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Prices have been going up, up, up. So I got a question to my fellow DU members. How do we fix this problem?
Irish_Dem
(46,797 posts)Clueless how to solve the problem.
multigraincracker
(32,658 posts)634-5789
(4,175 posts)When you go to a dealership, and the have 3 new cars, that's terrible, for the consumer, for the economy. It could be mid 2023 before we see a return to any kind of normality because of these chips...not ony used in vehicles, but also affects phones, IT devices, traffic lights, you name it!
underpants
(182,733 posts)Most all of tech has rebounded from the massive demand when everyone starting working from home. Laptops cameras etc. but not laptops because of the glass for the monitors. The problem is a lack of sand. Very specific round sand mostly from river beds. Localities have tightened (good) the amount that can be taken for environmental reasons.
The chip problem has to do with a fire in one of the three main production facilities in China. Also a draught has restricted water usage there too. It takes a tremendous amount of water to make chips. I could look it up but its comparable to the amount of water needed to make a pair of blue jeans and a (1) T-shirt. It talks 20,000 liters of water to make a pair of jeans and a T-shirt.
634-5789
(4,175 posts)MontanaMama
(23,301 posts)I could find nothing locally. I use Univision for basic support services and they were able to source a machine for me but it took over 3 weeks to get it partly because I wanted a 17 screen and also for the reasons you cite. I was afraid I wouldnt get one at all.
underpants
(182,733 posts)We are redoing our lobby at work adding new monitors and software. The contract was approved in August but the vendor wont be able to get the monitors and start work until probably Christmas time.
underpants
(182,733 posts)It was preached to us when I was getting my degree. It worked great until there were just a hiccup in one part of producing parts of pretty much anything. See my post here about water and microchips.
Also, trucking is at capacity. I know someone who works in the industry and the lighter then a truckload companies are cutting out unprofitable contracts. Those are mostly big big customers who they often lose money on. Rail is much cheaper and greener but its not point to point.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)As for us, our job is to elect people to government committed to making necessary improvements to and advances in infrastructure.
We already did that, of course, , so we'll be up to bat again November after next.
Other than that, shop early to give plenty of time? Be flexible? Shop for things that don't challenge the supply chain? Saying no to high-inflation items won't fix supply problems, but it'll help lower personal expenses.
Phoenix61
(16,999 posts)truck drivers but is it? "There is no shortage," says Todd Spencer, the president of the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association. His organization represents more than 150,000 mostly self-employed truck drivers around the United States. Their interest in improving the pay and livelihoods of their trucker members has long come into conflict with the interests of the ATA, (American Trucking Associations) which represents the big trucking companies.
Very interesting article.
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/05/25/999784202/is-there-really-a-truck-driver-shortage
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)A fragile arrangement of earth-killing machines and systems, maintained to support consumerism and unsustainable economic growth.
We ought to ask a different question.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Ron Green
(9,822 posts)Hard times are coming, and people ought to think more about the difference between money and wealth, and about the assumptions weve made as a species in building such a fragile false world for ourselves while damaging the real world that sustains us.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Things come in cycles.
And we have been living extremely well on the high side of the cycle for a long time.
I'm just saying that no one will choose it.
Poverty chooses us.
Hotler
(11,412 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)It won't solve raw materials shortages but ...
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)This.
If we manufactured more things here in the US/North America, the supply chains would not be stretched nearly so far. You know, the manufacturing that pays better than the retail point of sales jobs that pay minimum because they have to. Just in time supply chains means bare minimum supply. As the world sheltered in place and consumer patterns changed significantly the last two years, those controlling the world's supply of stuff slowed down, too. Seems they can't quite ramp up, and just in time is proving ot be nonsense, just like trickle down. It's OK if the hoi polloi is inconvenienced.
If we're going to be global community, then we need a lot more international cooperation rather than isolationism. Of course, the multinational conglomerates would have to stop their decades long push for global wage suppression. Of course, they could be deliberately slow to keep prices high, too.
Efilroft Sul
(3,578 posts)Let's start with production at Asian factories.
The countries our businesses have outsourced production to have outsourced work to other countries
China has outsourced component parts to Indonesia and Vietnam, and delta has caused many slowdowns
Fewer components from Indonesia and Vietnam = fewer finished products in China
Chips aren't the only shortage; two Japanese factory fires have reduced output of circuit boards and sensors
Those are just some manufacturing problems. Here are the shipping problems.
China closed Ningbo, the world's third-busiest container port, for two weeks when one worker tested positive
Shipping container costs from Shanghai to LA soared from $1300 in February 2020 to $7800 in August 2021
Bidding wars to secure space on cargo ships has led many exporters to cancel shipments
A MAJOR problem: There aren't enough shipping containers for North American and European routes
A glut of shipping containers are abandoned in less lucrative ports and rail yards in South America and Africa
Then there are dockside, stateside challenges.
The coronavirus has reduced the number of longshoremen
There is a high volume of imports coming in at LA and Long Beach but fewer workers to unload cargo quickly
Consequently, cargo ships sit off the coast for a week or more
If ships can't be unloaded in a timely manner, firms will cancel voyages and no products get delivered
That also means empty cargo containers aren't being fed back into the system, compounding problems
Trucking also took a hit. Its hiring problems existed before the virus, but the virus has made things worse.
Domestic shipping faces a trucker shortage, with there being 80,000 fewer drivers this year vs. 2020
Truckers are aging out, too, with 25% of all drivers being at least 55 years old
Since COVID-19 hit us last year, there has been a 40% decrease in driver training
Driver training classes are either smaller (for student/teacher safety) or licensing schools have shuttered
There were 14 million job openings for drivers in 2019, before COVID-19, but only 1.9 million hires
Fewer drivers = fewer goods moving overland to warehouses and store shelves
Lean Six Sigma, with its just-in-time delivery, was hit in its Achilles heel. Companies found out the hard way that Lean only works if manufactured products and their components are readily available which they are not, due to the spread of the virus and its impact on the global supply chain.
There is no quick fix to ending supply chain problems.
Shipping firms will have to pick up all those empty containers in the southern hemisphere, but they're making bank on what they have so long as their cargo can be offloaded in a timely manner in our west coast ports. Schools and trucking companies need to train and hire a lot of truckers stat, but that's clearly not in the cards. And companies should spend more on inventory to build resiliency into the system (and maybe move production back to the states) however, that requires many tigers running large businesses to change their stripes.
The root of the global supply chain breakdown, though, is the virus. We can't tackle individual issues with the supply chain unless everyone in the world is vaccinated as soon as is practicable. But how the vaccines are distributed and administered is yet another supply chain challenge.
Wicked Blue
(5,826 posts)There have been reports that more than 40-plus ships at a time have been waiting at major cargo ports to dock and be unloaded.
I'm not sure why. I've seen "lack of truck drivers' blamed, but I'm sure there is much more to this.
pwb
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