly dawn on you that it would be better for Hillary in 2016 if Obama was re-elected?

Julien Sorel

(6,067 posts)
12. What is it with you people and Hillary?
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:56 AM
Oct 2012

Seriously, get a grip. The world doesn't revolve around Hillary fucking Clinton.

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