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Thu Sep 16, 2021, 11:24 AM Sep 2021

Thank god for atheists.

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 2h
Pew Research: Religious groups and vaccinations

Most vaccinated: 90% of atheists have received at least one COVID vaccine dose.

Least vaccinated: 57% of white evangelicals have received at least one COVID vaccine dose.






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Thank god for atheists. (Original Post) bigtree Sep 2021 OP
Weird. I wasn't asked my beliefs or lack there of before or after getting the vaccine jimfields33 Sep 2021 #1
It was a survey. nt. Mariana Sep 2021 #6
It was in a Pew survey released yesterday. n/t Hugin Sep 2021 #7
Did anyone argue you were asked as much? LanternWaste Sep 2021 #45
????? jimfields33 Sep 2021 #47
As a proud atheist... orwell Sep 2021 #2
White evangelicals don't represent the majority of people in organized religions StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #16
+1 berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #35
Are Buddhists organized? Harker Sep 2021 #43
Up there with politics and economics... LanternWaste Sep 2021 #46
I got a chuckle from your post title. tymorial Sep 2021 #3
You're welcome. LakeArenal Sep 2021 #4
Its simple Bayard Sep 2021 #5
Nah, they're afraid science will take away the tools their gods use to kill people they hate. hunter Sep 2021 #8
They all think they're going to heaven Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #11
many know in their hearts they are headed downwards cynical_idealist Sep 2021 #32
You are welcome HAB911 Sep 2021 #9
I started noticing people saying 'no worries' several years ago. For some reason Tadpole Raisin Sep 2021 #17
It's an Australian expression. SergeStorms Sep 2021 #20
LOL! No worries! I don't but it just seemed to pop up out of nowhere. I know I'm getting older Tadpole Raisin Sep 2021 #25
I ain't no spring chicken myself. SergeStorms Sep 2021 #34
oh don't get me started HAB911 Sep 2021 #22
LOL! I could handle that if I didn't still hear the 'like you know, like it was Tadpole Raisin Sep 2021 #33
We got no "blood of Jesus" to protect us atheists... SidDithers Sep 2021 #10
They're real big on that blood stuff.... SergeStorms Sep 2021 #37
Point well taken wryter2000 Sep 2021 #12
"Jesus Take the Wheel" Traildogbob Sep 2021 #13
And unvaccinated church types have been gathering indoors real close IronLionZion Sep 2021 #14
Keep in mind from their perspective, "end times" are KPN Sep 2021 #15
And they're looking forward to it. SergeStorms Sep 2021 #21
Based an a couple of conversations I have had with KPN Sep 2021 #24
As a former Hospice nurse, the people most fearful of dying were Christians. By far. flying_wahini Sep 2021 #18
That seems at odds.... SergeStorms Sep 2021 #27
Considering that there are non-believers, those who believe in reincarnation, and those who believe TexasTowelie Sep 2021 #31
Makes perfect sense to me. Demobrat Sep 2021 #40
Well, like Governor Tater Tot of Mississippi said, "They aren't afraid of Covid because they believe liberal_mama Sep 2021 #19
Puzzling, isn't it? SergeStorms Sep 2021 #29
We also have the lowest divorce rates. knightmaar Sep 2021 #23
As far as I can tell relayerbob Sep 2021 #26
Wow - this tweet is SO misleading! StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #28
We atheists are very good at doing the Lord's work Newkophile65 Sep 2021 #30
As a devout Pastafarian, I take exception. Every devotee of the Spaghetti Monster is vaccinated, erronis Sep 2021 #36
May you be touched Retired Engineer Bob Sep 2021 #49
As an atheist, this makes me wonder if the evangelicals berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #38
Ironical! he he he ... aggiesal Sep 2021 #39
Nice not believing adult Santa is going to work his magic... LiberatedUSA Sep 2021 #41
Right?! ffr Sep 2021 #42
How about: Marthe48 Sep 2021 #44
Here is the graph DBoon Sep 2021 #48

jimfields33

(15,692 posts)
1. Weird. I wasn't asked my beliefs or lack there of before or after getting the vaccine
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 11:32 AM
Sep 2021

I find these stats interesting but aren’t they basically counting heads?

orwell

(7,769 posts)
2. As a proud atheist...
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 11:33 AM
Sep 2021

...I once again point out the danger of organized religion.

It's the greatest tool the patriarchy has ever invented.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
16. White evangelicals don't represent the majority of people in organized religions
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 12:54 PM
Sep 2021

You should read the poll report. Many people in organized religious groups have very high rates of vaccination.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
46. Up there with politics and economics...
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 04:04 PM
Sep 2021

"It's the greatest tool the patriarchy has ever invented..."

Up there with politics, economics, and all the other imaginary constructs we allow to rule over us every day without a whimper.

Bayard

(22,005 posts)
5. Its simple
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 11:43 AM
Sep 2021

White evangelicals believe their god will save them from the big bad virus. Atheists know better.

hunter

(38,302 posts)
8. Nah, they're afraid science will take away the tools their gods use to kill people they hate.
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 11:59 AM
Sep 2021

They're not so afraid of dying themselves until they actually get sick. They don't start to have doubts about their gods saving them until then.

Anti-intellectual religions are all like this.

HAB911

(8,867 posts)
9. You are welcome
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 12:02 PM
Sep 2021

You got it!

Don’t mention it

No worries

Not a problem

My pleasure

It was nothing

I’m happy to help

Not at all

Sure

Anytime!

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
17. I started noticing people saying 'no worries' several years ago. For some reason
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 12:55 PM
Sep 2021

the expression just doesn’t sit well - feels odd to me. Another generational thing I guess as it seems to be people in their 30s and younger who say it.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
20. It's an Australian expression.
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:02 PM
Sep 2021

I guess someone in the U.S. appropriated the expression, or some Aussie ex-pats used it and it just caught on.

I wouldn't spend a whole lot of time worrying about it.

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
25. LOL! No worries! I don't but it just seemed to pop up out of nowhere. I know I'm getting older
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:16 PM
Sep 2021

but sheesh I’m not keeping up with the times.

I do find it fascinating how language shifts and changes - from new phrases to new meanings for existing words. It’s just not organic to me anymore. Such is life.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
34. I ain't no spring chicken myself.
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:33 PM
Sep 2021

72, soon to turn 73. I think the world is such a small place now that different sayings just mesh into each other's lexicon. The inter-webs, and all that. We even have those commie Ruskies trying to interfere in our elections now!

G'day mate.

HAB911

(8,867 posts)
22. oh don't get me started
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:07 PM
Sep 2021

my current peeve is everyone begins talking with "I mean" blah blah blah

i think it may be the 21st Century version of "Uh"

Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
33. LOL! I could handle that if I didn't still hear the 'like you know, like it was
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:29 PM
Sep 2021

amazing like…’

It the language version of pants hanging on your bum, a trend I still see and which can’t go away fast enough for me!

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
12. Point well taken
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 12:40 PM
Sep 2021

However there are religious people who aren’t white evangelicals. It would be interesting to see what they had to say.

Edited to add: the title of the survey is “Religious groups,” plural.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
14. And unvaccinated church types have been gathering indoors real close
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 12:50 PM
Sep 2021

deep in prayer and song unmasked. Good luck with that

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
21. And they're looking forward to it.
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:06 PM
Sep 2021

If it doesn't come soon enough for their liking, will they attempt to cause the end times?

Many people think think they would. A self-fulfilling prophecy, and all that.

KPN

(15,635 posts)
24. Based an a couple of conversations I have had with
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:11 PM
Sep 2021

evangelical acquaintances recently, I have to agree. I’ve heard it from the horse’s mouth, spoken with a measure of “rapture”.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
27. That seems at odds....
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:19 PM
Sep 2021

with everything they've been indoctrinated with.

You'd think they'd relish the fluffy white clouds, angels playing harps, old friends and dear relatives awaiting their arrival, having their very own room in god's house, and all that.

That's a very interesting observation, flying_wahini. Can you offer any insight into this seeming contradiction? Could it be they're not as certain about their after death destination as they profess to be?

TexasTowelie

(111,938 posts)
31. Considering that there are non-believers, those who believe in reincarnation, and those who believe
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:25 PM
Sep 2021

that there is no existence after that on the Earth, I can rationalize why Christians are fearful. How many other religions are out there where people face judgment after death to determine whether they spend eternity in heaven or hell? There is more to fear as a believer than as a non-believer.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
19. Well, like Governor Tater Tot of Mississippi said, "They aren't afraid of Covid because they believe
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:00 PM
Sep 2021

in Eternal Life." Yet, my Facebook feed is full of desperate prayer requests for people stricken with Covid in Mississippi.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
29. Puzzling, isn't it?
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:22 PM
Sep 2021

Almost as if they realize their religious "death story" is complete horse-shit right from the get-go.

relayerbob

(6,537 posts)
26. As far as I can tell
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:16 PM
Sep 2021

This is the same demographic as those who refuse to wear masks at our local grocery stores. They are almost always white,usually middle aged, more men than women, but both. Almost all other groups wear them. I see lots of younger people (also mostly white) without masks, but in a fairly liberal area, i am making the assumption that most are vaxxed.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
28. Wow - this tweet is SO misleading!
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:21 PM
Sep 2021

Comparing ALL atheists, whatever their background, race, other demographics with white evangelicals, a very small sliver of religious people, doesn't tell us much of anything - any more than comparing, say, white atheists with Black Jews would Tell us about whether atheists are more likely to get vaccinated than religious people.

The percentage of atheists vs. non-atheists would tell us something. This means nothing.

Even looking at the limited groups of religious people in the Pew poll, the numbers are very different than the tweet suggests. While atheists do report a high percentage of vaccinations - 90% - some other non-believers have much lower numbers. Catholics and Protestants also have a high degree of vaccination - up to 86% for some of them. But oddly, Pew doesn't include statistics for Black Catholics in this report

It also doesn't include Jews or Muslims or Hindus or any other religious group besides Protestants and Catholics in its report. So this poll really tells us nothing about the difference in vaccination rates between Atheists and religious people But it does tell us more than this meaningless tweet lets on.


https://www.pewresearch.org/science/2021/09/15/covid19-restrictions-appendix/ps_2021-09-15_covid19-restrictions_a-01/

erronis

(15,181 posts)
36. As a devout Pastafarian, I take exception. Every devotee of the Spaghetti Monster is vaccinated,
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 01:34 PM
Sep 2021

that I know of.

Not only that, we need to get an exemption to be around people who aren't vaxxed:
https://www.spaghettimonster.org/


Vaccine exemption letters
Published September 14th, 2021 by Bobby Henderson

Many people have asked what is the Church’s stance on vaccinations and vaccination mandates.

Many have asked if we provide exemption letters.

I find it weird that religious exemptions are an accepted thing in general, seems like it would be best to leave public health policy to the most knowledgable, not religious leadership. But if Churches must take a position on the issue …

I am happy to announce that we are offering Official letters for those Pastafarians who would like to be exempt from working in proximity to the unvaxxed.

The unvaccinated may emit harmful virus particles which are forbidden to devout Pastafarians, therefore we expect all reasonable measures to be taken to help us avoid these virus particles. Please respect our religious liberty.

Create your letter here with this form I made. Enter your information to get an Official letter (PDF).

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
41. Nice not believing adult Santa is going to work his magic...
Thu Sep 16, 2021, 02:08 PM
Sep 2021

…and answer your prayers depending on whether you’ve been naughty or nice.

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