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Sugarmaggie

(110 posts)
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 06:22 AM Sep 2021

Alternate Universes in Idaho

Commercials running for Sept 18 YMCA Idaho Potato Marathon while rationing care across state in all hospitals. Individuals standing on the street around government centers holding up signs wanting medical freedom and choice.

There will be a judgment day for leaders who shepherd the sheep over the edge of a cliff for your own political egotistical gain.

Karma is real

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madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
1. I don't think we have ever witnessed such self-destructive behavior from so many.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 06:27 AM
Sep 2021

It is insanity. I can’t wrap my head around it. What is wrong with these people?

gab13by13

(21,330 posts)
3. A few days ago at the golf course,
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 07:05 AM
Sep 2021

2 Trumpers were telling me about how terrible California was, full of Democrats. Now I know from experience that it is impossible to debate stupid so I just told them a story. I live in a small rural borough in central Pa. we always have a 4th of July parade. I told them about one parade back in the early 70's when our 2 state Reps., 1 a Republican, 1 a Democrat, rode in the parade in the same car.

The one Trumper said now they hate each other. I asked him why, he had no answer. I told him it is crazy to get so riled up over politics. I told him that his side wants him to hate people just because they are Democrats. I said back in the 70's our Republican Rep rode in the same car with our Democratic Rep., what changed? I said to him that if I hated Republicans I wouldn't have anybody to golf with today.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
4. My mom said it was like this during the Vietnam War.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 07:16 AM
Sep 2021

Republicans are on the wrong side of everything and then lash out at Democrats for pointing it out.

It takes a lot to look past it, maybe golf let’s you do that!

PCIntern

(25,543 posts)
6. True, but only up to a point.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 07:54 AM
Sep 2021

Not every single Republican was pro war, and if they were questioning the Nixon doctrine, they were not completely ostracized by their peers in the party. The one thing Republicans always did in the old days was stick together no matter what. TFG however, made it impossible for certain Republicans to maintain their fealty to the party, and we I’ve certainly seen a fair number desert the party since TFG’s insanities became apparent.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
8. The 1960s were divisive, but being against or for the war was not on party lines
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 08:42 AM
Sep 2021

In addition, there were very conservative Democrats, including racist Dixiecrats and there were liberal Republicans.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
2. It is the sheep leading themselves and their "leaders" over the cliff.
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 06:30 AM
Sep 2021

It's probably a political impossibility to mandate COVID19 restrictions in that state. My guess is that when the death toll reaches an unkown level and more and more people can't get surgery to fix things like bone fractures, the citizens of Idaho will change their minds.

According to the below link, Idaho has one of the lowest fully vaccinated rates in the country. At 40% along with Wyoming, North Dakota, West Virginia and Alabama.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-tracker/

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
5. you got there first
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 07:50 AM
Sep 2021

I think it's a matter of feckless politicians giving the voters what they want (or think they want). And that certainly isn't any kind of 'new.'

Will we look back on this as reckless and self destructive? Can there be any real doubt? But then - let's take a look at our (collective) record on climate change ...

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
9. Health care rationing also impacts those who have been conscientious about COVID
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 09:31 AM
Sep 2021

My ID zip code in ID comprising SE Boise has a 70%+ full vaxx rate. Others elsewhere in the state are stalled in the low 20's. When push comes to shove, it won't make any difference whether individuals did the right thing or not, if and when the time comes for medical attention. Freedom without responsibility is a recipe for disaster.

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