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"My husband and I said, 'No, we're not (getting vaccinated). We don't know about it. It's not going to happen," said Torri, a friend of Robby's and an employee at Susan's real estate title business.
"We were a 'no no no no no no.' And then Robby happened. It made us think twice."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/19/health/florida-man-inspires-covid-vaccinations/index.html
Editing to say the story is about one family, but I wanted to share the quote that someone actually woke up and got the vaccine. Sad it takes something like this to do it.
Scrivener7
(50,773 posts)Ocelot II
(115,276 posts)Scrivener7
(50,773 posts)Ocelot II
(115,276 posts)And it's likely people suffering from those other afflictions are often unable to gain access to them on account of mostly unvaccinated covid patients.
NutmegYankee
(16,177 posts)As much as the unvaxxed annoy us, if we can save someone without risking others we should.
For instance, the hospital nearest me, William W. Backus Hospital, only has 20% of the ICU beds occupied.
Arkansas Granny
(31,483 posts)statement that they weren't anti-vaxxers. Unless you have a medical condition that prevents you from being vaccinated and you still say no, you are an anti-vaxxer. I have run out of sympathy for them.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)Their backstory is different than that of most anti-vaxxers. Specifically this:
"But they were concerned after a family friend's relative started trembling a week after her vaccination in March. Torri said that family believes it was the result of the vaccination, though the cause is not certain."
Don't get me wrong. I think they made the wrong call here, I don't think they showed good judgement. But their fear and misjudgment was rooted in an actual negative experience of someone who they personally knew, even if there is no proof that a vaccine shot caused that person any problem, let alone any life threatening one. This is so different from the people who just pick up unverified disinformation garbage from anonymous people about other anonymous people on the internet.
yardwork
(61,417 posts)I have no sympathy.
This goes in the same category as "I had breakfast on Monday and the following week I tripped on the sidewalk - I'll never eat breakfast again!"
Arkansas Granny
(31,483 posts)their health care provider. They decided to risk it and nearly lost the gamble.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)I said I had "some sympathy" for them. From what little I can tell they may not be total assholes, but they did make really stupid choices, as you rightly point out. The reason I have "some" sympathy for them is because they seemingly had a personal real life reference point that played into all the anti-vaccer propaganda that floods social media, which probably made them more susceptible to the lies. I have NO sympathy for the liars who promote the conspiracy theories, who try to impose their crazed beliefs on others, and then get Covid.
Some point out here that accepting that something supposedly happened to a relative of a friend is ridiculously gullible at best. That could well be, but I have some close friends who I would totally trust if they told me they knew that something happened to one of their relatives. That seemed to have unnerved these particular people, but yes they made very stupid choices, as a result of being spooked, that almost proved fatal. So "some sympathy", but if I knew them personally I would not hold back lecturing them on their stupidity and calling upon them to now do what they can now to counter the anti-vaccer lies with people that they know.
cadoman
(792 posts)VAERS, after a consultation with your doctor and their hospital, is the proper place to report any "reactions" you experience. This allows medical professionals to examine them and determine if by some rare chance they are actually vaccine related (highly unlikely).
Sometimes the misinformation begins with us not expressing sufficiently how much happier and healthier we feel after vaccination.
Deep State Witch
(10,350 posts)Okay, real talk. I wound up having shoulder issues after my second vaccine. Of course, I stupidly got it in my dominant arm, then went an did a 6-hour beading class on Zoom the weekend after it. So, yeah, I got a repetitive motion injury. Another friend had stiffness in her hip joint for many weeks following her second vaccine - which happened a few months after she had mild COVID in January. Was it related? She thinks so, but it's probably not. I personally know people who had bad reactions to the shots so bad that they were hospitalized. You know what both of them said? "If this is what COVID is like, I'm glad that I got the shot!"
Whatever side effects from the shot you manage to get, COVID is 1000x worse.
Midnight Writer
(21,546 posts)An unsubstantiated claim that cannot be tracked down and proven or disproven.
Jan Brunvaard's Urban Legends has hundreds of "friend of a friend", or FOAF, stories. It is a flashing warning that the information is not reliable.
tanyev
(42,358 posts)This is the problem with dropping mask mandates along with fully reopening businesses. When a state allows businesses to reopen and says wearing a mask is a 'personal decision', too many who aren't paying enough attention assume it's safe to get back out there like they did before Covid. Because the state wouldn't allow it if it weren't safe, right?????
Hugin
(32,778 posts)That "We'd beaten this thing" (i have a collection of screen shots of media reports at the time saying exactly that for pulling out after after the great scrubbing) when it was still actually in the next village over picking up steam.
lame54
(35,138 posts)The state is allowing business's to open so they must know what they are talking about
How convenient
When the state says get vaxxed and mask up
"I don't need no state guvment to tell me what to do."
Hugin
(32,778 posts)Drat, beaten by "The New England Journal of Friends of Friends Cousins" again.
Aristus
(66,093 posts)That's an idiocy on the level with "I'm running for public office, but I'm not a politician!"
lame54
(35,138 posts)Show me your work
Ummm - well I've some bad things about it