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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,968 posts)
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:53 PM Sep 2021

A $100 million loan on Trump Tower in Manhattan has been placed on a bank watch list, due to a slump

A $100 million loan on Donald Trump's Fifth Avenue tower has been placed on a debt watch list, according to data from banking giant, Wells Fargo.

Bloomberg first reported the story on Friday, noting that the decision was a result of "lower average occupancy."

Wells Fargo, which is the master servicer of the loan, said occupancy has dipped to 78.9% from 85.9% at the end of 2020, according to the outlet.

The building's real estate income was $33.7 million in 2020 and $7.5 million in the first quarter of this year, according to loan documents, Bloomberg noted.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/a-dollar100-million-loan-on-trump-tower-in-manhattan-has-been-placed-on-a-bank-watch-list-due-to-a-slump-in-occupancy-reports-say/ar-AAOA7a1

Is deadbeat Donny going to default again?

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A $100 million loan on Trump Tower in Manhattan has been placed on a bank watch list, due to a slump (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
i thought GMAC and General Electric own Trump tower in NYC? KentuckyWoman Sep 2021 #1
There Is This Me. Sep 2021 #3
I bet you that in real money that Hillary, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and Kamala Harris are all .... Botany Sep 2021 #2
Best Estimates Show... ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #8
I think it was @ his hotel in NYC or D.C. I read that if it was @ 100% occupancy getting the full Botany Sep 2021 #9
Given Wells Fargo's recent scandals central scrutinizer Sep 2021 #4
My thought, too Deuxcents Sep 2021 #5
Another Trump bankruptcy nears. sarcasmo Sep 2021 #6
Oh noes! marble falls Sep 2021 #7

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
1. i thought GMAC and General Electric own Trump tower in NYC?
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 12:59 PM
Sep 2021

I'm looking for the link and not finding it .... seems like I read they own it and Trump Org only manages.

I remember thinking as usual he takes the profit and not the risk.

Edit - the Wiki page said Trump owns his penthouse, the garage and the toilets in the lobby.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. There Is This
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:51 PM
Sep 2021

Trump Tower - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Trump_Tower

Trump Tower is a 58-floor, 664-foot-tall (202 m) mixed-use skyscraper at 721–725 Fifth Avenue in the Midtown Manhattan neighborhood of New York City, ...
Owner: GMAC Commercial Mortgage
Construction started: 1979
Cost: $300 million
Current tenants: The Trump Organization
‎Disambiguation · ‎Trump Tower wiretapping... · ‎Trump Tower Manila · ‎Meeting

Botany

(70,504 posts)
2. I bet you that in real money that Hillary, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and Kamala Harris are all ....
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:09 PM
Sep 2021

... worth more than TFG. Sure he has properties but how many are leveraged with multiple loans, how
many of his businesses are really making money, and how much does TFG owe to China, Saudi
Arabia, and Russia/Putin/Russian Mobster (see the Steele Dossier aka pee pee tapes)?

His whole life has been one big con job. And it took lots of help and Russian money (allegedly) to
prop him up to sell to a certain % of mouth breathers that he was a billionaire business wiz on
"The Apprentice.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
8. Best Estimates Show...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 03:19 PM
Sep 2021

...a debt:equity of 5, minimum. (MINIMUM)
The average in the commercial real estate industry is 0.87.
For a private company, owned essentially by one person, it suggests that the net worth of the owner is negative.
And, of course the orange idiot has 99% of his eggs in that one basket.
Any positive cash flow is the support of the lifestyle.
I know he'd use the excuse that he was POTUS, but observe not only zero growth since 2015, but retraction.
His idiot sons know less about business than he does (how is that possible?) and growth was always based on leverage.
Nobody will lend them money any longer, hence no growth.
In fact, all the continued grifting & "I got robbed" tantrums are about generating cash to cover interest on the existing oppressive debt load.
I'm going to agree with the assessment in your post title.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
9. I think it was @ his hotel in NYC or D.C. I read that if it was @ 100% occupancy getting the full
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 05:35 PM
Sep 2021

... rate* for every room and the restaurant was doing great the income produced was not enough to
cover the note. I look to see a fire sale on his properties very soon. The Russian mob and China will
want their money very soon.

BTW the Tump grift machine never had it so good as when TFG was in the White House. The mother fucker
had the military fly out of its way so they had to buy jet fuel from Trump and stay @ his ecological abortion of
a golf property in N.E. Scotland.

* very seldom do expensive hotels get their full rates for all their rooms

"growth was always based on leverage" Trump the Billionaire Business Genius was just like his I graduated
at the top of my class @ Wharton pure made up shit.

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