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napkinz

(17,199 posts)
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:10 AM Oct 2012

If Michelle Obama had gone on "The View" and said her husband was mentally unstable ...

1. Imagine if Michelle Obama had gone on "The View" and said of her husband:

"I walk into a room and I’m happy, then Barack dumps everything on me and I have to calm him down and stabilize him."

2. Imagine if the president's daughter had followed by saying of her father:

"You leave my dad alone for too long, he starts to get crazy so we need my mom to stabilize him."


Does anyone NOT think this would be a [font size="4"]HUGE[/font] story, one covered by ALL the network and cable news shows?




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If Michelle Obama had gone on "The View" and said her husband was mentally unstable ... (Original Post) napkinz Oct 2012 OP
yep. nt LaydeeBug Oct 2012 #1
And if he had a son who wanted to hit Rmoney aandegoons Oct 2012 #2
I wish JustAnotherGen Oct 2012 #57
I don't think she could pretend to have that low of an IQ. nt Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #62
No, let Bo go after Tagg napkinz Oct 2012 #63
Oh, that was a casual and good-natured joke jsr Oct 2012 #3
This double standard stuff just drives me crazy. enough Oct 2012 #4
what I don't understand, and what surprises me ... napkinz Oct 2012 #12
What is IOKIYAR? Brigid Oct 2012 #54
It's ok if you are a republican SalviaBlue Oct 2012 #65
I never knew that ... I would prefer napkinz Oct 2012 #69
Seems to be a different set of standards. Live and Learn Oct 2012 #5
No that is to make him look like Jimmy Carter rbrnmw Oct 2012 #20
When has Obama ever blamed the people for the economic situation? Live and Learn Oct 2012 #21
He hasn't but in a lot of people's minds rbrnmw Oct 2012 #22
Thanks for the explanation. Live and Learn Oct 2012 #23
nor do I understand their thinking rbrnmw Oct 2012 #33
btw the he was right about some of it rbrnmw Oct 2012 #34
Thanks, I had already looked it up and thought Live and Learn Oct 2012 #41
President Carter ... such gravitas ... and this guy wants to hold the same office ---> napkinz Oct 2012 #59
And few have read the "malaise speech" which was completely mischaracterized by the media. Zen Democrat Oct 2012 #51
the media's "binder full of missing stories" napkinz Oct 2012 #24
The media would be all over it like flies on shit. CrispyQ Oct 2012 #6
I really thought Rachel, Tweety, Ed, and Lawrence would cover the story napkinz Oct 2012 #15
Mitt is unstable. He sees the role of women as being in the home to serve the needs of men. AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2012 #7
that is such a good example of what's wrong Whisp Oct 2012 #8
anyone know which so said that? madrchsod Oct 2012 #9
That was his son Tagg napkinz Oct 2012 #26
thanks.... madrchsod Oct 2012 #30
the look in Romney's eyes are those of a deranged man rbrnmw Oct 2012 #35
ya think ... napkinz Oct 2012 #36
YES it would. Just like those Romney/Bain-connected voting machines ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #10
which is why I say our media is no different than Baghdad Bob 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #13
You won't get any argument from me about that! n/t ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #14
plus he supposedly had a nervous break down 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #11
Imagine his mental state had he actually had to be - not in France - but in ACTUAL COMBAT! We People Oct 2012 #17
+1! Cha Oct 2012 #46
Yup! ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #66
they should just go back to France! napkinz Oct 2012 #27
lol 2pooped2pop Oct 2012 #40
The Coneheads! Brigid Oct 2012 #55
they are from Remulak ... I mean napkinz Oct 2012 #56
Imagine if Obama had said, "I have Michelle. Mitt has Paul Ryan" lunatica Oct 2012 #16
"He would have been lynched for insulting the white woman Ann Romney." I'm giving your 2nd sentence AnotherMother4Peace Oct 2012 #19
actually, Mitt has Grover napkinz Oct 2012 #28
I used Paul Ryan because of the name recognition lunatica Oct 2012 #37
He's the man behind the curtain, pulling the strings ... napkinz Oct 2012 #39
25th Amendment, Sect. 4 mentalsolstice Oct 2012 #18
Yea, I was thinking the same thing. dmr Oct 2012 #31
And who would President Ryan choose as his Vice-President? napkinz Oct 2012 #32
well, cheney chose himself shanti Oct 2012 #38
What is it about us that we ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2012 #25
She's Ann Romney, THE STABILIZER! napkinz Oct 2012 #29
Yeah but Romney is a Republican and made entirely of pure 100% unadulturated excrement aint_no_life_nowhere Oct 2012 #42
Of course it would Catherine Vincent Oct 2012 #43
I just saw your OP, napkinz.. I actually just said something like that Cha Oct 2012 #44
re la "Dean's Scream" napkinz Oct 2012 #47
CNN tape loop. Like the 'Dean Scream' upi402 Oct 2012 #45
posted by Oilwellian napkinz Oct 2012 #49
Good one. ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #67
posted by Kossack napkinz Oct 2012 #60
Ann Romney says her husband is nuts... kentuck Oct 2012 #48
the MSM has totally ignored this STORY napkinz Oct 2012 #52
they called Al Gore crazy for growing a beard Enrique Oct 2012 #50
Dean screamed, Al grew a beard napkinz Oct 2012 #53
Yes it would be treestar Oct 2012 #58
And threatening "to take a swing" would too napkinz Oct 2012 #61
Is Mitt Romney Mentally Ill? napkinz Oct 2012 #64
+1000 ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #68
the religious right should go back to their scripture for a clue about their candidate napkinz Oct 2012 #70
If Obama orders a CHEESEBURGER it's the lead story on every cable news show Amerigo Vespucci Oct 2012 #71
And if he had salad and used French or Italian dressing napkinz Oct 2012 #72
napkinz! I totally missed this thread! Oilwellian Oct 2012 #73
Congratulations! napkinz Oct 2012 #74

aandegoons

(473 posts)
2. And if he had a son who wanted to hit Rmoney
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:13 AM
Oct 2012

It would have been the end of this election. The media is so fucked up in this country it's infuriating.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
57. I wish
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 10:11 AM
Oct 2012

The Campaign would turn Sasha loose on Tagg. Seriously - I think she's a cute little smart ass.

Oh yeah - my dad is bigger than your dad.
Oh yeah? Well I grew up in Chicago playing in the snow and my old man says if you stick your tongue on a mailbox. . .
Oh yeah? I bet you can't fit in the cabinets in my dad's desk in the Oval Office?
Oh yeah? I bet I have more friends than you.


Half joking - but that's what that asshole sounded like. An eleven year old little girl who it is understandable if she says things like that.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
63. No, let Bo go after Tagg
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 04:05 PM
Oct 2012

Then again, the president might find Bo tied to the top of Tagg's car.

(The rotten apple doesn't fall far from the tree.)




jsr

(7,712 posts)
3. Oh, that was a casual and good-natured joke
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:15 AM
Oct 2012

I'm sure that's how they'd explain it at every opportunity.

enough

(13,259 posts)
4. This double standard stuff just drives me crazy.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:16 AM
Oct 2012

I can't decide whether it's white privilege or IOKIYAR. Both I suppose.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
12. what I don't understand, and what surprises me ...
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:27 AM
Oct 2012

... why haven't Rachel, Ed, Lawrence or Tweety discussed this on their shows?????

The way Lawrence went after Tagg for threatening to punch the president, I just don't understand why he didn't pick up on this story about what Ann said of her husband on "The View."

What is going on!



Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
5. Seems to be a different set of standards.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:17 AM
Oct 2012

Last edited Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Suppose Obama wouldn't show his tax returns, would we ever hear the end of it? Look how the harp on the Libya brouhaha as if anyone really cares when someone called it a terrorist act. This is their ridiculous form of revenge because Obama has been so strong on foreign policy that they have nothing else.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
20. No that is to make him look like Jimmy Carter
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 11:13 AM
Oct 2012

who had buried himself not by how he handled Iran really but by the speech he made that republicans and even some democrats condemned saying basically he was blaming the American People for the stagnant economy They called it the Malaise Speech and it sunk President Carter's chances for reelection

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
22. He hasn't but in a lot of people's minds
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 11:26 AM
Oct 2012

That don't remember or never knew they blame the loss of President Carter's Reelection on the Iran Hostage situation saying it was because he was weak on FP and didn't negotiate the Hostage situation well I'll give them some voters may have voted against him for that but it was mostly because of the Malaise Speech. I was giving my perception as a person who was alive then and remembers 1980 well.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
23. Thanks for the explanation.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 11:42 AM
Oct 2012

I still don't understand the leap in logic but then again, I don't understand a lot about how that side thinks so you may be right.

I am not familiar with the speech you are referring to. Guess it is time to learn something and look it up. Thank you.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
41. Thanks, I had already looked it up and thought
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:26 PM
Oct 2012

that it really was a nice speech. But I guess asking any of us to park our cars for a day or give up much of anything is not something a lot of us want to do.

In fact, it ticks me off whenever the Republicans say it. Of course, that is because they mean we should do all the giving while they do all the taking.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
51. And few have read the "malaise speech" which was completely mischaracterized by the media.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:33 AM
Oct 2012

Not only did Carter never use the the word "malaise" but the speech was more a call to arms regarding ENERGY! The media were whores for the Republicans during Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama .... behold the myth of a liberal press, it's actually the truth of the corporate thumb on the scale.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
6. The media would be all over it like flies on shit.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:18 AM
Oct 2012

Wolf Blitzer's head would be spinning like Linda Blair's did in The Exorcist.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
15. I really thought Rachel, Tweety, Ed, and Lawrence would cover the story
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:47 AM
Oct 2012

I don't understand why they're not discussing it. The MSNBC evening shows in the past have done a good job covering the important stories ignored by the mainstream media.

Scratching my head in utter disbelief.







 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
8. that is such a good example of what's wrong
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:23 AM
Oct 2012

are any of the commentators/pundits saying this, and saying this often and loud enough for people to get it?

somehow I doubt it.
o yah, but they are just 'commentator's, it's not their job right? so some people say. They just get paid for their opinions.

well, whose job is it then?
who is there to prevent this kind of double standard, or at least to show it's ugliness in the proper light?

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
9. anyone know which so said that?
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:24 AM
Oct 2012

isn`t he the one that mr `i`m going to punch the president`is always beating up on...?

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
26. That was his son Tagg
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:30 PM
Oct 2012



Transcript:

RADIO HOST: I’m gonna ask something I know a lot of people want to know, or at least I do. What it is like for you to hear the President of the United States call your dad a liar. How do you react to that?

TAGG ROMNEY: Uh, you know, uh, well, jump out of your seat, and you want to rush down there to the debate stage and take a swing at him. But you know you can’t do that, because um, well first because there’s a lot of Secret Service between you and him…”

http://front.moveon.org/whoa-tagg-romney-caught-on-tape-saying-he-wanted-to-take-a-swing-at-the-president/




ProfessionalLeftist

(4,982 posts)
10. YES it would. Just like those Romney/Bain-connected voting machines
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:24 AM
Oct 2012

--if owned by or directly connected to Obama as they are Romney - would cause a HUGE scandal and completely discredit Obama. But when voting machines are connected to Romney, they instead refuse to report on it.

IntereSTINK.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
13. which is why I say our media is no different than Baghdad Bob
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:28 AM
Oct 2012

Well, except Baghdad Bob was reporting in support of his country while I see our media as being traitorous to our country. They direct the country in the wrong direction by what they report and what they ignore.

All should face treason charges and the penalty is apt.

mainstream media liars cheaters, republican enablers. Traitors.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
11. plus he supposedly had a nervous break down
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:24 AM
Oct 2012

back in college days that he had to be hospitalized for. This was supposedly because Ann had promised to wait for him and began dating someone else.

I think this was from the book The Real Romney. I found part of the story in a bullcrap story that Ann had cheated. Bullcrap because it was way back then. But then recently I saw a post where Ann had said that Rmoney had to be hospitalized for it. I will try to find it for you.

It was a long time ago but does add to his mental wellness issue. It seems like when he doesn't get his way, the spoiled brat comes out and can't cope because he is not used to not getting his way.

We do not want this loose cannon in charge.

We People

(619 posts)
17. Imagine his mental state had he actually had to be - not in France - but in ACTUAL COMBAT!
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:52 AM
Oct 2012

Or if suddenly he'd lost all his fortune and advantages in life. I seriously doubt he'd have been able to make it.

Poor Mitt. In either case, he probably would have ended up in a permanent straight jacket.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
16. Imagine if Obama had said, "I have Michelle. Mitt has Paul Ryan"
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:51 AM
Oct 2012

He would have been lynched for insulting the white woman Ann Romney.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,247 posts)
19. "He would have been lynched for insulting the white woman Ann Romney." I'm giving your 2nd sentence
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 11:06 AM
Oct 2012

a headline, because that is exactly what would have happened.

mentalsolstice

(4,461 posts)
18. 25th Amendment, Sect. 4
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 10:59 AM
Oct 2012

I think this is already being planned in many Republican back rooms, and the M$M and pundits are salivating over the possibility. Just think of the news cycles. We could be looking at having a Ryan presidency within the first year of the administration.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
25. What is it about us that we
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 12:05 PM
Oct 2012

cannot blow their failings into a huge deal like they can do with almost anything about us?

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
42. Yeah but Romney is a Republican and made entirely of pure 100% unadulturated excrement
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 09:57 PM
Oct 2012

and the American media adores and worships excrement.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
44. I just saw your OP, napkinz.. I actually just said something like that
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 02:19 AM
Oct 2012

on another thread..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1591578

You have to see the OP here.. " Mitt Sanity (Video) - Various comments about Mitt's emotional well-being by his Own family..

A Vid made by DUer Oilwellian!

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
52. the MSM has totally ignored this STORY
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:34 AM
Oct 2012

You have the wife of a candidate for president TWICE now saying her husband is mentally unstable. I can't for the life of me understand why they're not covering it.

But what really bothers me is that you used to be able to count on the MSNBC evening shows to cover important stories being ignored by the MSM.

Rachel ... Ed ... Lawrence ... Tweety ... Hello????





napkinz

(17,199 posts)
53. Dean screamed, Al grew a beard
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 09:44 AM
Oct 2012

The MSM had a field day with those stories, casting doubt on the sanity of Governor Dean and Vice-President Gore.

But Governor Romney's wife TWICE SAYS that her husband is mentally unstable ... and that they completely ignore.





napkinz

(17,199 posts)
61. And threatening "to take a swing" would too
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 12:39 PM
Oct 2012

You know the media would play up the "angry black male" stereotype.






napkinz

(17,199 posts)
64. Is Mitt Romney Mentally Ill?
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:23 PM
Oct 2012
Is Mitt Romney Mentally Ill?

October 15th, 2012
by Rmuse

During an important election to decide the fate and direction of a country, a voter is likely to consider a candidate’s consistency of actions, values, methods, principles, and expectations, as well as outcomes from previous experience in political office before supporting a candidate. Many voters contemplate a candidate’s honesty and truthfulness, or accuracy of actions, before deciding to cast their vote, and few would choose a candidate renowned for lies and hypocrisy because it defines the candidate as morally deficient with anti-social tendencies. Americans are witnessing a morally deficient candidate for the presidency, and if it is not obvious by now that Willard Mitt Romney is a pathological liar, a hypocrite, and deceitful in words and deeds, it is about time his possible mental illness, Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASP), is exposed to the American people.

An individual suffering from ASP is calculating, manipulative, frequently charming and alluring, and fits the clinical portrait matching depictions of con artists and predators found in literature, and is masterful at using machinations of a criminal who fails to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors. Some criteria psychologists use to diagnose ASP are deceitfulness, as indicated by repeatedly lying, conning others for personal profit, and lacking remorse or rationalizing having caused harm. Besides persistent lying, Romney demonstrates an innate inability to care about harming others borne out of narcissism, elevated self-worth, and a sense of extreme entitlement and cannot tolerate authority figures. If these criteria seem suspiciously similar to convicted felons and life-criminals, it is because over one-third of the prison population suffers from different degrees of ASP and, like Romney, they have a childhood history of the disorder.

Over the course of the campaign, stories of Willard’s childhood bullying and disregard for people other than himself abound, and besides chasing and holding down a gay classmate and cutting his hair, there are other instances of his disregard for others. Romney’s impersonating a police officer is not just a prank, and victims of Romney’s faux law enforcement attention may have a different opinion of his behavior that contradicts the portrait of the squeaky-clean Mormon boy. Indeed, Romney carried his disregard for young Americans into college when he protested in favor of sending young men to fight and die in Viet Nam while his “religious” deferments allowed him to luxuriate in a French castle while he proselytized French people into his cult.

Willard carried his disregard for other people with him to Bain Capital where he repeatedly lied and conned unwitting companies and shareholders into believing that, under Bain management, their firms would flourish only to end up in bankruptcy as Romney and his partners pillaged their assets, shuttered businesses, and raided employee’s pensions all for personal profit. Romney’s narcissism drives him to claim he saved the Salt Lake City Olympics, but he is remiss to give credit to the American taxpayer who funded his efforts to the tune of $1.5 billion, and then destroyed records to conceal malfeasance and cronyism related to his Mormon business associates. He continued covering tracks at the end of his failed term as Massachusetts governor when he charged taxpayers for wiping computers to conceal internal correspondence, and his bankruptcy gang repeated the cover-up practice by destroying books and records in the eToys bankruptcy between 1999 and 2001. Old habits die hard, but especially when they are borne of a cognitive disorder like ASP.


Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/mitt-romney-mentally-ill.html




Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
71. If Obama orders a CHEESEBURGER it's the lead story on every cable news show
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 08:32 AM
Oct 2012

"President OBAMA...eating a CHEESEBURGER...while America SUFFERS. Tonight, on a very special "Hannity"..."

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
72. And if he had salad and used French or Italian dressing
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 09:52 AM
Oct 2012

News Alert: Barack Obama is sooooo European! He's so OTHER! He's not one of us!

Rethugs would start demanding we use Freedom Dressing! (if anyone remembers Freedom Fries a few years back)




Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
73. napkinz! I totally missed this thread!
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 11:42 AM
Oct 2012

LOL You're as obsessed on this issue as I am. The video is taking off. There are 3,535 direct YouTube views and 1,678 embedded views. I'm still waiting for the stats to come in, showing where those embeds are. Thank you so much for all you've done to push this story and the video. It's all worthwhile if it gives pause to any undecideds that may still be out there. Thank you to ALL DUers for their support in getting this story out.

Before the election is over, this video may push me to an overall million viewer landmark on YouTube. I will be totally psyched if that happens. Today will tell a lot as to whether it really takes off to at least the 25-30 thousand viewer level within the next few days. I hope it continues to gain momentum.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
74. Congratulations!
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 02:18 PM
Oct 2012

Your video is just what the doctor ordered ... in this case, a psychiatrist!

If Michelle Obama had made the same remarks about her husband, every network and cable news show, every newspaper would be ALL OVER IT!

How this story is not getting convered is unbelievable.

That the MSM is not covering it is unconscionable.

Is there any way you can get Rachel, Ed, Lawrence or Tweety to view your video?

Someone has to get the ball rolling on this.

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If you have a chance, keep these other threads dealing with Mitt's mental instability kicked:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021577258 Josh Romney on stabilizing his dad

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021573494 Ann and Josh on Mitt's mental state

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021580700 Mitt's mental health

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021583552 Ann has to explain further re Mitt

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021577314 binders full of Mitt's mental health records



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