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Shermann

(7,399 posts)
3. Fox News is pretty far down the reliability scale
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:36 AM
Sep 2021

What are you looking at?

Fox Business is ranked higher. Still pretty low for a business news source.

Ninga

(8,273 posts)
4. Politico and Newsweek are misplaced they need to move much more to the center right.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:52 AM
Sep 2021

The WSJ needs to move to skewing right.

Midnight Writer

(21,719 posts)
5. Newsweek skews left, Washington Monthly high variation in reliability?
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:53 AM
Sep 2021

There are a few positions on here I would disagree with.

Reason more reliable than Washington Monthly?

Sympthsical

(9,041 posts)
6. People aren't going to like this . . .
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:57 AM
Sep 2021

I've seen relatively unbiased news articles slammed as "right-wing" by virtue of just having information people's partisan sensibilities don't like. Hell, I got a hide for discussing an AP article once. "Right-wing talking points."

So this chart will go over well.

Still, just at a glance, most things seem about where I'd peg them.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
9. I really disagree with where the Reidout is placed. Yes, strong opinion
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:07 AM
Sep 2021

but guests and research have proved to be very reliable as far as fact checking goes.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
10. I take it with a grain of salt -- the whole thing is a subjective score.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:11 AM
Sep 2021
Overall news source scores are generated based on scores of individual articles. Each individual article is rated by least three human analysts balanced by left, right, and center self-reported political viewpoints. That is, at least one person who has rated the article self-identifies as being right-leaning, one as center, and one as left-leaning. Sometimes articles are rated by larger panels of analysts for various reasons.


That is from:

https://adfontesmedia.com/about-the-interactive-media-bias-chart/


You can imagine if we re-scored all this but only using DU members, the whole thing would shift right.

There is no attempt to look at the factuality of the articles, and subsequently identify misleading information as skewing left or right.

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
13. Is it the wisdom of the crowd
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:27 AM
Sep 2021

...or is it the majority fallacy?

I believe the wisdom of the crowd applies here. It is partly subjective, but not entirely. By using a statistical approach, they are trying to squeeze the objective data out of this big blob of pulp.

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
11. I posted this chart on a conservative forum a while back
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:18 AM
Sep 2021

I was asserting that MSNBC was biased to the left to a roughly similar degree as FXN was to the right, and that the rest of the MSM was getting lumped in with them in a misleading way. This assertion was rejected (surprise surprise). But you see, the media bias chart website includes their methodology. This demonstrates that at least there IS a tangible methodology employed. And, I am satisfied that an adequate amount of rigor was applied here. With a blowhard on a forum, not so much. So why should I care about their alternative analysis?

The interesting insight I gained was that the alternative news universe hasn't really developed a media bias reference like this, nor have they developed plausible fact-checking sites. They have alternative versions of everything else: business, politics, science, history, you name it. But they haven't cracked the code on this sort of thing.

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
12. Wow there's a bunch on here I've never heard of
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:19 AM
Sep 2021

I vow to stay above the yellow "Independent" line.

My normal preference is for the "skews left" or in some cases "hyper-partisan left."
Several in the middle region are also interesting reading.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
14. One weird thing
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:04 PM
Sep 2021

Right-wing types on Facebook constantly rail at how "liberal" CNN is. I got into a comment war with a couple of nimrods the other day about how there's no comparison, since they were saying that CNN is a left-wing version of Fox News. Funny how they never seem to care about MSNBC. Wonder why that is

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