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(9,694 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)I have my issues with Milley, but this isn't one of them. Mark Esper also deserves credit, as he was also engaging in similar heroics. before he was fired.
Blue Owl
(50,355 posts)Those dam athetits!
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)he is the strong authority figure type she would swoon over.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,369 posts)Jerry2144
(2,100 posts)The court jester. Not funny, just stupid
Harker
(14,015 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,897 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 16, 2021, 02:52 PM - Edit history (1)
Majorly Traitor Greed.
Chipper Chat
(9,678 posts)PJMcK
(22,035 posts)She can't even insult someone without fucking it up.
Fool.
Shame on those Georgians who elected her to represent them. She's useless and those voters deserve what they got.
sarisataka
(18,632 posts)Nearly weekly
malthaussen
(17,193 posts)If the general is accused of violating the UCMJ, then let him stand his court martial. They could put an end to this bullshit by acquitting him with a resounding "Well Done!" Or the President could pardon him, that's what the pardon power is for.
We need, as a country, to move away from this idea that an accusation or arrest automatically confers guilt. Back when Britain ruled the waves, if a captain lost his ship, regardless of circumstances, he automatically faced a court martial. That didn't mean he would end up convicted of any wrongdoing. The whole point of a trial is to determine guilt or innocence under the law, not to pillory someone before the gavel even comes down.
We need, as a country, to disenable the Court of Popular Opinion which demands resignation and retribution before guilt or innocence is even established. An accusation is not a conviction. Neither is an indictment. We seem to be forgetting that more and more.
-- Mal
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)to a certain basic level of fundamental skills and knowledge. Again, it can be self-educated, and given that some of the smartest people I have ever known read constantly and were more "educated" than any Ivy League graduate, that is much admired.
But the ignorance displayed daily by the Boeberts, MTG, Louie Gohmerts, and others in Congress leaves me aghast.
And that so many equally uneducated Americans seem impressed by the ignorance will be the death of our stab at democracy.
jimfields33
(15,787 posts)Unless we require all to have minimum of a masters degree. She probably get the education check mark.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)She demonstrates little of the latter.
jimfields33
(15,787 posts)I guess thats something to consider.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)Her voters seem to consider it both unimportant and a detriment in those who demonstrate education and abilities.
Three decades of RW diminishing of education as "signs of being out-of-touch" has left its mark.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,956 posts)to be able to speak, write and spell at least at the high school level.
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)Caliman73
(11,736 posts)"Do you think that having a degree makes a difference?"
First the context. I am in the social services field. Currently, the government entity I work for requires a Master's Degree for certain positions, though there is a provision for a combination of a non-graduate degree and experience in a comparable position. We do investigations of complex abuse against elders and vulnerable adults. We have had some hires recently and the topic came up about whether a degree matters.
For the record, I have a BA in psychology, a Masters in Public Administration, and am working on a Masters in Psychology with an emphasis in MFT. I have been in various fields within social services from hardcore mental health case management, to working with Developmentally disabled people for the last 27 years, and working my current job for 8 years.
I said what any over educated person would say, "It depends". As with your experience, I have seen brilliant people with an undergraduate degree or no degree, who assimilate information easily and articulate their situation better than I. I have seen complete morons with Doctoral degrees. "It depends" on the person and the education. University does two things in my opinion and experience. It provides you with some tools for critical thinking (evaluating information for accuracy, assessing the validity of evidence, forming logical argumentation, etc..) and it provides you with knowledge specific to your area of interest. What you do with that and how you carry it forward into your career and your life, cannot be imposed upon you by the University. Some people go in with a very narrow world view and come out expanded, inquisitive, and armed with the information needed to be "informed". Some people go in and come out with a piece of paper and the same poor skills they went in with. Some do not need a university to provide the framework for the above. It depends.
The thing that I took from University was from undergraduate. I was taking an elective in Social Psychology. My professor said during a discussion on media and influence (mind you, this was pre Fox and Rush Limbaugh even), "All information is biased. If anyone tells you different, they are lying. Bias is not bad, but you need to figure out what the agenda is. What are they trying to get you to think and is that pro-social or anti-social." To this day, I still use that framework to evaluate information.
I don't know if Greene is literally, academically and intellectually what we would call "stupid". She often shows an inability and maybe even an unwillingness to grasp and explain concepts. Whatever is in her head, she displays what we would call ignorance and like you said, there has always been a rather large market in the US for confident ignorance.
Tommy Carcetti
(43,181 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,369 posts)had me cracking up.
I carry the DVD in my truck and every now and then, I'll watch it.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)headed off the tracks someone hast to do the right thing, chain of command be damned.
JHB
(37,159 posts)live love laugh
(13,104 posts)targeted and ignored for pointing spelling and anything else thats actually substantive out.
Its an intentional anti-education strategy.
Their side gets the message and DGAF about misspellings, or reality for that matter.