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Nevilledog

(51,031 posts)
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:08 AM Sep 2021

Scientists created the world's whitest paint. It could eliminate the need for air conditioning.



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The whitest paint in the world has been created in a lab at Purdue University, a paint so white that it could eventually reduce or even eliminate the need for air conditioning, scientists say.

Scientists created the world's whitest paint. It could eliminate the need for air conditioning.
The world's whitest paint has been created in a lab at Purdue, a paint so white that it could eventually reduce the need for air conditioning.
usatoday.com
7:27 PM · Sep 17, 2021


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/09/17/whitest-paint-created-global-warming/8378579002/

The idea was to make a paint that would reflect sunlight away from a building.
The paint reflects 98.1% of solar radiation while also emitting infrared heat.

The whitest paint in the world has been created in a lab at Purdue University, a paint so white that it could eventually reduce or even eliminate the need for air conditioning, scientists say.

The paint has now made it into the Guinness World Records book as the whitest ever made.

So why did the scientists create such a paint? It turns out that breaking a world record wasn't the goal of the researchers: Curbing global warming was.

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Scientists created the world's whitest paint. It could eliminate the need for air conditioning. (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2021 OP
If they want to cool cities then wouldn't they BigmanPigman Sep 2021 #1
And paint all of the people white too... n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #3
Everything would need white... BigmanPigman Sep 2021 #6
No caraher Sep 2021 #18
It isn't the heat, it's the humidity... dixiegrrrrl Sep 2021 #37
The Greeks have been doing this a long time ornotna Sep 2021 #26
And The Air! ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #2
If only Christo were still alive. ornotna Sep 2021 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #17
Nah canetoad Sep 2021 #22
Here's a link to his last project - I was there last week and saw some of the preparations GoneOffShore Sep 2021 #25
that's really cool orleans Sep 2021 #4
I hear it's even whiter than Utah! TheBlackAdder Sep 2021 #47
omg! and utah can make you snowblind! orleans Sep 2021 #51
Given how snow blindness is a real phenomenon Moebym Sep 2021 #7
Roofs that nobody can see would work. Kablooie Sep 2021 #8
My roof is already white Dave says Sep 2021 #31
My inevitable immediate second thought. Perhaps people in Hortensis Sep 2021 #32
How durable is it though and what about when it gets dirty from things like pollen cstanleytech Sep 2021 #9
Even so, a most interesting approach! calimary Sep 2021 #13
Well there are a number of other potential methods to reduce the need cstanleytech Sep 2021 #14
See? More ideas and different approaches! calimary Sep 2021 #19
ugh. just keep it off woodwork please. pansypoo53219 Sep 2021 #10
Not sure this will cut it for menopausal women. nt chowder66 Sep 2021 #12
! :) Hortensis Sep 2021 #33
You could stick me next to an iceberg in the middle of a blizzard and I'd melt the iceberg. chowder66 Sep 2021 #41
Delightful memories. For my husband who took to Hortensis Sep 2021 #46
Lol! What a trooper. nt chowder66 Sep 2021 #50
the biggest challenge is how well it deflects smog/dirt/etc. cadoman Sep 2021 #15
Replace A/C? Ha, not unless it can can remove humidity too Shanti Shanti Shanti Sep 2021 #16
Yep, it's the humidity that kills me. Midnight Writer Sep 2021 #35
Yeah reduce the need for rather than eliminate. NT cinematicdiversions Sep 2021 #36
The power companies will shut that down fast. Demobrat Sep 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #21
...to reflect IR back into space. Only the GHGs will bounce it right back down and keep it trapped ffr Sep 2021 #23
You mean something like this? GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #29
A real place? druidity33 Sep 2021 #42
Yes, it is a real place. GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #45
I would love to see this kind of thing everywhere. smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #48
Me, too. It seems to be slowly catching on. GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #52
I am quite familiar with green roofs... druidity33 Sep 2021 #53
Whitest ever? They've never seen me dance Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2021 #24
LOL!!! nt Ilsa Sep 2021 #28
*snort* smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #49
I plead the 5th. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2021 #54
I suppose this might help in places where a "green" roof isn't possible. GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #27
Interesting. Elessar Zappa Sep 2021 #30
It will be named New Hampshire. SYFROYH Sep 2021 #34
I first moved to NH in the early 80s Silent3 Sep 2021 #40
Do they call it the Mike Pence shade? LiberatedUSA Sep 2021 #39
I heard they are going to call it Pat Boone dsc Sep 2021 #43
Hope they make better sunglasses to go with it. agalisgv Sep 2021 #44

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
1. If they want to cool cities then wouldn't they
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:30 AM
Sep 2021

need to paint all the asphalt streets and the rooftops as well as the buildings?

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
6. Everything would need white...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:01 AM
Sep 2021

from parking meters to signage, all the vehicles, etc. It is good in theory....

caraher

(6,278 posts)
18. No
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:15 AM
Sep 2021

This isn't about cooling the outdoors, it's about not needing electricity to cool indoor spaces (and thus avoid carbon emissions associated with generating the electricity).

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
37. It isn't the heat, it's the humidity...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 03:30 PM
Sep 2021


Actually, very much a truism.

If the paint keeps houses interiors cool by reflecting that much heat, where does the heated air go? Adding more hot air to a Southern summer is gonna increase humidity..and humidity is one reason for running A/C in the summer down here.

ornotna

(10,795 posts)
26. The Greeks have been doing this a long time
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 08:28 AM
Sep 2021

They do it to keep the homes a little cooler in the Mediterranean sun.

ProfessorGAC

(64,877 posts)
38. And The Air!
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 03:38 PM
Sep 2021

When it's hot in the city, it's hot on the golf course & corn fields that are 6 or 8 mikes from my house.
The air still gets hot, and we can't paint that white.
While this is a great idea & should allow for reduction in energy consumption for air conditioning, it's not going to eliminate A/C.
That's hyperbole, to put it nicely.

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canetoad

(17,137 posts)
22. Nah
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:37 AM
Sep 2021

Christo the installation wrap artist.

Look him up - something big is being wrapped in homage to him after his death. He did cool stuff.

Moebym

(989 posts)
7. Given how snow blindness is a real phenomenon
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:16 AM
Sep 2021

One wonders how broad the applications can realistically be for this white paint.

Dave says

(4,616 posts)
31. My roof is already white
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 08:48 AM
Sep 2021

It’s a 3 story residence with a white flat roof. The roof material is “TPO” mixed with white pigment. My electric bill is low.

I have a second home with a traditional shingled roof. The electric bill on this place is a whopper. It does have, note, lots and lots of windows.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. My inevitable immediate second thought. Perhaps people in
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 08:49 AM
Sep 2021

some areas that used it fairly extensively wouldn't venture out without the world's most protective vision shields.

I've heard about this before, though, and you just know it's going to be part of how we cool things. I love this kind of stuff.

cstanleytech

(26,248 posts)
9. How durable is it though and what about when it gets dirty from things like pollen
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:23 AM
Sep 2021

not to mention pollution that is the air?
After all as it accumulates layers on it of those things you would think it would lose its effectiveness.

calimary

(81,127 posts)
13. Even so, a most interesting approach!
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:57 AM
Sep 2021

Seems to me the more and different ways to approach the global warming challenge, the better. Why not? Different solutions for different countries, latitudes, altitudes, and other conditions and variables.

The combined applications might really move us forward. Many solutions. Many ideas. Many ways to override that all-yer-eggs-in-one-basket thing…

Why the heck not? What do we have to lose - besides maybe an extra degree or so of temperature increase?

I like it. I like that people are thinking about and through this problem and coming up with ideas.

cstanleytech

(26,248 posts)
14. Well there are a number of other potential methods to reduce the need
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:01 AM
Sep 2021

for air conditioning that might work better than paint such as building houses underground or with thick rammed earth walls rather than wood or brick.

calimary

(81,127 posts)
19. See? More ideas and different approaches!
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:18 AM
Sep 2021

The answer to the climate crisis is probably not a one-size-fits-all kind of thing.

chowder66

(9,055 posts)
41. You could stick me next to an iceberg in the middle of a blizzard and I'd melt the iceberg.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 04:10 PM
Sep 2021

Such fun!

cadoman

(792 posts)
15. the biggest challenge is how well it deflects smog/dirt/etc.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:03 AM
Sep 2021

There was a paint manufacturer in New Orleans that made a big deal about how great the white paint would be on the Superdome but the smog just piles up on it and they have to wash it all the time. Lawsuits have been going on it forever.

I'm not sure how they'll ever solve that issue. Think an easily washed and durable material is as much as you can hope for.

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ffr

(22,665 posts)
23. ...to reflect IR back into space. Only the GHGs will bounce it right back down and keep it trapped
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:41 AM
Sep 2021

So while this is progress. What really needs a cure, is something that sequesters carbon dioxide. Like something we all use on a daily basis that could take in CO2 and belch out oxygen on a continuous mass scale.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
45. Yes, it is a real place.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 05:49 PM
Sep 2021

This particular building is the ACROS Fukuoka Prefectural International Hall, located in Japan, but green roofs exist throughout the world, including every large city in the U.S. The greenery keeps the building cool, and in many places, they double as vegetable gardens. And, like all vegetation, it sequesters carbon

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
48. I would love to see this kind of thing everywhere.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 06:08 PM
Sep 2021

I think it's brilliant! I also believe that green space is healing for the human soul.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
52. Me, too. It seems to be slowly catching on.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:31 PM
Sep 2021

My favorite hockey team built a new practice facility/community center a few years ago. About half of it is covered with a green roof:
https://www.greenroofs.com/projects/fifth-third-arena-chicago-blackhawks-community-ice-arena/

Hundreds of others are being constructed in the US alone. Lots of vertical gardens, as well. The seem popular in Europe.

I agree. It's much better for the soul than is white paint.

druidity33

(6,445 posts)
53. I am quite familiar with green roofs...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:31 PM
Sep 2021

and have been fooled before by very clever digital renderings showing what a building COULD look like. I am also familiar with more than a few failed green roof experiments. Unfortunately it is a multi-million dollar endeavor and mostly a showpiece for governments and corporations (think LEED ratings). Just my 2 cents. Conceptually, of course i get it and in theory i agree it's a good idea.



GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
27. I suppose this might help in places where a "green" roof isn't possible.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 08:38 AM
Sep 2021

But, I'd rather see plants up there, rather than bare paint. And, how would the paint affect any solar panels that might be on the roof?

Silent3

(15,152 posts)
40. I first moved to NH in the early 80s
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 03:40 PM
Sep 2021

The state is probably still less diverse than many other states, but at least in southern NH it's a lot more diverse than when I first arrived.

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