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jail
By Brad Reed
Published September 17, 2021
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Alleged MAGA rioter Pauline Bauer reportedly had a full-on public meltdown on Friday when a judge ordered that she be sent back to prison ahead of her trial.
NBC 4 Washington's Scott MacFarlane reports that Bauer, who has echoed the rhetoric of so-called "sovereign citizens" in previous court filings, had her pre-trial release revoked after federal prosecutors documented how she has refused to follow court orders during her release.
During the hearing, writes MacFarlane, Bauer regularly challenged the court's authority to hold her in any kind of custody, even though she denied being part of the sovereign citizen movement.
https://www.rawstory.com/capitol-rioter-prison/
In her world its just fucking fine and dandy to drive on the wrong side of the road while everyone else follows the rules...that's basically what she is saying....just lock her ass up for good...
Celerity
(43,609 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,686 posts)Red Mountain
(1,739 posts)Some of these folks need mental help.
KentuckyWoman
(6,697 posts)Response to Red Mountain (Reply #3)
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Ilsa
(61,709 posts)She needs to relearn consequences.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)one of her other personalities will serve the time.
She'll be convinced that she beat the government, as a "sovereign citizen", and got off scot-free. 🤪
Who can argue with her, and why would anyone want to?
OMGWTF
(3,980 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(3,836 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)know wonder voted for "TFG" !
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,261 posts)She is saying that from her jail cell.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)reACTIONary
(5,789 posts)... somewhere above the arctic circle.
Volaris
(10,275 posts)I dont recognize the authority of this court.
Well, this Court is sure as FUCK about to recognize the hell out of YOU...Bailiff, if you would please?
Absolutley, Your Honor.
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Initech
(100,108 posts)FakeNoose
(32,833 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)"dine out" on her heroic resistance for the rest of her life, or until she runs out fellow whackos.
MissMillie
(38,589 posts)We are a nation of laws.
Moebym
(989 posts)I'm sure it will be absolutely enthralled.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)Not sure how this narrative got to stop the steal being about them. They went to DC and tried to steal my vote, your vote, and that of 81 mil who voted for Biden.
These punks crack me up. They live in a country where their party gets to rule after always losing the popular vote, live in a state where they get 2 Senators even though they represent far less people, and live in a country where the Supreme Court majority represents about a third of the country.
And they act like they are the ones who should be pissed. There should be millions in DC instead protesting to rebalance the Supreme Court and end the filibuster.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,660 posts)We're the ones that have a right to be angry.
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dianaredwing
(406 posts)how would she react to taxation without representation?
Ziggysmom
(3,426 posts)Stuart G
(38,453 posts)...Those of in the ...so called ...".Half Deck Club"... of which I am a charter member..(.having been accused of
such many years ago....) would never have someone that stupid in our club....Membership requires a certain amount
of some intelligence....but this lass has no intelligence at all....Quite appropriately she belongs in......................
................................"The No Deck Club"......................................................
Obviously, she has nothing at all up there......I will submit her name to .........."The No Deck Club"
......That club may not take her, but that is up to their membership..Since they have ...No Deck Up There
that club may not take her because the meet very rarely and when they do...no rules or leaders preside...It is just
screaming and yelling...of people with nothing up there and so stupid that they cannot run a meeting...
Mr. Evil
(2,856 posts)then why don't they hire a shit-ton of psychiatrists and psychologists and fill up their empty cells with these people? They could have a lifetime of 'patients' to study. And we don't have to listen to them anymore.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Thank you Judge! Good work!
RockRaven
(15,040 posts)Bauer is representing herself, in part because the person she wanted as her lawyer isn't admitted to the bar, but there is an "advisory counsel" who Bauer won't recognize as her attorney nor will she even speak to her... And that lawyer is trying to advocate for her and her rights and interests nonetheless, even as Bauer files 100+ page nonsense motions and yells at the judge and refuses to commit to abiding by any pretrial release conditions. What a thankless task.
70sEraVet
(3,525 posts)calimary
(81,532 posts)Her own good? Meh, Im really past caring about vaccination refuseniks like her.
Aussie105
(5,451 posts)I can do what I like!
You can't tell me what to do!
Don't make me angry! You won't like it when I get angry!
I deny your authority over me!
I refute your reality and prefer to substitute my own.
etc
Most of us grow up past that immature stage at an early age. Because it just doesn't work!
Some, apparently, never do. Arrested development? Whatever, lock her up! Long time!
Stuart G
(38,453 posts)She says..."The Judge cannot tell me what to do!"
stupid is still stupid is stupid...!!!
rpannier
(24,345 posts)C Moon
(12,223 posts)Scrivener7
(51,058 posts)They just don't know what to do with any boundaries whatsoever.
GoodRaisin
(8,930 posts)Someone this stupid needs people to look after her. Jail is the perfect place for her.
Iggo
(47,579 posts)Retired Engineer Bob
(759 posts)griloco
(832 posts)jmowreader
(50,567 posts)Sovereign citizens, of which Bauer is one, have read but not comprehended Article III, Section 2 of the Constitution, which sets out the original jurisdiction (cases the court has first dibs on) of the federal judiciary. Keep that word "federal" in mind, as it will come in handy.
This is what it says:
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party; to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.
Sovereign citizens have taken this to mean there are two levels of jurisdiction in US courts: "common law" jurisdiction, which basically says a SC can do whatever he or she wants, and Admiralty Maritime jurisdiction.
In the real world, the federal bench has jurisdiction over maritime cases because most of them are international law and the Town Court of Gloucester, Mass., is ill-equipped to deal with a prize case between an American pirate and a British shipowner.
Beartracks
(12,821 posts)OrangeJoe
(351 posts)With her mouth and attitude I predict her cellie is going to determine the rules while she's in the joint especially if she is held in the DC jail.
LudwigPastorius
(9,197 posts)she denied being part of the sovereign citizen movement."
She must be one of those Secret Sovereign Citizens.
They're like Secret Santas, except that they are delusional, entitled, assholes.
Wounded Bear
(58,751 posts)oh wait, I already know better.
bucolic_frolic
(43,375 posts)griloco
(832 posts)more dangerous than the sidewalks...
griloco
(832 posts)Just send her your thoughts...