Mom Throws Child to Floor in Gas Station-Des Moines

[xmas74]

https://www.kctv5.com/video-mom-throws-child-to-ground-at-gas-station-punches-witness-who-intervened/article_15f592a9-77b4-5fed-a105-b7e7fefa16fc.html

Two people intervened. She punched one in the back of the head.

Happy ending:
1) They whooped her ass
2) She was arrested and charged for child endangerment and assault
3) The child seems to be doing well under DCS care
4) The assault against an autistic child and her subsequent ass beating was recorded. Follow the link.

[kimbutgar]

1. What an awful ugly woman

I hope she loses custody of that child.

[panader0]

4. I'll she hopes that too. Some people should never be parents.

[PatSeg]

14. Years ago, I knew a woman much like that

She had three children under five, one was a newborn. Her many visits to the hospital with the newborn who was not thriving, led family and child services to investigate and considered the possibility that the mother was actually mentally handicapped. I don't know what happened to them, but I sincerely hope the children were removed from her care and that she got some help as well.

Looking at that woman in the video, it occurred to me that she might be mentally handicapped. There appeared to be something seriously wrong with her, not just mean and cruel, but in need of treatment and medication. She certainly is not equipped to be a parent of any child, let alone a special needs child.

[kimbutgar]

18. I agree something is not right about her, she could be an alcohol or drug substance user

Having an autistic child is difficult and if one is not mentally equipped themselves to handle the challenges things can turn out bad for both of them.

I hope the child gets into a better situation.

[PatSeg]

26. I hope so as well

It is appalling that no one seems to have intervened before this.

[Demovictory9]

27. agreed. something is off with her. should not be parenting child without supervision, if at all

[PatSeg]

28. Without knowing more about their situation,

it would appear that the system has failed them both. This problem didn't just pop up overnight.

[Deuxcents]

2. I agree

The statement that if she does this in public, what’s the home life like says it all. She should not be allowed near children. Some jail time is in order.

[Mariana]

3. The kid looks underfed, too, from the video.

I know some kids are just naturally scrawny. Mine was like that, always skating right along the very low end of the "normal" weight range and occasionally under it, but perfectly healthy. She didn't look like this kid, though. This kid looks underfed.

[LakeArenal]

12. Mom apparently not underfed.

[Treefrog]

23. Nice.

[JanMichael]

37. True though. Nt

[Treefrog]

39. Fat shaming is so progressive.

[JanMichael]

44. Ignoring reality isn't very progressive.nt

[Treefrog]

48. Her being overweight is somehow part of this reality?

No, it’s ugly name calling that no matter how many times it’s called out there, people continue.

I’d love to see pics of the folks here who like to fat shame others.

[leftieNanner]

16. I was very thin as a child

During a time when people thought that the only healthy child is a chubby one.

A woman stopped my mother on the street one day and told her "you are a terrible mother. You take that child home and feed her right now!"

[LakeArenal]

34. My mom from TX thought diet food was steak and mashed potatoes

[leftieNanner]

43. Or the "diet" plate at a diner

hamburger patty and cottage cheese.

[LakeArenal]

45. Ha my parents met at a Texas cafeteria.

[Mariana]

35. My mother in law always though my kid was starving.

It got old telling her over and over and over again the doctor says she's fine and she's active (as she could plainly see) and she hardly ever gets sick. "But I never see her eat!" That's because your cooking sucks. I wouldn't eat it either if I didn't have to be polite.

I'm sure CPS will have this child examined by a pediatrician. If it hasn't happened already it will very soon.

[leftieNanner]

46. Our Wise Pediatrician told me

that the benchmarks are healthy growth and development - whatever that means for each individual child.

He also told me when I asked about percentiles - which seemed to be a competitive thing in our neck of the woods - that he would give it to me to four decimal places so I could drive the other mothers crazy. As I said, he was very wise. And he had a great sense of humor. My two daughters loved him!

[brer cat]

5. She should not be around children.

What a horrible woman!

[Ilsa]

6. She's unfit to be that child's parent. nt

[33taw]

7. She appears to have some challenges as well. I hope she loses custody and gets some help.

It is hard to imagine what happened to her that make her think this was okay.

[XanaDUer2]

8. Thank you

she seems to have some issues herself. Which is no excuse at all for any physical abuse. I hope CPS intervenes.

I want to see mental health addressed in this country through national Healthcare.

I want to see parents being supported if they are stressed out and "lose it".

I want to see abortion legal if a woman does not feel ready to be a parent.

We are not family-friendly. That woman may be on the fringe, just hanging on, and snapped.

[Treefrog]

10. Well said.

[PatSeg]

15. Yes, I said something similar upthread

The child needs saving, but I think the woman needs serious help and support. It is possible that she and her child fell through the cracks somewhere along the way and she is not equipped to be a mother.

Edit to add: In other words we could be looking at a special needs parent raising a special needs child, possibly with no help or support.

[XanaDUer2]

19. We have far to go in supporting families

in the UK, new moms get home baby visits. Early intervention should something be off.

[PatSeg]

32. That is so true

Over the years, I have seen so many mothers struggling on their own, invisible to the systems in place meant to help them. In a better system, a lot of problems would be identified and dealt with early, hopefully preventing long term neglect and abuse. This should be a top priority, as these children grow up and can become a bigger problem for society, as well as have children of their own. I would venture that this mother probably was one of those children who never got the help and support that she needed.

The cycle never ends unless we have the will to end it.

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

21. You and 33taw are right.

When we see something like that we instantly think what a horrible person and is not human. I did.

I do think she should lose custody because that anger is not going to repair anytime soon. I would also hope any other children or adults ( disabled/elderly ) she has in custody be removed from her abusive care.

I do however think she should have to start taking therapy/anger management for herself and parenting classes. When she shows enough improvement maybe she could retain custody again. Perhaps classes on how to deal with autistic children also.

Something or the same happened to her to make her feel and think that that was the way to handle things.

[XanaDUer2]

22. We need holistic care in this country

it's always in crisis before we react

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

24. That is right.

I hate admitting this but I have a horrible temper when I have very stressful situations that could happen with having children.

I found out I was pregnant years ago and the first thing I did was start getting therapy set up and looking for all the parenting classes around my area. I found out there was a kind of mom group who helped each other in case of need to remove yourself for an hour or two or just talk.

Unfortunately I had an atopic pregnancy so I never had a child. I know if I had resources available I would have been able to be a good mother. I am also lucky to have family and friends who would have helped me.

I think the best thing I was able to do was recognize that I had a problem and be willing to work at fixing it despite being embarrassed about it. A lot of people are unable to do that or unwilling to do something about it.

[XanaDUer2]

25. I'm child free by choice

and very lucky I had that choice in my past. I'm too old now.

But I always knew I couldn't handle the stress of motherhood. But I support others' getting as much help as needed to raise healthy, happy kids.

God knows the situation here.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

41. Im childfree too

I cant handle children I dont like children and dont like being around kids. It stresses me out,thier shrill crying and high pitched voices drive me crazy so if a kid screams or cries around me I get my ass out of there quick.

Even though I dont like kids it pisses me off when adults hurt or neglect them and I will stand up for a kid that needs help.

So I never wanted kids myself so I made sure my fertility was destroyed at the earliest as possible age.

I decided when I was a kid I never wanted kids.

[XanaDUer2]

53. Me, too

I'm okay with precocious kids, but whining tantrum-throwers make me anxious!

[I_UndergroundPanther]

55. Yeah anxious

Irritated,feel like I'm going to explode and flashes of anger. And extreme irritation.

If I couldn't escape the situation I probably would start screaming myself.

[PatSeg]

33. You are very self-aware, that is really impressive

Every situation is so unique, but people are quick to pigeonhole parents without knowing the full story. Successful mothers are usually the ones who get the most support, but I've known so many who didn't and nothing prepared them for being a parent. Add to that the crippling effects of poverty, having children for some people can be a long term nightmare that they often cannot escape.

Of course, I've known some truly appalling parents, who in spite of support and resources were just rotten, confirming to me that perhaps some people really should not have children. And that's okay. We live in a time when people don't really have to have children. As a rule, it is no longer automatically expected.

[meadowlander]

30. Autism is genetic so there's pretty good odds she's on the spectrum if her son is diagnosed.

Autistic people having sensory induced meltdowns (e.g. by listening to a child screaming and not being able to get away from it) can behave irrationally and aggressively. Imagine you were tied down in a room and forced to listen to whatever sounds are the equivalent of nails on a chalkboard for you turned up to 11 with strobe lights and random pounding and floor shaking and then imagine listening to that for 10 solid years except the source is your child. Autistic people actually don't have any control over that meltdown reaction and can feel really mortified by how they behaved afterwards.

I'm not saying that excuses child abuse or that every autistic person (or even most autistic people) would react this way. I'm just saying that this could be a more complex situation.

I would never have kids because I know I simply couldn't cope with the sensory stuff or the social demands 24/7. Just being around small kids for a few hours can cause me to physically and mentally shut down for days.

I know we all like to be empowering and positive for people with disabilities but it gets really complex when the welfare of other people, especially children, comes into the picture. Just saying again though that every autistic person is different and we don't know the situation here - it's just one possible explanation.

I hope everyone in this situation gets the help they need.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

47. I dont have autism

But screaming kits drives me nuts in the way you discribed.

Certain sounds colors and textures really irritate me. Dont know why. But kids crying and screaming really bother me in the extreme knowing that I get myself away from it rather than chew out the parents or start screaming a blue streak. I dunno why I have this reaction. Its a pain in the ass tho.

[Treefrog]

9. That's horribly upsetting.

Thank goodness tho people intervened. I can only imagine what has happened to that child in private.

[YoshidaYui]

11. dayam ....

that was somed smack down at the end...

[LakeArenal]

13. She may be unholy on the outside.

But inside.....worse.

[Moebym]

17. Had she not been taken into custody

Who knows what would have happened to him at home?

I get that caring for autistic kids can be incredibly stressful, but her behavior goes far beyond disciplining him for acting out - it suggests abuse.

[LanternWaste]

29. My five years as a caseworker in TX CPS came back to me with that video.

(five years only, back in the nineties... any more and I would have gone to the drink or gone too dark).

I came across too many moms and dads like this one, and I heard too many excuses that never rose to the level of ever justifying the end results of their actions.

Doesn't really take that much training, medication, or therapy for any parent to realize there are lines we simply do not cross.

People will rationalize others crossing those lines. That's swell.

I won't.

[Treefrog]

40. Please explain what would "rise to the level" of excusing that abuse of a child?

[LanternWaste]

56. Falling over unconscious onto an infant is one excuse.

That being one case I worked (and yes, falling onto an infant fell within the state's definition of abuse-- which is why I was sent).


(seems to be trying a little too hard with this one... making inferences for the sake of making inferences. Must be Thursday)

[XanaDUer2]

49. recognizing complexities is not condoning abuse nt

[LanternWaste]

57. I did not argue as such. nt

[Calculating]

31. She's more than ugly on the outside

It goes right to her heart

[JanMichael]

36. She certainly wrote a check she could not cash huh?

She hit that one woman in the back of the head and then bam.

[XanaDUer2]

50. thats really sexist. Nt

[Treefrog]

51. Cannot believe I just read this here.

thanks

[XanaDUer2]

52. This is like the too-ugly-to-rape defense. Nt

[Treefrog]

54. That was disgusting.

Speaks volumes about that poster.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

42. Wasn't she thrown from a train?