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634-5789

(4,175 posts)
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 05:52 AM Sep 2021

The Vaccinated Are Paying For The Unvaccinated As COVID Hospitalizations Cost Medicare $24,000 Each

According to the Kaiser Family Foundation:

Our analysis of HHS and CDC data indicates there were 32,000 preventable COVID-19 hospitalizations in June, 68,000 preventable COVID-19 hospitalizations in July, and another 187,000 preventable COVID-19 hospitalizations among unvaccinated adults in the U.S. in August, for a total of 287,000 across the three months. We explain more on how we arrived at these numbers below.

If each of these preventable hospitalizations cost roughly $20,000, on average, that would mean these largely avoidable hospitalizations have already cost billions of dollars since the beginning of June.

From June through August 2021, preventable COVID-19 hospitalizations among unvaccinated adults cost over $5 Billion

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/unvaccinated-covid-patients-cost-the-u-s-health-system-billions-of-dollars
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The Vaccinated Are Paying For The Unvaccinated As COVID Hospitalizations Cost Medicare $24,000 Each (Original Post) 634-5789 Sep 2021 OP
Unfortunately this is the case Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #1
There are those who would deny care to those they disapprove of. Igel Sep 2021 #3
That's exactly why I do not support not paying a groups medical jimfields33 Sep 2021 #4
You have your opinion Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #5
A stay in the hospital with the sort of care lapfog_1 Sep 2021 #2
There was a guy mentioned on Reddit, in ICU for 7 weeks. Swede Sep 2021 #6
One way or another, we all get stuck lapfog_1 Sep 2021 #11
Raise their healthcare insurance rates to reflect the risk! The Jungle 1 Sep 2021 #7
I agree 70sEraVet Sep 2021 #8
The best option is palliative care quarantine facilities. roamer65 Sep 2021 #9
My own insurance is increasing rates, decreasing coverage Johonny Sep 2021 #10
Get vaccinated, morans! LisaL Sep 2021 #12

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. Unfortunately this is the case
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 06:08 AM
Sep 2021

I would deny treatment to the unvaccinated, but that’s just my opinion.

Igel

(35,274 posts)
3. There are those who would deny care to those they disapprove of.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:27 AM
Sep 2021

I knew people who would have gladly denied treatment to those suffering from AIDS.

There are people outraged that gender reassignment surgery is covered by tax money in many instances.

Or that lung cancer due to smoking, heart disease due to obesity should be covered.

They obviously don't think that health care is a human right. Or perhaps that "those people" aren't really and truly human. Dunno.

jimfields33

(15,693 posts)
4. That's exactly why I do not support not paying a groups medical
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 07:33 AM
Sep 2021

Whose the next group to get refused payment? Nope we pay constantly for many medical issues that some would love to stop.

lapfog_1

(29,191 posts)
2. A stay in the hospital with the sort of care
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 06:28 AM
Sep 2021

that a Covid patient needs is likely much more than $20,000.

I'm thinking 4 or 5 times that amount... the ICU patients are likely hitting closer to the $.5 M mark.

The wife of a close friend of mine died of cancer and ran up an ICU bill of over $1M dollars (that was the max the insurance would cover). She was in and out of the hospital only a few times for a total of maybe 2 weeks. She died at home.

and that was 15 years ago. I'm sure it is more expensive now.

Swede

(33,206 posts)
6. There was a guy mentioned on Reddit, in ICU for 7 weeks.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 08:06 AM
Sep 2021

And the way it was talked about, no one seemed shocked by the length of time. He died of course, so not sure who gets stuck with the tab.

lapfog_1

(29,191 posts)
11. One way or another, we all get stuck
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 01:57 PM
Sep 2021

if covered by his medical insurance, our insurance rates will go up.

if covered by Medicare or medicaid, our taxes will pay for it.

If not covered, the hospital will simply charge other patients more who are covered by either insurance or medicare... and then see steps 1 and 2.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
7. Raise their healthcare insurance rates to reflect the risk!
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 08:36 AM
Sep 2021

Companies are allowed to deny employment if you use tobacco. There is no reason they can't deny employment if someone refuses the vaccine. Want to sit at a bar then show your vaccine card. After all you have prove your age to sit at the bar. Want to go to a ball game show your card.

70sEraVet

(3,474 posts)
8. I agree
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 08:42 AM
Sep 2021

Auto insurance companies have designated certain groups of people as high-risk customers, and charge them higher rates.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
9. The best option is palliative care quarantine facilities.
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:29 AM
Sep 2021

Food, water, cot and morphine for the unvaccinated.

Cheap and effective.

Declare a statewide crisis if care and this can be done, no problemo.

Johonny

(20,818 posts)
10. My own insurance is increasing rates, decreasing coverage
Sun Sep 19, 2021, 11:37 AM
Sep 2021

I assume to save due to cost of covid. All I know is my insurance is worse than ever.

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