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George II

(67,782 posts)
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:02 PM Sep 2021

BOMBSHELL: Designer of AOC's 'Tax The Rich' Met Gala Dress Owes Over $100K in Back Taxes

Proving irony never goes out of style, Aurora James, the designer of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ (D-NY) viral “Tax the Rich” Met Gala gown, is a tax deadbeat herself, according to a report by the New York Post.

James is “a notorious tax deadbeat with unpaid debts dogging her in multiple states,” reported the Post, digging up records that show six IRS tax liens totaling $103,220 on the parent company of her fashion brand, three open tax warrants in New York State for failing to withhold $14,798 in income taxes from employee paychecks (plus twelve other since-resolved NY tax warrants), and a $17,000 fine for failing to carry worker’s compensation insurance.

She’s also a rent deadbeat, the Post claims, describing an eviction action by James’ previous landlord — along with a demand for more than $25,000 plus interest for staying beyond her lease. The case was settled for an undisclosed amount.

Another previous landlord reportedly sued James for more $5,000 in unpaid rent, sending her a letter complaining that she had “never have paid your rent in a timely manner.”


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BOMBSHELL: Designer of AOC's 'Tax The Rich' Met Gala Dress Owes Over $100K in Back Taxes (Original Post) George II Sep 2021 OP
ROFL treestar Sep 2021 #1
It really is hilarious madville Sep 2021 #166
If this is true, I fully support the NY Post... Enter stage left Sep 2021 #2
I suspect that Mediaite wouldn't have reported this if it wasn't true. George II Sep 2021 #3
Mediate wouldn't have ran the story if it wasn't true. Budi Sep 2021 #53
There is nothing contained that shows they did anything to independently confirm. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #59
Nor anything implying they didn't FBaggins Sep 2021 #205
You have a very low threshold for good journalism it would appear and yes, they do state hlthe2b Sep 2021 #207
Linking directly to government documents doesn't qualify in your book? FBaggins Sep 2021 #208
NY Post did none of that and that is who they cited. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #209
Untrue FBaggins Sep 2021 #210
Wow.. and AOC is all over those documents!!!! NOT hlthe2b Sep 2021 #211
Worried about your transmission FBaggins Sep 2021 #212
Perhaps you should slow down and define "geats"... hlthe2b Sep 2021 #213
The OP is about the designer of AOC's dress FBaggins Sep 2021 #214
And that is being used to attack an elected Dem by association--all from a RW rag reporting hlthe2b Sep 2021 #217
Who cares. Ellipsis Sep 2021 #4
I do and you should as well. sheshe2 Sep 2021 #6
DU Rules, and I quote AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #40
LOL. I'm sure your are. Budi Sep 2021 #54
Meaning? I'm attacking a Democrat? I'm peddling NY Post right wing attacks? AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #139
Actually the OP was 'peddling' Mediate. Budi Sep 2021 #192
"I am instantly suspect." betsuni Sep 2021 #60
Explain the laughter. AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #140
The "no bashing" rule... FBaggins Sep 2021 #153
It's only being reported by the NY Post AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #159
Untrue FBaggins Sep 2021 #170
IT was originally reported in the NY Post. That's the right wing smear machine AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #171
So? If they report the weather do we need to ignore it FBaggins Sep 2021 #176
But they didn't report the weather. It was just another hit piece FlyingPiggy Sep 2021 #235
As someone pointed out, the information is public. Treefrog Sep 2021 #195
She probably wasn't aware. Who would be? I certainly don't get tax records FlyingPiggy Sep 2021 #236
Auto-Kill the Messenger. betsuni Sep 2021 #287
The hypocrisy was by Aurora James, the designer. speak easy Sep 2021 #70
As is my point. AOC is being attacked for buying a dress from a tax cheat AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #138
Where and how is she being attacked? This is about the designer who apparently.... George II Sep 2021 #148
I ask you to read response #143 AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #155
The word BOMBSHELL refers to the news about the designer, Aurora James.... George II Sep 2021 #169
Mediate sourced the NY Post. I am instantly suspicious and since I won't waste bandwidth AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #172
What utter bullshit Voltaire2 Sep 2021 #224
Please point to where in the OP AOC is being attacked mcar Sep 2021 #227
Aurora James is not JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #73
Thank you. Treefrog Sep 2021 #97
This seems like an attack on AOC with guilt by association being the way it's done AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #136
Haha ! "Guilt by association" is all we've heard since Nixie Sep 2021 #146
At least she didn't wear a tan suit AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #150
"Pay your taxes". Lol, you just know that's how it Nixie Sep 2021 #152
And the sad thing is, alot of DUers in this thread are doing the right wing NY Post's bidding AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #157
No, the sad thing is that the original message was also Nixie Sep 2021 #163
That too. And DU rules state don't attack Democrats and don't peddle RW smears AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #164
That's why the attacks on Democrats are being avenged Nixie Sep 2021 #167
+1 betsuni Sep 2021 #279
I'm not seeing that JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #247
There is also a rule concerning moderation...suggest you might want to read it. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #117
Post removed Post removed Sep 2021 #232
The billionaires owe way more malaise Sep 2021 #63
But let's concentrate on the designer of the dress of the person who is the loudest about that AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #161
You sure cared enough jml510 Sep 2021 #283
Designer must have known this would come out mcar Sep 2021 #5
Have you seen the design? nocoincidences Sep 2021 #7
Kardashian motto: All press is good press!! Budi Sep 2021 #198
Since AOC sells "Tax the Rich" sweatshirts in her merch shop, it was her idea to put betsuni Sep 2021 #19
That's the part I don't get mcar Sep 2021 #228
It doesn't make any sense. And here's a new designer's big break, the Met gala, betsuni Sep 2021 #242
True. nt mcar Sep 2021 #243
partying with the rich and famous while the peasants protest outside. bad look nt msongs Sep 2021 #8
I agree, a publicity stunt that appears to have backfired PatSeg Sep 2021 #92
Hmmm sheshe2 Sep 2021 #9
Thanks for that. Actually, the bit about the inter-company squabble pales in comparison to.... George II Sep 2021 #11
Yes, the hypocrisy. sheshe2 Sep 2021 #12
why ,trump family get's their garbage from china - "WTF " ? monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #44
Perhaps she doesn't consider herself rich. Igel Sep 2021 #68
If Fox or the Post asked me to comment, I wouldn't either AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #37
The dress was hideous, but most of the dresses at the gala were weird and awful. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #10
Downright FUGLY. 3catwoman3 Sep 2021 #31
Yeah, it really was pretty awful PatSeg Sep 2021 #95
Sorry. I am not blown to bits. blogslug Sep 2021 #13
I'm not blown to bits either, but it's ironic that a rich woman who designs a "Tax the Rich" dress.. George II Sep 2021 #14
And uncovering that fact will bring another few rounds of attention to the issue blogslug Sep 2021 #16
jeeze ! monkeyman1 Sep 2021 #46
Yeah but it is like hiring OJ as a domestic violence cinematicdiversions Sep 2021 #35
hardly blogslug Sep 2021 #49
Wow. That is not at all similar, actually. yardwork Sep 2021 #83
You are hiring someone who is richa nd not paying her taxes to make your tax the rich dress? cinematicdiversions Sep 2021 #85
You're comparing not paying taxes to murder. It's not in the same neighborhood. yardwork Sep 2021 #86
Bad look redstateblues Sep 2021 #15
Not relevant and not ironic. No more than a taxi driver taking people to a renewable Doodley Sep 2021 #17
Yep Bettie Sep 2021 #20
if a bombshell falls in the forest and no one cares, is it still a bombshell TomDaisy Sep 2021 #18
!! progressoid Sep 2021 #262
People who don't pay taxes or their bills when there is no reason not to have a character flaw. madaboutharry Sep 2021 #21
If someone were to look into it closely Bettie Sep 2021 #125
Undefund the IRS! JHB Sep 2021 #22
Millionares & Billionares Baby!! Budi Sep 2021 #23
After 2017 millionaires okay, billionaires still very bad. betsuni Sep 2021 #25
There's a fine line between advocacy & bullshit apparantly. Budi Sep 2021 #27
Wait, what, a wealthy fashion designer turns out to be a tax cheating hypocrite? Say it ain't so!! Bucky Sep 2021 #24
How is this on AOC? As a customer, you don't ask about the business's financial situation AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #26
Ffs. Budi Sep 2021 #28
I am confused by your response AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #32
It's not on AOC at all, and attempts to smear her with it are pathetic whathehell Sep 2021 #51
I agree. How was AOC supposed to know that the designer owes taxes? yardwork Sep 2021 #77
Agreed, expecting AOC to be aware of or seek out this person's owed taxes/rent is unrealistic. Jedi Guy Sep 2021 #82
Have To Disagree Me. Sep 2021 #141
That's fair, I suppose. They know what kind of scrutiny she's under. Jedi Guy Sep 2021 #156
+1 Me. Sep 2021 #174
That would be true if she just purchased the dress from her FBaggins Sep 2021 #165
Oh FFS keep reaching for an excuse to destroy progress. berni_mccoy Sep 2021 #280
"destroy progress" how? betsuni Sep 2021 #284
What a laughable response (and ridiculous implied definition for "progress") FBaggins Sep 2021 #285
The definition of "progressive" meaning the Democratic Party isn't progressive, betsuni Sep 2021 #286
Good grief (n/t) Patton French Sep 2021 #29
Ahhhhahahahaha....Why didn't you link to the original article? progressoid Sep 2021 #30
Does that make the report not true? Treefrog Sep 2021 #34
Maybe because NY Post is the written form of Fox News AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #36
So you don't believe all this info about the woman being a tax deadbeat? Treefrog Sep 2021 #62
I'm not listening to a right wing Newspaper's use of that article to attack a strong Democratic AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #142
Don't know. progressoid Sep 2021 #42
The tax documents are publically available. lapucelle Sep 2021 #96
+1000 sheshe2 Sep 2021 #114
TY for the Research! Cha Sep 2021 #233
+1 betsuni Sep 2021 #249
Great info, lapucelle! Always appreciate your posts. Nixie Sep 2021 #255
I've been behind on my taxes in the past too. Not like her or Stacey Abrams or Willie Nelson but progressoid Sep 2021 #261
This isn't just being behind on taxes like it was an oversight or an error.... George II Sep 2021 #293
not to change the subject but... orleans Sep 2021 #48
AOC orangecrush Sep 2021 #33
She wasn't in the same building. Budi Sep 2021 #108
She didn't "narrowly escape", but that's an entirely different subject.... George II Sep 2021 #145
Post removed Post removed Sep 2021 #281
Legislative branch passes laws. Executive branch enforces them. RockRaven Sep 2021 #38
I knew, before I clicked on this, that it was posted by one of 3 people. Ron Green Sep 2021 #39
!!! BradAllison Sep 2021 #41
LOL leftstreet Sep 2021 #47
Who are the other two? George II Sep 2021 #69
One of 'em is posting in this thread. Ron Green Sep 2021 #175
There are 68 people in this thread, so that narrows it down. So, you said something you're not.... George II Sep 2021 #187
You're right. Ron Green Sep 2021 #229
Yup Voltaire2 Sep 2021 #225
DU Rules: AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #43
The article is about the designer of the dress, not about AOC. Tomconroy Sep 2021 #55
Since it's from NY Post, you know exactly why this was called "BOMBSHELL." AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #143
"Designer of AOC". Voltaire2 Sep 2021 #226
Now please finish the headline. TIA... George II Sep 2021 #253
At least own posting a right-wing hit piece Sympthsical Sep 2021 #45
Very disappointing wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #50
Only if it's quoted from Daily Kos first Sympthsical Sep 2021 #90
Really, I have seen some of your poses about other Democrats...but now you are disappointed. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #120
I don't quote rightwing sources wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #180
Really? Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #181
Everyone is free to check wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #182
I bet I could find something. However, I would rather watch football...just saying after some of Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #184
So I *don't* quote rightwing sources wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #194
Claims you post rightwing hit pieces. Voltaire2 Sep 2021 #250
Lulz. George II Sep 2021 #252
These aren't right wing sources: George II Sep 2021 #251
Rightwing sources think this is newsworthy wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #257
They're not the only ones who think it's newsworth. George II Sep 2021 #258
Literally only the Post is reporting this wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #259
Now do the ones about Stacey Abrams progressoid Sep 2021 #264
Why? George II Sep 2021 #266
We need more bombshells about people who don't pay their taxes! progressoid Sep 2021 #268
I agree. If we're going to be serious about "Tax the Rich", we should make sure those rich.... George II Sep 2021 #269
You agree? Good, then do Stacey Abrams. progressoid Sep 2021 #272
Why progressoid? Was Stacey Abrams delinquent in her taxes more than a dozen or more times? George II Sep 2021 #274
Oh, I didn't know the goalposts for being delinquent was 12 or more. progressoid Sep 2021 #276
Is the NY Post story wrong then? Is Politico RW as well, now under their new mgmt?. Budi Sep 2021 #52
Speaking of transparent n/t Sympthsical Sep 2021 #91
LOL that's not an answer, that's an insult Budi Sep 2021 #99
Trying to drag Bernie into a right-wing hit job Sympthsical Sep 2021 #109
Oh please... you brought his name into this, not me. Budi Sep 2021 #111
This is Democratic Underground...it is a site for Democrats...many perhaps most are liberal and Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #121
This whole thread rebukes your response Sympthsical Sep 2021 #173
Oh please. Bernie is not an elected Democrat, and that is Nixie Sep 2021 #179
Bingo! Sympthsical Sep 2021 #186
Tax the Rich is from Bernie's campaign, so if you want bingo, Nixie Sep 2021 #199
Really? I believe it was your own post #109 that invoked Sen Sanders' name Budi Sep 2021 #246
Some Democrats? Both Manchin and Sinema have been savaged here as was Biden for Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #183
The Mediaite article is about a dress designer, not an elected official. As far as I can see.... George II Sep 2021 #204
Mediaite is not a right wing media outlet, quite the opposite. That is indicated in the OP. George II Sep 2021 #245
And Democrats 💙 Budi Sep 2021 #189
Try as I might, I can't find anyone mentioning Sanders before you did. Not even subtle hints. George II Sep 2021 #305
I've seen her before. maybe on a fashion show to help struggling fashion designers. She was prob Demovictory9 Sep 2021 #56
LOL at Kill the Messenger attempts. Holding feet to the fire suddenly not a thing! betsuni Sep 2021 #57
I'm sorry... While I may not be the biggest AOL fan, how is this on her? Smear by association? hlthe2b Sep 2021 #61
What? Suddenly who you associate with doesn't count? Why not? betsuni Sep 2021 #64
??? hlthe2b Sep 2021 #65
LOL betsuni Sep 2021 #66
again, ??? hlthe2b Sep 2021 #67
Because wealthy donors who gave the legal limit to Democrats are accused of betsuni Sep 2021 #72
I think if you would comment in complete thoughts instead of twitter type phrases, hlthe2b Sep 2021 #74
Personal insult! LOL betsuni Sep 2021 #75
Not at all. I am trying to help you be better understood and be able to do so with your comments hlthe2b Sep 2021 #78
"I am trying to help you be better understood and be able to do so with your comments myself." betsuni Sep 2021 #79
Seriously, I read all your posts...and love ya...but the above post was seriously condescending. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #123
A response limited to "duh" from the other poster incited my comment. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #124
You mean my comment that wealthy donors giving legal limits are accused of corrupting betsuni Sep 2021 #275
It sure seemed like it counted when she gave that speech to Budi Sep 2021 #105
That was constant, key to her fictional corruption. And photos of her with Kissinger as somehow betsuni Sep 2021 #282
George, it isn't mediate that is the source of this, it is the NYPOST--a defnitive RW rag hlthe2b Sep 2021 #58
I lulz'd KG Sep 2021 #71
Tax the other rich!!! Devil Child Sep 2021 #76
Appears so, huh. Budi Sep 2021 #102
Did AOC co-sign any of that? Kid Berwyn Sep 2021 #80
How many of us buy from notorious tax cheats? TxGuitar Sep 2021 #133
Are they cheats or does the system favor them? mcar Sep 2021 #230
Taxing them does no good if they don't pay the tax Generic Brad Sep 2021 #81
Hopefully at $30,000 a ticket, she'll have a little extra to take care of that tax bill now fescuerescue Sep 2021 #84
The dress designer received money from the gala? yardwork Sep 2021 #88
serious question - who was the beneficiary of the fundraiser? fescuerescue Sep 2021 #101
The Metropolitan Museum's... tonedevil Sep 2021 #160
The dress designer received money from the gala? yardwork Sep 2021 #89
AOC isn't a tax deadbeat so fuck that right wing horse shit smear by association. Autumn Sep 2021 #87
Read the headline and story please. Thanks! George II Sep 2021 #93
No thanks George. I don't read garbage that attempts to smear one of the best Democrats we have. Autumn Sep 2021 #98
Aurora James is not one of the best Democrats we have. In fact, she's not a Democrat at all. George II Sep 2021 #100
You know why you posted this hit piece George if AOC was not mentioned you would not have posted it. Autumn Sep 2021 #104
You know why I posted the OP? Fact is, I don't like people who don't pay their taxes, rich or poor.. George II Sep 2021 #130
Yeah George. You post all the time about fucking tax cheats. Oh wrong topic. Autumn Sep 2021 #137
No.... George II Sep 2021 #193
... betsuni Sep 2021 #94
Right back atcha betsuni Autumn Sep 2021 #103
... betsuni Sep 2021 #290
LOL! If you are going to be a scold about the rich and Nixie Sep 2021 #158
Talking about scolds. LOL you seem to be sure that AOC was in some silly ployt and knew all about Autumn Sep 2021 #188
Quit trying to smear other women. The same was done to Nixie Sep 2021 #197
Silly me. I forgot it's only acceptable to smear young progressive Democrats. Autumn Sep 2021 #203
Please. We all know that "progressive" in her case is Nixie Sep 2021 #218
As funny as your obsession with progressives.... Autumn Sep 2021 #223
Again not making any sense. I voted for a candidate Nixie Sep 2021 #240
No one is smearing a young progressive Democrat, or a Democrat at all. People are "smearing"... George II Sep 2021 #244
Try harder George. nt Autumn Sep 2021 #254
I'm afraid it wouldn't work, Autumn. George II Sep 2021 #256
"BOMBSHELL"??? LOL panader0 Sep 2021 #106
It's embarrassing to DU that this nonsense got 20 recs RAB910 Sep 2021 #107
Why is it embarrassing? I think it's simply become a monumental oops!!! Budi Sep 2021 #110
When did we make mountain out of molehills to attack Democrats RAB910 Sep 2021 #131
Aaahhhaaahaaa! If you missed the last 2 elections & every week since then, well ... Budi Sep 2021 #151
You Have A Problem With Revealing Hypocrisy? Me. Sep 2021 #116
This. Treefrog Sep 2021 #129
AOC should have screened all her dress designers for tax liens wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #220
This thread is interesting isn't it? lots of comments n/t ChubbyStar Sep 2021 #271
I have a problem with making mountains out of molehills to smear Democrats RAB910 Sep 2021 #132
You Think This Is A MoleHill? Me. Sep 2021 #144
No it is not. How many times are we told that Manchin is the devil and Sinema's clothing choices Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #126
This! mcar Sep 2021 #231
Duers are RWingers now? WOW! Budi Sep 2021 #112
Reading skills are important. Nowhere did I say DUers are RWingers. panader0 Sep 2021 #115
Rofl.. ya sure did. Carefully worded tho. I'll hand that much to ya! Budi Sep 2021 #147
That is a silly strawman. Although both are making mountains out of molehills to smear Democrats RAB910 Sep 2021 #134
Yeah, that was my reaction, as well. GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #119
Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #113
"Tax the Rich" is about systematic taxation issues not... SYFROYH Sep 2021 #118
No, this person needs to pay her taxes...how is she allowed to owe this much with impunity...when Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #127
Apparently there's a disconnect between "tax the rich" and "get the rich to pay"..... George II Sep 2021 #190
Do we want the rick to pay taxes or not? wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #221
PAY YOUR TAXES!.. ? Cha Sep 2021 #234
LOL! Love the heads exploding over this! Nixie Sep 2021 #122
Luke Hayes is prob in meltdown spinning the message for brother Chris. Budi Sep 2021 #149
Good post George and when Just-Us Democrats go after rich donors or those Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #128
K & R !! Budi Sep 2021 #154
Thanks Budi. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #185
I guess Taxing the Rich goes out the door now? maxsolomon Sep 2021 #135
Checking for their legislative policy plan to go with their slogan.... Budi Sep 2021 #162
+1, plus they don't acknowledge that Bill Clinton actually taxed Nixie Sep 2021 #202
CHIP, 1997, Bill & Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy Budi Sep 2021 #215
Exactly!! Nixie Sep 2021 #219
IKR! It's as though the history of the major humanitarian works of our great Democratic Party... Budi Sep 2021 #239
Yup! It's inexcusable. Nixie Sep 2021 #241
"Bombshell"??? H2O Man Sep 2021 #168
The rest of MBFC's writeup on Mediaite says a lot about this article. Lancero Sep 2021 #177
Oh my my. There have been many links on DU from Mediate. Budi Sep 2021 #216
How many of them were originally sourced from RW 'news' sites? Lancero Sep 2021 #222
Have you read Maureen Dowd's piece on this ordeal! Wooheee Budi Sep 2021 #238
The publically available IRS tax documents are the primary source of the information. lapucelle Sep 2021 #248
And none of those documents back the articles headline. Lancero Sep 2021 #270
The documents do support the "claim" (it's not merely a claim) that she WAS delinquent.... George II Sep 2021 #273
No, the documents only back three. Lancero Sep 2021 #277
Read the documents again. Cultural Brokerage is Aurora James LLC. lapucelle Sep 2021 #288
+1 betsuni Sep 2021 #289
The design looked like plagiarism, anyway. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2021 #178
I agree, I found it horrid. Treefrog Sep 2021 #196
It's a standard bridesmaid's gown, functioning as a billboard FakeNoose Sep 2021 #206
Actually the plagiarism is more direct. There was a dress worn by Joy Villa.... George II Sep 2021 #313
Good catch. It expresses a political sentiment, thanks for not posting the picture. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2021 #317
Interesting maybe, but hardly a "bombshell." StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #191
Lol. Try harder Arazi Sep 2021 #200
Bombshell. Big corporations and the wealthy don't pay their fair share of taxes. Quick! Change jalan48 Sep 2021 #201
It's "Bombshell" HYPOCRISY! The "Rich" was Cha Sep 2021 #237
Seriously, why is this a knock against AOC or the designer? wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #260
It's only a "knock" (if you want to use that word) against the designer, who created a dress.... George II Sep 2021 #263
Obviously AOC taught her the error of her ways wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #265
I have no idea what you're talking about. George II Sep 2021 #267
These defenses of the designer are totally absurd. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #291
+1 betsuni Sep 2021 #292
Yes, nobody is allowed to change and grow wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #294
Ha! Pretzel logic is funny! NurseJackie Sep 2021 #295
Ms. James' latest overdue bill was in July 2021, paid in August 2021, barely a month ago. George II Sep 2021 #296
So she WAS paying back taxes wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #297
Perhaps, but we could have said that on Nov 12, 2015, when Ms. James satisfied her first warrant... George II Sep 2021 #298
Recidivism is a difficult habit from which to break free. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #299
If the designer made a "don't tax me" dress wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #301
She didn't need to be that blatant... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #303
But she has been paying wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #307
How about "Everyone pay their taxes"? That would be an effective slogan. George II Sep 2021 #304
"Tax the Rich" wasn't enough? wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #306
Not really... after removing the rose-colored glasses, it's easy to see... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #311
Not if they don't pay the taxes they're assessed. What's the point? George II Sep 2021 #312
Agreed wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #315
That's a good one. But populist slogans need a boogeyman... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #309
Majority of tax warrants resolved then wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #300
Not all, and despite being satisfied they're still recurring every few months. That's not progress. George II Sep 2021 #302
Paying taxes is not progress wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #308
It certainly doesn't mitigate the designer's hypocrisy... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #310
So I guess you won't be buying one of her clothes? wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #314
Ridiculous. Such silliness... 🙄 NurseJackie Sep 2021 #316
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treestar

(82,383 posts)
1. ROFL
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:03 PM
Sep 2021

I suppose she thinks she is not rich herself, and resents being taxed so much, and thinks it is those richer than she who should be the ones to pay.

madville

(7,412 posts)
166. It really is hilarious
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:46 PM
Sep 2021

People need to relax a little and have more fun with these types of stories, being so serious about everything all the time must be miserable!

Enter stage left

(3,398 posts)
2. If this is true, I fully support the NY Post...
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:07 PM
Sep 2021

We absolutely need truth in reporting, and if this is the truth, AOC needs to distance herself & condemn her associate.

FBaggins

(26,758 posts)
205. Nor anything implying they didn't
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:22 PM
Sep 2021

The NYPost piece links directly to tax records for LA County, NYC, and the federal government. Did you expect Mediaite to say "we clicked the links and confirmed the story" ?

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
207. You have a very low threshold for good journalism it would appear and yes, they do state
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:28 PM
Sep 2021

when they have independently confirmed. This is standard practice.

FBaggins

(26,758 posts)
208. Linking directly to government documents doesn't qualify in your book?
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:36 PM
Sep 2021

How odd.

and yes, they do state when they have independently confirmed.

Not when there isn't any doubt.

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
209. NY Post did none of that and that is who they cited.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:38 PM
Sep 2021

Quite frankly, I really don't care. This is an independent business person who has to stand up for their own practices. It is the smearing of AOC or any other democrat for the behavior of someone else that is unacceptable and I'm not even particularly a fan or hers nor supportive of her myself. Repeating and promoting RW reporting is beyond questionable to me on DU, but whatever rocks your boat.

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
211. Wow.. and AOC is all over those documents!!!! NOT
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:52 PM
Sep 2021

Again it is ironic I am having to defend against smearing an elected democrat and one I don't especially favor. It used to be expected that we would not use guilt by association promoted by the RW to do so. Certainly dating back as far as Obama and the Reverend Wright bullshit. But, you be you.

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
217. And that is being used to attack an elected Dem by association--all from a RW rag reporting
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 03:23 PM
Sep 2021

and though I, like many on this board are at best equivocal about AOC, the attempt to smear her by association is beyond crappy and unworthy of this board IMO. So, do tell me. Where does HER name appear on any of those linked documents?

Like I said, I join many in being at best equivocal about AOC, but respect the intent of this board to support Dems and not smear them (even by association). So I'm done. Enjoy your day. If you want to argue about her or any other elected Dem with me, personally, kindly wait until the next primaries.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
40. DU Rules, and I quote
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:59 AM
Sep 2021

Don't bash Democratic public figures
Do not post disrespectful nicknames, insults, or highly inflammatory attacks against any Democratic public figures. Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate, and do not compare any Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s).

Why we have this rule: Our forum members support and admire a wide variety of Democratic politicians and public figures. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but our members don't expect to see Democrats viciously denigrated on this website. This rule also applies to Independents who align themselves with Democrats (eg: Bernie Sanders).

The origin piece is from a right wing rag hit piece called the NY Post. I am instantly suspect.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
192. Actually the OP was 'peddling' Mediate.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:49 PM
Sep 2021

Among a growing # of other reputable media venues.

They aren't all copying & pasting NYPost.
They do their own factchecking.
Turns out NY Post was more factchecked this time.
Best to look at who wrote the piece.

FBaggins

(26,758 posts)
153. The "no bashing" rule...
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:26 PM
Sep 2021

... is not "assume that any bad news about a Democrat is 'fake news!' and avoid posting it"

Nothing in the OP violates the rule.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
159. It's only being reported by the NY Post
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:32 PM
Sep 2021

This is the written Fox News. We at DU now accept what Fox News, and it's written equivalent's write. Why not start posting supermarket scandal sheet articles as news?

No other place is reporting this, only the original story in the NY Post, and the RW echo chamber.

FBaggins

(26,758 posts)
170. Untrue
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:50 PM
Sep 2021

You can't refer to mediaite as part of the right-wing echo chamber.

Nor does a story first being reported by a right-wing source make it a "right-wing smear". Some part of the reporting would have to be knowingly untrue for that to be the case.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
171. IT was originally reported in the NY Post. That's the right wing smear machine
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:00 PM
Sep 2021

I think I'm done with this thread.

FBaggins

(26,758 posts)
176. So? If they report the weather do we need to ignore it
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:09 PM
Sep 2021

when a more respectable news organization picks it up?

Did you note that you were post #171? Could that happen if the DU community agreed that the OP violated two rules?

Hint - if a story is true and you don’t like it… the rules aren’t there to make it go away.

FlyingPiggy

(3,384 posts)
235. But they didn't report the weather. It was just another hit piece
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 04:50 PM
Sep 2021

In a never ending line of hit pieces. This RW smear machine would make reporting of weather be about how awful socialist marxist commy democrats have manipulated the weather to kill fetuses and take away their guns. NYP is anything but even the faintest hint of journalism. Any defense of this bullshit rag is indefensible. If you want to talk about the weather, find a source that reputable.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
195. As someone pointed out, the information is public.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:53 PM
Sep 2021

It apparently is true.

Whether AOC was aware of it is another issue altogether.

FlyingPiggy

(3,384 posts)
236. She probably wasn't aware. Who would be? I certainly don't get tax records
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 04:53 PM
Sep 2021

From all of the people I’m buying stuff from. Or do a complete background check on every vendor. That’s crazy.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
138. As is my point. AOC is being attacked for buying a dress from a tax cheat
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:42 AM
Sep 2021

and some people here, in this thread, are using it to attack her. IT's violating two DU rules.

1: Don't attack Democrats
2: Don't peddle right wing smears (NY Post)

George II

(67,782 posts)
148. Where and how is she being attacked? This is about the designer who apparently....
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:16 PM
Sep 2021

....is a persistent tax scofflaw.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
155. I ask you to read response #143
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:26 PM
Sep 2021

the world BOMBSHELL makes it an attack. See, she said tax the rich on a dress, but she bought it at someone who doesn't pay her taxes. See. See! She's a hypocrite so no one should listen to her or take her seriously

This is a typical right wing tactic. I was attacked because, when the water crisis hit, I hadn't made my opinions known because I hadn't researched it enough. When I was told "Big Ag" takes 72% of the water, I responded that Big Ag is a huge lobby in AZ and that might be hard to break unless everything falls our way.

Instantly, I was attacked as being a shill for Big Ag, which is not the case.

If you don't think this is an around the back attack by the origin of the article, the NY Post, to discredit and de-legitimize her and people like her, then we need to work on how right wing smears and their echo chamber works.

George II

(67,782 posts)
169. The word BOMBSHELL refers to the news about the designer, Aurora James....
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:50 PM
Sep 2021

I didn't read the NY Post article, I read the Mediaite article.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
172. Mediate sourced the NY Post. I am instantly suspicious and since I won't waste bandwidth
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:00 PM
Sep 2021

going to the NY Post. . .

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
136. This seems like an attack on AOC with guilt by association being the way it's done
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:40 AM
Sep 2021

Again, the original ariticle is from the written version of the NY Post.

Nixie

(16,976 posts)
146. Haha ! "Guilt by association" is all we've heard since
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:05 PM
Sep 2021

about…five of six years ago with all the little innuendo put-downs spouted as campaign chants. “Speeches”. “Wall Street”. “Corporations”. Lol, this is hilarious .



Nixie

(16,976 posts)
152. "Pay your taxes". Lol, you just know that's how it
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:25 PM
Sep 2021

will be spun now. it’s just the hypocrisy of being a scold about the rich and taxes but wearing a dress by someone who hasn’t paid her taxes. Oh dear!

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
157. And the sad thing is, alot of DUers in this thread are doing the right wing NY Post's bidding
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:30 PM
Sep 2021

You realize the NY Post is the ONLY "newspaper" reporting this. This is how the right wing smear machine echo chamber works.

Nixie

(16,976 posts)
163. No, the sad thing is that the original message was also
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:37 PM
Sep 2021

used against Democrats…beloved and respected Democrats, all for a political advantage during a campaign. It’s shameful. Many superficial scolds were part of that period.

This is all over DailyMail, too. Someone here posted a link to that site a few days ago about this subject matter, so I guess it’s a good one now, lol.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
164. That too. And DU rules state don't attack Democrats and don't peddle RW smears
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:40 PM
Sep 2021

The thing is, you really can't take down AOC in her district. Hers is one of the safest, being D+31 I believe.

Nixie

(16,976 posts)
167. That's why the attacks on Democrats are being avenged
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:48 PM
Sep 2021

now, so it’s good to see you on board with correcting that time period where there was so much dishonest messaging. Bravo! Now you see how the RW runs with all these superficial slogans that real Democrats defeated at the ballot box twice now. Let’s not feed the RWers !

But not everyone is in a safe district, so they can’t indulge themselves in this kind of messaging. They have to appeal to their local denizens. One district in New York is just one district in New York.

Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #117)

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
161. But let's concentrate on the designer of the dress of the person who is the loudest about that
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:36 PM
Sep 2021

After all, if she cared about taxing the rich, she never would have had her dress designed by a "tax cheat." That will be the attack.

Since we all know the NY Post has the most stellar reputation of being non-biased and truthful. Just like "fair and balanced" Fox News.

Remind me again who owns both and what their political alignments are. I forgot.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
198. Kardashian motto: All press is good press!!
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:02 PM
Sep 2021

If ever there were an award for masters of spin & deflection to own the headlines, it would be that gad awful opportunistic family.

They played the sensational media game like pros. And created their own drama stories like a script for one end game. Profit..

They didn't give a shit what peole thought about one headlne before the next was rolled out. They used the media & played the drama addicted viewers.. And look where they are now!
They're now millionares & billionares!!
They achieved what they came for.

It's just business afterall!!
Capitalism, Corporatism & self fullfilment of being in that club of society.

All ya need is a cool schtick & a good press agent, & your in!



betsuni

(25,618 posts)
19. Since AOC sells "Tax the Rich" sweatshirts in her merch shop, it was her idea to put
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:19 AM
Sep 2021

the slogan on the dress and the designer didn't want to say no. Perhaps why the slogan was on the back, maybe nobody would notice! That's my theory.

The designer maybe thought nobody would bother looking into her past (but claiming to be working class -- I know it's popular for Justice Democrats-types to believe that nobody except the working class can possibly understand inequality so everybody wants to say they're working class, but it's asking for trouble when it's not true), or she didn't think she's done anything wrong anyway (it's business, status quo).

mcar

(42,374 posts)
228. That's the part I don't get
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 04:09 PM
Sep 2021

The designer obviously wanted to get attention by designing AOC's Met Gala gown. Did she really think no one would notice the message on the dress and bother to look into her own claims/finances?

Maybe she didn't think she was doing anything wrong.

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
242. It doesn't make any sense. And here's a new designer's big break, the Met gala,
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:42 PM
Sep 2021

with the theme of "America" and all she can come up with is a wedding dress with a slogan on the back?

PatSeg

(47,600 posts)
92. I agree, a publicity stunt that appears to have backfired
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:39 AM
Sep 2021

Though I agree with the sentiment, "Tax the Rich", I didn't care for the way it was conveyed. It can be hard to take elected representatives seriously when they resort to gimmicks like this. I don't see how this served any good purpose. Democrats already agree with taxing the rich and republicans will just ridicule the peculiar antic and use it against Democrats.

Good intentions, but bad judgment is how I see it.

sheshe2

(83,904 posts)
9. Hmmm
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:36 PM
Sep 2021
[blockquote“I experienced a lot of harassment when I worked for her,” one former contract employee told The Post. “Aurora would ask me to do things that were not in anyone’s job description, like scheduling her gynecological appointments. The work environment was so hostile that I was afraid to ask for my check.” The employee was ultimately terminated.

An ex-intern called James “quite cold,” adding that “she never gives recognition or acknowledgement to her team.


Reps for James and Ocasio-Cortez declined to respond to the Post’s requests for comment.

From your link.

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Thanks for that. Actually, the bit about the inter-company squabble pales in comparison to....
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:41 PM
Sep 2021

...the multi-millionaire designer of a "Tax the Rich" dress who apparently doesn't pay her own taxes.

Igel

(35,358 posts)
68. Perhaps she doesn't consider herself rich.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:44 AM
Sep 2021

And therefore shouldn't be asked to pay taxes.

Or, apparently, rent.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
37. If Fox or the Post asked me to comment, I wouldn't either
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:55 AM
Sep 2021

Quasi News organization with a history of distortion make me queasy.

PatSeg

(47,600 posts)
95. Yeah, it really was pretty awful
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:49 AM
Sep 2021

These kind of events often seem to be a contest to see who can look the most weird and awful. The worst dresses tend to get the most publicity.

blogslug

(38,016 posts)
13. Sorry. I am not blown to bits.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:45 PM
Sep 2021

The gown brought attention to the issue. A whole lot of people are still screeching about that dress. If the attention reveals that designer needs to pay her taxes, I'm cool with it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. I'm not blown to bits either, but it's ironic that a rich woman who designs a "Tax the Rich" dress..
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:52 PM
Sep 2021

...is taxed but apparently doesn't bother to pay her own taxes.

blogslug

(38,016 posts)
16. And uncovering that fact will bring another few rounds of attention to the issue
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:03 AM
Sep 2021

The words TAX THE RICH will be read and seen over and over.

It wasn't much of a design anyway. Probably a stock dress with words heat-transferred on it.

 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
46. jeeze !
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:19 AM
Sep 2021

tax the rich , blah ,blah,blah, - don't worry about it ! don't get a damn handle on this c-19 crurd , you won't have any tax payer's left anyway ! consider the main problem first , then go after the secondary later ! this country need's to get it's priorities straight ! who gives a shit about a damn dress when ya got medical staff dropping over from exhausting hour's ! give me a fucking break !
 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
85. You are hiring someone who is richa nd not paying her taxes to make your tax the rich dress?
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:26 AM
Sep 2021

It is in the same neighborhood.

Doodley

(9,128 posts)
17. Not relevant and not ironic. No more than a taxi driver taking people to a renewable
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:04 AM
Sep 2021

energy conference in a gas guzzler. It is just right-wing fodder to attack taxing the rich.

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
20. Yep
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:46 AM
Sep 2021

and it gives some people another excuse to attack AOC...because of course it is somehow her fault that this woman didn't pay her taxes.

And yes, it gives a whole lot of people an excuse to demand that no one tax rich people.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/taxes/richest-americans-pay-almost-no-income-taxes-report-finds-n1270069

madaboutharry

(40,220 posts)
21. People who don't pay taxes or their bills when there is no reason not to have a character flaw.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:06 AM
Sep 2021

She was apparently very able to pay her taxes and her rent, but rather choose not to. That is a failing of character.

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
125. If someone were to look into it closely
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:12 AM
Sep 2021

you'd very likely find that nearly all of the very wealthy people at that party have outstanding tax bills.

The IRS doesn't really go after wealthy people for back taxes.

https://www.gq.com/story/no-irs-audits-for-the-rich

small excerpt:

The Internal Revenue Service is in a bind. The agency's job is to collect the taxes that fund everything else in the government, from Social Security to the Post Office to Medicaid to the military's endless conflicts across the globe. But the IRS is struggling: According to Vox, Americans owe a cumulative $131 billion in unpaid taxes, enough to completely fund the Department of Education for two years. The bulk of that money is owed by the wealthiest people in the country, yet the IRS isn't attempting to collect it from them. Instead, as IRS Commissioner Charles Rettig confirmed in a letter to Congress recently, the agency literally can't afford to audit the rich, so it's pursuing the poor instead.

ProPublica has published multiple stories on the sad state of the modern IRS over the past year. They found that a person is more likely to get audited if they make $20,000 a year than if they make $400,000. That's because it takes a lot less time, money, and people to investigate someone who receives the earned income tax credit, one of the government's largest anti-poverty programs, than it does to look into the complicated holdings and filings of someone else making 20 times as much. And even further up the economic ladder, things aren't any better: Millionaires were 80 percent less likely to be audited in 2018 than they were in 2011.

This is the direct result of years of conservative-led efforts to successfully defund, defang, and delegitimize the IRS. Over the past eight years, Congress has steadily reduced the agency's enforcement budget by billions of dollars, down 25 percent from what it was in 2008. And by cutting out only relatively small chunks at a time, the gutting has largely avoided public outcry. Unsurprisingly, according to ProPublica, the IRS is in disarray on the inside, resulting in "a bureaucracy on life support."

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
23. Millionares & Billionares Baby!!
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:13 AM
Sep 2021

"TAX THE RICH" they said.

Wow. the hypocrisy

(Declined to comment 🙄

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
25. After 2017 millionaires okay, billionaires still very bad.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:31 AM
Sep 2021

But if you know them, then they're grassroots billionaires and are okay, or something.

Bucky

(54,068 posts)
24. Wait, what, a wealthy fashion designer turns out to be a tax cheating hypocrite? Say it ain't so!!
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:21 AM
Sep 2021

Simple enough solution for this scandal.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
26. How is this on AOC? As a customer, you don't ask about the business's financial situation
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:33 AM
Sep 2021

I don't see how this could or should be a "scandal." She was a customer. I'm sure others are customers with the same political views.

Bernie Sanders lives in a big house. . .obviously he doesn't care about the poor.

In 1977, a writer with Rolling Stone laughed when Harry Chapin, a tireless advocate against world hunger, went into a dinner and ordered a monster sized Reuben and a pile of french fries. Chapin smiled and said "me going hungry doesn't help anyone."

AOC is the same way. She advertised her message on a dress. The designer is a loser. Not on AOC. And don't give me vetting. AOC is a human being, not a saint.

If this is all people have (when the Republicans are trying to destroy the poor and supported insurrectionist), this faux-scandal and fake outrage is sickening.

yardwork

(61,709 posts)
77. I agree. How was AOC supposed to know that the designer owes taxes?
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 08:55 AM
Sep 2021

It's sad to me that Democrats attack one another while Republicans support one another while doing so much worse.

Jedi Guy

(3,251 posts)
82. Agreed, expecting AOC to be aware of or seek out this person's owed taxes/rent is unrealistic.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:18 AM
Sep 2021

And I say that as someone who's not really a fan of hers. She's done/said a lot of things I'm not fond of, but this isn't even a blip on the radar.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
141. Have To Disagree
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:44 AM
Sep 2021

She has a smart team and the idea that this was not fully vetted boggles my mind.

Jedi Guy

(3,251 posts)
156. That's fair, I suppose. They know what kind of scrutiny she's under.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:29 PM
Sep 2021

That said, it never would've occurred to me, but I guess that's why I'm not a staffer to a Congresswoman.

FBaggins

(26,758 posts)
165. That would be true if she just purchased the dress from her
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:45 PM
Sep 2021

But it was a far more extensive relationship than that. They were essentially on a double date, planned the message out with intent (AOC explicitly referred to it as "our message" as "working-class women of color&quot , and it provided James with a platform that got her published on the subject.

FBaggins

(26,758 posts)
285. What a laughable response (and ridiculous implied definition for "progress")
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:30 AM
Sep 2021

Thanks for making us look exactly like the right portrays us.

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
286. The definition of "progressive" meaning the Democratic Party isn't progressive,
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:44 AM
Sep 2021

has the same economic policies as Republicans ("corporate Dems" "establishment" "status quo" ), and only democratic socialists (utopian saviors) can transform the corrupt party into one that cares about the working/middle classes, that the American people are secretly socialists and it is only the corrupt establishment preventing progress.

Handing the Right the enemy that they want on a silver platter.

progressoid

(49,999 posts)
30. Ahhhhahahahaha....Why didn't you link to the original article?
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:45 AM
Sep 2021
"according to a report by the New York Post"





https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/

Overall we rate the New York Post on the far end of Right-Center Biased due to story selection that typically favors the Right and Mixed (borderline questionable) for factual reporting based on several failed fact checks.




AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
142. I'm not listening to a right wing Newspaper's use of that article to attack a strong Democratic
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:46 AM
Sep 2021

woman.

If you want to, that's your business.

If she is a tax deadbeat, that's for the IRS to deal with. Still trying to see how AOC is at fault for that, or how it shows she is a hypocrite.

Stop attacking Democrats directly or indirectly. It's a DU rules violation, as its peddling right wing smears.

lapucelle

(18,327 posts)
96. The tax documents are publically available.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:52 AM
Sep 2021

The parent corporation she founded to handle her business enterprises withheld taxes from employees and then failed to pay them to the federal government. One iteration of Aurora James exists as a corporate entity that fails to pay its taxes.

Cultural Brokerage Agency LLC
https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_ny/4083867

New York State Department of State
State Tax Warrant Notice System

https://appext20.dos.ny.gov/stwarrants_public/stw_warrants?p_name=CULTURAL+BROKERAGE+AGENCY+LLC&p_lapsed=0

*************************************************************************************

Federal Liens for failure to remit federal witholding taxes:

New York City Department of Finance
Office of the City Register

https://a836-acris.nyc.gov/DS/DocumentSearch/DocumentImageView?doc_id=2018042800004036

************************************************************************************

Aurora James also owes property taxes on her home in LA.

https://portal.assessor.lacounty.gov/parceldetail/5564017012

*************************************************************************************

I wonder how the appropriately- masked train bearer felt.



progressoid

(49,999 posts)
261. I've been behind on my taxes in the past too. Not like her or Stacey Abrams or Willie Nelson but
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 10:19 PM
Sep 2021

behind none the less.

Bring on the condemnation!

Tell us we're hypocrites for being delinquent!




George II

(67,782 posts)
293. This isn't just being behind on taxes like it was an oversight or an error....
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 09:48 AM
Sep 2021

We're talking about Ms. James:

- Failing to pay NYS taxes 15 times since 2015
- Failing to pay NYC taxes (probably a similar number of times since they're prepared together for most)
- Deducting withholding taxes from employees' pay but failing to forward it to the IRS
- Already delinquent on property taxes on a $1.6M house in Hollywood Hills that she bought only last year

This would normally be a non-story except that she designed a dress emblazoned with "Tax the Rich" in big red letters, all the while knowing that she was rich, she was taxed, and she failed to pay those taxes.

That is where the "hypocrisy" might come in. I know first-hand that's not the way it's done in Canada.

orleans

(34,073 posts)
48. not to change the subject but...
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:34 AM
Sep 2021

i did a search for du on that site
and while we (du) land between left and extreme our factual reporting is "mixed"

facebook, on the other hand, (left center), had factual reporting of "mostly factual" LOL

orangecrush

(19,617 posts)
33. AOC
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:49 AM
Sep 2021


Seems to make some people very nervous.

I admire her, and her work.

She is one of those actively sought by the 1/6 mob, and narrowly escaped.

I find the attacks on her on THIS WEBSITE to be completely disgusting.

George II

(67,782 posts)
145. She didn't "narrowly escape", but that's an entirely different subject....
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:52 AM
Sep 2021

PS - this thread is about Aurora James.

Response to George II (Reply #145)

RockRaven

(15,001 posts)
38. Legislative branch passes laws. Executive branch enforces them.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:57 AM
Sep 2021

The existence of a tax scofflaw does not undermine the position of a legislator advocating for higher taxes on certain parties.

That said, it is an unnecessary and avoidable distraction from the intended point. One which corporate media will revel in, because of their own tax-avoiding interests.

George II

(67,782 posts)
187. There are 68 people in this thread, so that narrows it down. So, you said something you're not....
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:41 PM
Sep 2021

.....going to elaborate on?

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
43. DU Rules:
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:04 AM
Sep 2021

Don't peddle right-wing talking points, smears, or sources
Do not post right-wing talking points or smears. Do not post content sourced from right-wing publications, authors, or pundits. Exceptions are permitted if you provide a clear reason for doing so that is consistent with the values of this website.

Why we have this rule: News media and the Internet are already awash with conservative propagandists attacking our candidates and our values -- we're not interested in providing them with another outlet. We understand that many of our members might hold some conservative viewpoints on isolated issues, but nobody here should be parroting hateful garbage from the RNC, the NRA, or the Family Research Council. Forum members should expect that the only time they'll have to read a right-wing smear or an article from Breitbart is when someone is pointing and laughing at it.

The mediaite article even says "According to the NY Post." That is a right wing rag and this is a right wing smear.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
55. The article is about the designer of the dress, not about AOC.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:27 AM
Sep 2021

Conclusions one draws from the article about the designer are all in the mind of the reader.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,755 posts)
143. Since it's from NY Post, you know exactly why this was called "BOMBSHELL."
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:47 AM
Sep 2021

It would be the same as saying: "BOMBSHELL: Bernie Sanders lives in a million dollar mansion after making millions off his book deal."

You can't be so naive to know this BOMBSHELL is designed as a smear.

One of my campaign planks is to invest in renewable energy. Imagine this article headline if I am elected: "BOMBSHELL. Arizona State Rep. Aram Katz drive an internal combustion engine that uses gasoline." The implication is I am a hypocrite because I don't drive a hybrid or an electric car, so therefore all my work for environmental causes and renewable energy is hypocritical.

As with AOC and her deadbeat dress designer. I could buy things from a store where the owner beats their children. "BOMBSHELL: Arizona State Rep. Aram Katz shops at store where owners are arrested for child abuse." The implication, again, is my work to try to outlaw corporal punishment in Arizona schools (yes, it is still legal) is hypocritical because I should have known the owners of the store abused their children.

Sympthsical

(9,115 posts)
45. At least own posting a right-wing hit piece
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:17 AM
Sep 2021

They didn't like the dress or the message, so they went digging. Pretty thoroughly, too. Damn.

But trying to filter it through Mediaite with a cute little bias graphic is a transparent attempt to skirt around the fact you're posting a right-wing hit piece from a right-wing source. I get it. If it splashes AOC with any amount of shit, it needs to be posted immediately. That's fine, usual, predictable. Carrying the Right's water to get some knocks in on AOC is almost trite at this point.

But the hilariously limp laundering of a right-wing hit through a secondary website is deeply funny. Like anyone doesn't see that for what it is. Should've scribbled "Have an A1 day!" at the bottom while we're making the effort.

Anyway, I think this filled my bingo card for the week.

"Post right-wing hit job to get some hits against a progressive" That's at least worth four corners on the thing.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
50. Very disappointing
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 04:15 AM
Sep 2021

And transparent.

What's next, we quote American Spectator articles about a real estate investment?

Demsrule86

(68,683 posts)
184. I bet I could find something. However, I would rather watch football...just saying after some of
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:30 PM
Sep 2021

the posts I have read by you...I kind of think any outrage may be misplaced.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
257. Rightwing sources think this is newsworthy
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:33 PM
Sep 2021

Rightwing sources thinks this somehow invalidates the message

George II

(67,782 posts)
269. I agree. If we're going to be serious about "Tax the Rich", we should make sure those rich....
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:02 PM
Sep 2021

...are forced to pay. Don't you agree?

progressoid

(49,999 posts)
272. You agree? Good, then do Stacey Abrams.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:19 PM
Sep 2021

It's easy. Just find the attack ad against her from the Republican Governors Association.

George II

(67,782 posts)
274. Why progressoid? Was Stacey Abrams delinquent in her taxes more than a dozen or more times?
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:26 PM
Sep 2021

Why drag her into this discussion? I don't understand.

progressoid

(49,999 posts)
276. Oh, I didn't know the goalposts for being delinquent was 12 or more.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:36 PM
Sep 2021
Why drag her into this discussion?


Same reason you would post something about a Canadian clothing designer?
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
52. Is the NY Post story wrong then? Is Politico RW as well, now under their new mgmt?.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 04:36 AM
Sep 2021

"Millionares & Billionares"

Sympthsical

(9,115 posts)
109. Trying to drag Bernie into a right-wing hit job
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 10:21 AM
Sep 2021

Not really something I'd expect on a site for liberals and progressives.

Please proceed. I see the circle has already formed.

I'm just wondering about the fate of the cookie.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
111. Oh please... you brought his name into this, not me.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 10:31 AM
Sep 2021

Here's my post you refer to. It says bernie where again? That's right. It doesn't.

Budi
52. Is the NY Post story wrong then? Is Politico RW as well, now under their new mgmt?.
"Millionares & Billionares"


BTW, That still doesn't answer my question.
Still waiting...

Demsrule86

(68,683 posts)
121. This is Democratic Underground...it is a site for Democrats...many perhaps most are liberal and
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:05 AM
Sep 2021

progressive.

Sympthsical

(9,115 posts)
173. This whole thread rebukes your response
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:05 PM
Sep 2021

A right-wing hit piece by a right-wing source is posted for the express purpose of splashing an elected Democrat with its shit.

C'mon.

I could take the whole "For Democrats" cant seriously if it wasn't only employed for some Democrats and not for others in such an embarrassingly obvious manner.

AOC is often attacked, with great relish, on this site. You know, a site for supporting elected Democrats.

But that little "For Democrats!" goes right out the window with frequency when she is involved.

If you're fine with a right-wing hit piece by a right-wing media outlet meant to damage an elected Democrat being posted here, that's cool.

But let's not use the "for Democrats" line. It insults us both. Especially within the context of this thread. This isn't just a slip showing. This is the whole damn dress.

Nixie

(16,976 posts)
179. Oh please. Bernie is not an elected Democrat, and that is
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:24 PM
Sep 2021

his messaging (he’s an Independent). His messaging also lost twice —with actual Democrats. So this isn’t about how you are trying to twist it to protect AOC from the reality of rejected messaging. You keep trying to make this personal, but it’s really time that you think about accepting that Bernie was rejected by Democrats, so this really isn’t about Democrats as much as you want to make it.

Sympthsical

(9,115 posts)
186. Bingo!
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:35 PM
Sep 2021

Oh, I wasn't agreeing. Was just filling in my card. Is everyone here? Glance, glance, yes.

See how Bernie's dragged in now? To deflect from attacks on an elected Democrat?

I love this stuff. I am all about transparency and the obvious. So the easier that is, the happier the clam I am. And right now, I'm downright chowdery.

Nixie

(16,976 posts)
199. Tax the Rich is from Bernie's campaign, so if you want bingo,
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:03 PM
Sep 2021

Google “Bernie Bingo.” It’s a hilarious compilation of all the little buzzwords, cliches and slogans. All part of a losing campaign, so it’s obvious that AOC is about the only way to keep that alive so saying she’s “elected” means we all have to shut up about where the losing messaging came from.

And since we’re keeping score… thanks for showing your desire to make things personal instead of being objective and realistic.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
246. Really? I believe it was your own post #109 that invoked Sen Sanders' name
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:55 PM
Sep 2021

No one has mentioned his name here but you.

Here, I'l make it easy.
Sympthsical
109. Trying to drag Bernie into a right-wing hit job
Not really something I'd expect on a site for liberals and progressives.

Please proceed. I see the circle has already formed.

I'm just wondering about the fate of the cookie


You brought his name into the thread.
At least own it.

Thanks

Demsrule86

(68,683 posts)
183. Some Democrats? Both Manchin and Sinema have been savaged here as was Biden for
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:28 PM
Sep 2021

Afghanista. I find it amusing. It is on CNN by the way.

George II

(67,782 posts)
204. The Mediaite article is about a dress designer, not an elected official. As far as I can see....
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:19 PM
Sep 2021

....the designer probably isn't even a Democrat. In fact, unless she recently was naturalized, she's Canadian.

She designed the most talked about dress at the Gala, and outside of fashion and high society circles was virtually unknown until this week.

If you actually read the article linked in the OP, you'll see that other than in the first sentence and last comment about representatives declining to comment, she wasn't even mentioned in the body of the article.

Demovictory9

(32,475 posts)
56. I've seen her before. maybe on a fashion show to help struggling fashion designers. She was prob
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:28 AM
Sep 2021

never rich. just a struggling entrepreneuer

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
57. LOL at Kill the Messenger attempts. Holding feet to the fire suddenly not a thing!
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:42 AM
Sep 2021

Last edited Sun Sep 19, 2021, 06:32 AM - Edit history (1)

$1.6 million house perfectly normal for a working class "struggling entrepreneur."

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
64. What? Suddenly who you associate with doesn't count? Why not?
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:34 AM
Sep 2021

Doesn't that count for authentic, consistent, speaking truth to power, billionaires shouldn't exist, wealthy donors are bad (the designer contributed $2,700 to Hillary Clinton so Hillary was "beholden." )

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
65. ???
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:36 AM
Sep 2021

Sorry, I don't buy into promulgating attacks on Dems... Even those with which I disagree on occasion.

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
67. again, ???
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:40 AM
Sep 2021

Are you dragging HRC into this too? If I am misunderstanding you, please clarify.

Otherwise...

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
72. Because wealthy donors who gave the legal limit to Democrats are accused of
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 08:22 AM
Sep 2021

corrupting Democrats. Hello somebody! The only pure and innocent contribution is $3 or $27. Duh.

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
74. I think if you would comment in complete thoughts instead of twitter type phrases,
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 08:35 AM
Sep 2021

you would be better understood. I don't need your "duh"...

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
78. Not at all. I am trying to help you be better understood and be able to do so with your comments
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 08:56 AM
Sep 2021

myself. That is why I asked you to clarify.

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
79. "I am trying to help you be better understood and be able to do so with your comments myself."
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:04 AM
Sep 2021

What? Don't know what that means. Clarify.

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
124. A response limited to "duh" from the other poster incited my comment.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:12 AM
Sep 2021

I don't know why when AOC is the subject that DUers seem to be incited to the point of back and forth snark. I am not her biggest fan, but I can also see when the RW is using it in ways not limited to facts.

But, I will stay out of these threads in the future. A no-brainer (perhaps a "duh" ) on my part.

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
275. You mean my comment that wealthy donors giving legal limits are accused of corrupting
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:36 PM
Sep 2021

Democrats and the only pure and innocent contribution is $3 or $27 (because that's "grassroots" )?

How is that limited to "duh"? Calling them "corporate Democrats," the accusation Democrats are corrupt is common, that Democrats aren't progressive, the party is "too big of a tent" because both parties are too much the same. That's a fact.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
105. It sure seemed like it counted when she gave that speech to
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 10:03 AM
Sep 2021

Wall Shtreet. Though we never knew what it was about...whoo boy did that association matter back then.

Now it's ok.
How times have changed! Huh.

betsuni

(25,618 posts)
282. That was constant, key to her fictional corruption. And photos of her with Kissinger as somehow
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 01:00 AM
Sep 2021

proof of evil warmongering and so on. That was quite popular along with Wall Street Goldman Sachs Wall Street Goldman Sachs. Hillary was more dangerous than Trump! So much stupid.

And we were constantly told about "bad optics." Everything was optics. Well ...

hlthe2b

(102,361 posts)
58. George, it isn't mediate that is the source of this, it is the NYPOST--a defnitive RW rag
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:56 AM
Sep 2021

Mediate is merely reporting on the accusations, but because they originate with Murdoch's rag, I'd be rather suspicious... Unfortunately, the former did not indicate any attempt to independently confirm the information before passing it along. That then makes us equally culpable. Granted I have mixed feelings about the entire episode, but I'd advise we all be cautious before propagating anything from NY Post.

Kid Berwyn

(14,962 posts)
80. Did AOC co-sign any of that?
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:11 AM
Sep 2021

How is it AOC’s fault?

This article seems to be smear by association.



Source: https://www.spiegel.de/international/banning-the-swastika-should-germany-s-history-become-europe-s-a-337722.html

My take-away: In the fashion world, we may need to do a background check on artists.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
87. AOC isn't a tax deadbeat so fuck that right wing horse shit smear by association.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:28 AM
Sep 2021

If only Republicans were hated here as much as she is.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
98. No thanks George. I don't read garbage that attempts to smear one of the best Democrats we have.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:55 AM
Sep 2021

Fuck that shit .

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
104. You know why you posted this hit piece George if AOC was not mentioned you would not have posted it.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 10:00 AM
Sep 2021

Own it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
130. You know why I posted the OP? Fact is, I don't like people who don't pay their taxes, rich or poor..
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:36 AM
Sep 2021

None of us should like people who don't pay their taxes. Do you think it's okay?

Plus, based on documents posted elsewhere here, this wasn't a one-time oversight or error. The fact that she's failed to pay her taxes is habitual. She's been short on tax payments for years, most recently July 2021 (just about 2 months ago).

https://appext20.dos.ny.gov/stwarrants_public/stw_warrants?p_name=CULTURAL+BROKERAGE+AGENCY+LLC&p_lapsed=0

One would think the girlfriend of an heir to a billion dollar fortune would have a good tax accountant.

Nixie

(16,976 posts)
158. LOL! If you are going to be a scold about the rich and
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:31 PM
Sep 2021

Last edited Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:08 PM - Edit history (1)

taxes…then hang out with a tax cheat. Wow! And the scolds were not only directed at RWers, as you know. There were years of innuendo about supposedly corrupt Democrats, all BS.

Edit:the scold comment was about messaging from a campaign.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
188. Talking about scolds. LOL you seem to be sure that AOC was in some silly ployt and knew all about
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:44 PM
Sep 2021

som designers tax problems. Talk about bullshit nixie, this is rw bullshit . You should try scolding republicans instead of good Democrats. Now run along and complain about these women who have worn her designs

Diana Veras, Imaan Hammam, Solange, Beyoncé. to name just a few.




Nixie

(16,976 posts)
197. Quit trying to smear other women. The same was done to
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:55 PM
Sep 2021

Maloney here when she was just wearing a dress about women’s rights. None of those women you mentioned are proxies of a failed campaign and failed messaging. None of those women you mentioned slimed popular Democrats with nasty innuendo about corruption.

Also, I won’t be “running along.” I vote for the winners in the mainstream of my party so I’m here to stay. It’s the losers who have to come to terms with reality and start “running along” and accept that the hypocrisy has been exposed, yet again.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
203. Silly me. I forgot it's only acceptable to smear young progressive Democrats.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:17 PM
Sep 2021
AOC has slimed no Democrats with nasty innuendo about corruption. She may have told the truth about one or two and given republicans hell about their corruption, that does seem to piss off quite a few people. She also has not called anyone an old man, even when they deserve it by being nasty with her.

Nixie

(16,976 posts)
218. Please. We all know that "progressive" in her case is
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 03:31 PM
Sep 2021

about Bernie. There are many progressive Democrats long before he came along, so he/she don’t have exclusive rights to that word —used mostly to browbeat people. We all know what he said about Democrats, so your statements are just not accurate. His messaging was rejected, and that’s reality.

We also know which Democrats AOC referred to via Bernie’s campaign with smears of corruption by chanting Wall Street, etc. This is old well-known history.

But it is funny the obsession some have with Joe Manchin. He uses some of the tactics that another fringe politician uses, lol.


Nixie

(16,976 posts)
240. Again not making any sense. I voted for a candidate
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:11 PM
Sep 2021

that beat Bernie, so no. I’m thrilled. No reason to repeat messaging from a losing campaign, though, so no to that, too. Sorry!

George II

(67,782 posts)
244. No one is smearing a young progressive Democrat, or a Democrat at all. People are "smearing"...
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:47 PM
Sep 2021

...(if that's what you want to call it) a person who has had habitual problems with paying her taxes - in now four jurisdictions: Federal, NYS, NYC, and Los Angeles.

From what can be gleaned, Aurora James (the subject of this discussion) is not a Democrat inasmuch as it appears she's not an American citizen.

I wonder who she's supporting in tomorrow's Federal election?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
110. Why is it embarrassing? I think it's simply become a monumental oops!!!
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 10:26 AM
Sep 2021

Are we now filtering & sanitizing what's questioned about our Dem Reps & Sens?
Since When?

Show me one day on DU that is void of any one of our Dems being taken to task for decisions they've made.
I'll wait...


RAB910

(3,511 posts)
131. When did we make mountain out of molehills to attack Democrats
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:38 AM
Sep 2021

like the GOP/anti-American right?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
151. Aaahhhaaahaaa! If you missed the last 2 elections & every week since then, well ...
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:22 PM
Sep 2021

Checking the wayback machine....Yup! Pretty much every day!!

That's a real smdh statement.
Ha!

Me.

(35,454 posts)
144. You Think This Is A MoleHill?
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:51 AM
Sep 2021

The entire situation is a mess... from accepting as a gift an appearance at a function where a ticket costs $30-35K each, or $275k a table, wearing a finger wagging gown only to find out the designer is one of the tax cheats that is costing this country money. This will come back to bite the rep even bigger than it is now.

Demsrule86

(68,683 posts)
126. No it is not. How many times are we told that Manchin is the devil and Sinema's clothing choices
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:16 AM
Sep 2021

are always a hot topic...but when the tables turn, you are all upset. Honestly, Manchin and Sinema keep us in the majority. AOC is in a deep blue Democratic district. I like her, but I didn't like the 'tax the rich dress' personally and I think this is pretty funny actually. It won't hurt AOC, she is very popular, and this is more amusing than damaging. But if this became an earth-shattering scandal (which it won't), we still keep the seat and that is all that matters to me at this moment.

mcar

(42,374 posts)
231. This!
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 04:19 PM
Sep 2021

Some of the same people complaining that this OP is a (non-existent) smear on AOC have no problem truly smearing other Democrats, calling them DINOs, Republicans, Corporate wh#$es, warmongers, etc.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
112. Duers are RWingers now? WOW!
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 10:40 AM
Sep 2021

Will quote this next time a sensationalist Politico Headline shows up. Now that they've been bought by a foreigh RWinger.

RAB910

(3,511 posts)
134. That is a silly strawman. Although both are making mountains out of molehills to smear Democrats
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:39 AM
Sep 2021

GoCubsGo

(32,093 posts)
119. Yeah, that was my reaction, as well.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 10:56 AM
Sep 2021

I guess AOC is going to have to do a tax audit on who ever makes her clothes every time she gets dressed from here on out? SMGDH. This smacks of the bullshit they pushed about Barack Obama allegedly being BFFEs with Bill Ayers, just because they both attended the same event once.

SYFROYH

(34,183 posts)
118. "Tax the Rich" is about systematic taxation issues not...
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 10:54 AM
Sep 2021

...individual discrepancies on individual companies’ at bills.

I see no irony. Just a poor attempt at a gotcha moment.

Demsrule86

(68,683 posts)
127. No, this person needs to pay her taxes...how is she allowed to owe this much with impunity...when
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:22 AM
Sep 2021

we owed taxes due to an honest mistake, we received a threatening letter and had to begin a payment plan immediately...ordinary people are even taxed on Social Security and Unemployment...so I think this is an example of what is wrong with our tax system...apparently, the color of IRS justice is green- just like our justice system overall.

George II

(67,782 posts)
190. Apparently there's a disconnect between "tax the rich" and "get the rich to pay".....
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:45 PM
Sep 2021

It's obvious, in this case at least, the rich did get taxed but the rich didn't pay those taxes.

Maybe we need a new slogan?

Nixie

(16,976 posts)
122. LOL! Love the heads exploding over this!
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:08 AM
Sep 2021

It’s amazing to see how tangential associations are now so irrelevant after years of just regurgitating “Wall Street” and that meant…guilty! Haha!!

Thank you, George!

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
149. Luke Hayes is prob in meltdown spinning the message for brother Chris.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:17 PM
Sep 2021

If anyone can put a bandaid on an open media bleeding wound its those 2.

Luke & Chris. Quite the gig they got!

Demsrule86

(68,683 posts)
128. Good post George and when Just-Us Democrats go after rich donors or those
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:25 AM
Sep 2021

Democrats, they donate too...I will be reminded of this post.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
154. K & R !!
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:26 PM
Sep 2021

It's pretty sickening.
Like a middle finger to those who supported & took the slogan serious enough to answer their fundraising call.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
135. I guess Taxing the Rich goes out the door now?
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:40 AM
Sep 2021

I mean, AOC obviously knew that James owed back taxes and still used her. It was deliberate because she's such a huge hypocrite and doesn't really want to Tax the Rich. "Find me a dress by a tax deadbeat designer, I need to sabotage the plan to Tax the Rich or it's going to succeed!" she screamed at her overworked staffers.

Now Taxing the Rich will never happen, and it was all but a sure thing because Sinema & Manchin were surely on board with it...



 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
162. Checking for their legislative policy plan to go with their slogan....
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 12:36 PM
Sep 2021

5 years later.
Anyone? Maybe I missed it.

Nixie

(16,976 posts)
202. +1, plus they don't acknowledge that Bill Clinton actually taxed
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:11 PM
Sep 2021

the rich and left office with a balanced budget. There is also never mention of Al Gore, a pioneer in climate change from decades ago. It’s all slogans.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
215. CHIP, 1997, Bill & Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 03:07 PM
Sep 2021

CHIP was established after the comprehensive health care reform proposed by the then president Bill Clinton failed. The late Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy and Senator Orin Grant Hatch were co-sponsors of the bill with significant support from Hillary Clinton.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK539903/

Children's Health Insurance Program

In 1997, a significant milestone was established in health care delivery for children in the United States of America. The United States Congress made a special provision in the Balanced Budget Act of 1997. The Act established the State Children Health Insurance Program (CHIP), which is Title XXI of the Social Security Act.[1]

This legislation was deemed at the time as the single most important investment in children’s health care. The Children Health Insurance Program (CHIP) does not provide universal health coverage for every child, but rather it opened up insurance coverage for a large pool of uninsured children.
MORE

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
239. IKR! It's as though the history of the major humanitarian works of our great Democratic Party...
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 04:59 PM
Sep 2021

...somehow didn't exist before the year 2015.

It's crazy ain't it?

Nixie

(16,976 posts)
241. Yup! It's inexcusable.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:18 PM
Sep 2021

Ignoring history hasn’t been good for young voters, either, but looks like they are catching on.

Lancero

(3,014 posts)
177. The rest of MBFC's writeup on Mediaite says a lot about this article.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:20 PM
Sep 2021
We also rate them Mostly Factual in reporting rather than High due to misleading, sensational headlines and the occasional use of poor sources.


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mediaite/

Sensationalist headline, and originally sourced from NY Post. Seems pretty accurate. No surprise that you left that particular bit out about improper sourcing when you decided to use MBFC as a defense for posting RW talking points.

Whats next, gonna start posting stuff sourced from Breitbart?
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
216. Oh my my. There have been many links on DU from Mediate.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 03:09 PM
Sep 2021

Only THIS one seems to have triggeed a new rule.
🙄

Lancero

(3,014 posts)
222. How many of them were originally sourced from RW 'news' sites?
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 03:46 PM
Sep 2021

Here's a nice writeup on their source - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/

I take it that you consider the New York Post to be a perfectly accurate and acceptable source of information?

Edit - Seriously though, if you want to rely on a RW hit piece to make a point then at least have the honesty and integrity to own that rather than disingenuously use Mediaite as a smokescreen.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
238. Have you read Maureen Dowd's piece on this ordeal! Wooheee
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 04:55 PM
Sep 2021

Rwers gonna RW.

Wadda ya gonna do

I respectfully won't link it here.

Later

Lancero

(3,014 posts)
270. And none of those documents back the articles headline.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:05 PM
Sep 2021

None of them support the claim that Aurora James has 100k in unpaid debt. Of the state tax warrants, only two were personally attributed to her - Both of which were quickly settled. And the big federal tax lien is against another person entirely.

Unless their are other documents, I think it's pretty accurate to say that the claims that Aurora James has $100k of tax debt is a big load of bullshit.

George II

(67,782 posts)
273. The documents do support the "claim" (it's not merely a claim) that she WAS delinquent....
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:25 PM
Sep 2021

....in paying taxes, more than a dozen times.

There's also the LA County document, too.

Lancero

(3,014 posts)
277. No, the documents only back three.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:38 PM
Sep 2021

Of the 15 tax warrants, she was only listed as personally liable for two. Both paid. Between that and the $2,500 in property taxes she owes you've got, at best, a argument that she needs to replace whoever handles her taxes with someone more competent.

And the supposed 100k in Federal debt? The document only shows 55k... And it's attributed to another person entirely.

What was the article headline again? Oh - "Designer of AOC's 'Tax The Rich' Met Gala Dress Owes Over $100K in Back Taxes"

Yeah. Inaccurate bullshit at best, standard stuff for the New York Post.

lapucelle

(18,327 posts)
288. Read the documents again. Cultural Brokerage is Aurora James LLC.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:23 AM
Sep 2021

There are two "members", one of whom is Aurora James.
https://www.dandb.com/businessdirectory/culturalbrokerageagencyllc-brooklyn-ny-33492823.html

That's why the lien documents name her both personally and as a corporate entity:

AURORA JAMES
INDIVIDUALLY AND AS A RESPONSIBLE PERSON OF
CULTURAL BROKERAGE AGENCY LLC


Cultural Brokerage LLC is the parent company of Brother Vellies whose original name was Schier Shoes. Aurora James partnered with Schier when she first began marketing the vellies that Dutch Afrikaners founded businesses upon. Schier is the other "member" of Cultural Brokerage LLC.

Yes, it is complicated to unwind; that's advantageous to the wealthy, especially when they are skirting their tax responsibilities.

It's stunning when the rich fail to pay their federal taxes, the rent on storefronts in tony NYC neighborhoods, the rent on shops in trendy Brooklyn, and the property taxes on their second homes on the west coast. Maybe the gown was meant as hipster irony.

It's not enough to tax the rich. They also need to be called out when they fail to pay what little tax is already levied on them and their corporate entities.

***************************************************************************************

Wealthy tax scofflaw Aurora James walked the red carpet at the Met gala, proud as can be.

You can see Ms James in her trademark halo hat, to the left and in front of the stooped-over staffer who's carrying the train of the gown worn by the representative from NY-14.

I wonder what he thought of the dress.

*****************************************************************************************






JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,367 posts)
178. The design looked like plagiarism, anyway.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:24 PM
Sep 2021

It reminded me of a certain coat, with "I don't care, do you?" written on it with a big paintbrush.

Slogans are for t-shirts and ball caps.

I hope AOC didn't actually have to pay for that outfit.

George II

(67,782 posts)
313. Actually the plagiarism is more direct. There was a dress worn by Joy Villa....
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:06 PM
Sep 2021

....at the 2019 Grammy Awards. It was shockingly similar right down to the main color dress and lettering on the back.

I won't post the pictures here, but they're easy to find: "Joy Villa 2019 Grammys".

jalan48

(13,886 posts)
201. Bombshell. Big corporations and the wealthy don't pay their fair share of taxes. Quick! Change
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:11 PM
Sep 2021

the focus to something else.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
260. Seriously, why is this a knock against AOC or the designer?
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 09:48 PM
Sep 2021

If anything, "tax the rich" sounds more credible from an affluent former tax evader.

George II

(67,782 posts)
263. It's only a "knock" (if you want to use that word) against the designer, who created a dress....
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 10:33 PM
Sep 2021

....that said "Tax the Rich", knowing all too well that SHE is rich, she was taxed, but repeatedly failed to pay those taxes. In four jurisdictions - Federal, NYS, NYC, and LA County.

By the way, at last report the designer is still Canadian, so it's not a "knock" against ANY Democrats, but perhaps against an NDP or Liberal. We don't know.

BTW, who is the "affluent former tax evader" of which you speak? Richard Nixon?

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
265. Obviously AOC taught her the error of her ways
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 10:44 PM
Sep 2021

So thanks for posting the heartwarming redemption tale

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
291. These defenses of the designer are totally absurd.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 08:03 AM
Sep 2021

The message isn't more believable coming from the tax evading designer. That's as ridiculous as saying that the message of "big pharma is corrupt" sounds more credible from someone who profits from and has a cozy relationship with big pharma (or big jet-fighters, or big nuclear-waste, or big whatever-else.)

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
294. Yes, nobody is allowed to change and grow
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 12:32 PM
Sep 2021

I would actually welcome former tax evaders getting behind AOC's message of taxing the rich, and I would embrace former Jill Stein voters voting Democrat, but that's just me, I'm unique like that.

George II

(67,782 posts)
298. Perhaps, but we could have said that on Nov 12, 2015, when Ms. James satisfied her first warrant...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 02:47 PM
Sep 2021

But then there were two more on May 4, 2017
And another one on June 8, 2017
And two more on Sept 21, 2017
And two more on May 17, 2018
And two more on June 7, 2018
And another one on Oct 18, 2018
And another one on Dec 13, 2018*
And another one on Feb 7, 2019*
And another one on Oct 10, 2019*
And the last on Jul 1, 2021, which was satisfied on Aug 25, 2021.

*still outstanding, not satisfied

So how many more before you can definitively say "problem solved then", especially since Ms. James/Cultural Brokerage Agency LLC still has three outstanding.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
299. Recidivism is a difficult habit from which to break free.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:43 PM
Sep 2021

Ms. James is definitely not a beacon of responsibility, is she? These desperate efforts to portray her differently than she truly is are completely absurd... although very amusing.

It's like hearing a politician say something like "...anyone who takes money from Big Pharma is corrupt... except ME! I'm different! It doesn't count when I do it." --- Or when someone like Nina Turner blasts "outside money" coming in to support her opponent... but failing to see the hypocrisy because she, herself, benefited greatly from "outside money". That was funny too. Absurd, but funny.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
303. She didn't need to be that blatant...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 04:33 PM
Sep 2021

... she just refuses to pay, until forced, or threatened with immanent or impending legal consequences and other penalties.

we'd be having a different conversation
That's a distinction without a difference. Keep trying.


NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
309. That's a good one. But populist slogans need a boogeyman...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:45 PM
Sep 2021

... someone evil; someone to hate; someone to fear; someone to distrust. There must be an "other" ... if you know what I mean.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
300. Majority of tax warrants resolved then
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 04:18 PM
Sep 2021

That's excellent progress and I'm sure everyone looks forward to her paying back the rest of her debt

Too bad some people objectively care more about a clothing designer facing tax enforcement action than the fact that Amazon paid zero corporate taxes in 2018.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
308. Paying taxes is not progress
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:27 PM
Sep 2021

Once again, look forward to her paying back her taxes. I consider this a win, since most wealthy people don't face tax enforcement.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
310. It certainly doesn't mitigate the designer's hypocrisy...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:49 PM
Sep 2021

... she can't be trusted. She has a problem with authority. She's insincere and an opportunist. She's looking for any publicity at all (even if she disagrees with it) because it will help to keep her afloat. (It's kinda like those voice actors that do the negative ads for whichever candidate is running negative ads... the voice actor doesn't necessarily agree with the words he or she is reading... but, it helps to pay keep the lights on and the rent paid... so they do it anyway.)

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