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Celerity

(43,317 posts)
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:28 AM Sep 2021

A doctor called coronavirus vaccines 'fake.' Now he sits on an Idaho regional health board.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/16/idaho-covid-gop-ryan-cole/



Leaders of Idaho’s most populous county were deluged with constituent emails last month as they prepared to choose the newest member of a once-obscure regional health board. A doctor who served on the board for 15 years had just been let go over his support for pandemic restrictions. Hundreds wrote in for Ryan Cole, a doctor — backed by the Ada County Republican Party — who has called coronavirus vaccines “fake.” The Republican commissioners of the county — which encompasses the state capital, Boise — said they welcomed Cole’s “outsider” perspective and willingness to “question” established medical guidance. They appointed him over the protests of their lone Democratic colleague.

To critics, Cole’s elevation to a public health-care role is an extreme example of GOP-driven resistance to not only mandates but basic medical guidance, as the pandemic overwhelms Idaho’s hospitals like never before. The covid-19 patients filling hospital wards and prompting statewide rationing of care are almost all unvaccinated. Yet Idaho’s lieutenant governor recently suggested, falsely, that vaccinated people are more likely to die, and some officials in the heavily conservative state — where many preach “freedom” from government — consider even recommending the shots to be an overreach. As the delta variant fuels a new wave of coronavirus hospitalizations and deaths nationwide, some see Idaho as just the latest example of a pandemic response hobbled by politics and a year of intense backlash against public health restrictions.

“To watch my state implode over political decisions that have adverse consequences on health is horrifying to me. … That’s the tragedy that I’m watching unfold,” said Ted Epperly, Cole’s predecessor on the Central District Health Board, which can make broad rules such as mask mandates but had some of its authority stripped this year. David Pate, a friend of Epperly and a former CEO of Boise-based St. Luke’s Health System, said that if there is no political will or ability to enact mask mandates, authorities need to at least give people good information. He said the combination of decreasing public health officials’ powers and then allowing them to spread falsehoods is “the worst possible outcome.” He just learned that a charter school he successfully urged to require masks has changed course after hearing a presentation from Cole.

A lifelong Republican and member of the governor’s coronavirus advisory group, Pate marveled that a segment of the right has been spreading misinformation that he said will be most deadly to their shot-spurning base. About 40 percent of Idaho’s population is fully vaccinated against the coronavirus, one of the lowest rates in the country and significantly below the national figure of 54 percent. “The America that I know and love … yes, we’re going to have intense debates,” Pate said. “We’re going to have different views of things. But any time we’ve faced an existential threat, we’ve pulled together. … We do whatever we need to do to protect our fellow man and our country. And I think it’s terrifying that that doesn’t seem to be how we’re handling this.” Cole said in an email that the news media “has disastrously and disingenuously mischaracterized me,” but he did not respond to further questions.

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A doctor called coronavirus vaccines 'fake.' Now he sits on an Idaho regional health board. (Original Post) Celerity Sep 2021 OP
Post hoc ergo propter hoc... RockRaven Sep 2021 #1
"But anytime we've faced an existential threat"... SergeStorms Sep 2021 #2
"And I think it's terrifying that that doesn't seem to be how we're handling this." William Seger Sep 2021 #3
Anyone who'd claim the vaccines are "fake"... SergeStorms Sep 2021 #9
But you seem to be confused about who said what William Seger Sep 2021 #11
After re-reading the article... SergeStorms Sep 2021 #13
You're right about the article structure being confusing. ShazzieB Sep 2021 #15
Idaho is pulling resources from Washington, and soon Oregon gratuitous Sep 2021 #14
Thanks for posting Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2021 #4
This is perfect. ShazzieB Sep 2021 #16
Hopefully Karma will nominate him for the Herman Cain Phoenix61 Sep 2021 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2021 #6
The kind who doesn't like doctors calling the covid Phoenix61 Sep 2021 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2021 #8
He should lose his medical license for that. Initech Sep 2021 #10
It is Idaho. He will fit right in. nt leftyladyfrommo Sep 2021 #12

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
1. Post hoc ergo propter hoc...
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:33 AM
Sep 2021

Sometimes it's an error in reasoning, and sometimes it is a causal relationship.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
2. "But anytime we've faced an existential threat"...
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 06:13 AM
Sep 2021

we've pulled together ".

Hey, asshole, COVID-19 is about the biggest existential threat we've ever had as a nation, and Idaho has the second lowest vaccination rate in the country?

Where's all this "pulling together" you're bullshitting about?

Fucking republicans.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
3. "And I think it's terrifying that that doesn't seem to be how we're handling this."
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 06:47 AM
Sep 2021

You stopped reading one sentence too soon.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
9. Anyone who'd claim the vaccines are "fake"...
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:18 PM
Sep 2021

doesn't get to backtrack just so he doesn't look like a total shithead later on.

I read the entire article.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
11. But you seem to be confused about who said what
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:37 PM
Sep 2021

Cole was the one who said the vaccines are "fake." You quoted Pate.

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
13. After re-reading the article...
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 01:45 PM
Sep 2021

you are correct, but you have to admit the article is somewhat confusing in it's structure.

Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa.

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
15. You're right about the article structure being confusing.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:39 PM
Sep 2021

When you quote person A and then quote person B, there needs to be a clear indication of the switch. In this case, a well-placed paragraph break would have helped a lot.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. Idaho is pulling resources from Washington, and soon Oregon
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 02:38 PM
Sep 2021

So see? All the Pacific Northwest states are going to have to pull together to deal with Idaho's lethal incompetence. See? Together! So if you're sick and can't get into the hospital in Seattle or stay at the ICU in Oregon because of all the sick Idahoans clogging up the joint, just think of how we're all pulling together for Idaho and their stubborn insistence on putting everyone else in danger.

Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #5)

Phoenix61

(17,002 posts)
7. The kind who doesn't like doctors calling the covid
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 08:24 AM
Sep 2021

vaccine fake. The kind who especially doesn’t like those said doctors getting relevant to positions of power where they can reach even lore people with a message that will lead to the needless deaths of too many people. I believe you mean Cain and he wasn’t murdered, he died of covid.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/herman-cain-died-of-covid-19-not-cancer/

Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #7)

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