They may have found Gabby Petito

[Dreampuff]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/unidentified-body-found-area-search-gabby-petito/story?id=80114293

[gldstwmn]

1. Now where's the boyfriend?

[PTWB]

2. Probably working on his self defense trial strategy with his attorney.

[PoliticAverse]

10. Yes, considering he has police witnesses to her confessing she hit him I would expect that

to be his defense.

[honest.abe]

16. Meanwhile the Laundrie family released this statment..

New statement from Laundrie family attorney:

The news about Gabby Petito is heartbreaking. The Laundrie family prays for Gabby and her family.

Link to tweet

The identification of body has not been confirmed but seems they know its her. How?

[Thomas Hurt]

3. skipped the country or offed himself.

[chowder66]

4. They are talking about it on CNN. nt

[Treefrog]

5. I hope they find him.

Looks like his hometown police dropped the ball on this.

[Mariana]

25. What do you think his hometown police should have done differently? nt.

[wnylib]

6. If this is her, I am very sorry that she became

a victim of someone, likely her boyfriend.

But are we going back to the time when a missing or murdered white woman becomes the focus of media attention for days and weeks at a time? I do not in any way wish to minimize the problems and dangers that women face. I am a survivor of an abusive relationship in which my abuser threatened to kill me and tried a few times. I am also white, but have a Native grandmother.

There is a huge problem in the US and Canada of missing and murdered Native women that doesn't get addressed. Quite often, their cases get minimal, if any, investigative attention by law enforecement.

I can't speak for African American women, but I am sure that there are many who also end up missing and/or murdered.

Yet missing and murdered Native and Black women do not become the focus of nonstop media attention. The media attention to individual cases of missing and murdered white women does not address the problem. In fact, the coverage begins to look and sound like entertainment. It's as if the public gets to follow a "real life murder mystery," but without consideration for the fact that it IS real life, and not media entertainment.

This coverage titilates the public's voyeurism, but does nothing to resolve the real problem.

If people really care about missing, murdered, abused, and exploited/trafficked women, they can donate to shelter programs. They can volunteer to be trained as advocates. They can pressure their legislators to improve services for women and to follow through on investigations involving women of color.

[2naSalit]

7. +1

[Dreampuff]

12. I understand what you are saying

I once saw a story about a black woman who was missing and found murdered around the same time as Laci Peterson and I know all too well of the Native American women, and people in general, who are missing or found murdered.

There really is more to this story than just a missing woman. They were both living with his parents about an hour and a half from where I live and even though they took off on their Journey from New York, he came back here with her van and he was alone. He is now also classified as a missing person and they have been doing a huge search for him.

At the same time and in the same place, there was also a couple who was found murdered. They were both female and had posted on social media that they might move their campsite because a creepy man has been following them. They also told their friends a creepy man was bothering them and he was in this exact location at that time.

[LeftInTX]

30. Much of true crime is tabloid fodder

It's happening to someone else in a different part of the country
It's like a Law and Order episode only it's real etc.

Look at OJ..

The media likes cases that can be "wrapped up".
Consumers like to feel that the "bad person got punished".

I know the case of missing Haleigh Cummings dragged on and on with a cast of Florida redneck, drug using inbreds, then it just got depressing and coverage stopped. Haleigh was a 5 year old girl who disappeared from bedroom in 2009. She has never been found. Her dad was at work and his 16 yo GF was babysitting her in their rural Florida trailer.

Both dad and GF are currently in prison for drugs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7639051/New-evidence-released-decade-long-search-Haleigh-Cummings.html

When a case can't be solved consumers lose interest.

[LeftInTX]

32. I'm also looking into the disappearance of an African-American man which occurred right near me.

He was working at a bar next to a Sonic Drive In. It's in an "urban/suburban" area with plenty of fast food and retail.
But...here's why the case if frustrating. He had only been living in the area for 2 months. His mom lives up in Dallas. She spoke to him one morning and he said he had put his 2 week notice in and was going to come back to Dallas. He showed up for work and left at 8:35 PM. He was never heard from again.

The thing that's frustrating, it took a week to report him missing. The mom isn't quite familiar with the area and said, "He went under the bridge to get home". There is no indication of WHERE he was living that was made public. Also the name released to the media may not be his legal name. So no one knows direction he was heading. Going under the bridge could mean four different directions.

Mom has been appeared in the media several times. They always giver her a sit down interview, but I don't get much substance or clues from her.

This happened 6 years ago.

If something happened under the bridge, there could be evidence of foul play. No evidence of cadaver dogs employed.

[wnylib]

34. This raises a lot of questions. Why the delay

in reporting him missing? How old was he? How soon after giving his notice did he disappear? Same day? A few days later?

Even if he was there only a few months, he must have known people there, either before he moved there or after, like coworkers, neighbors, places in the area where he shopped, etc. Did he have a car? If so, is it missing? If not, did he use public transportation or get rides from someone? Did anyone show or post photos of him?

Did police take the reports of his disappearance seriously or just shrug it off by saying he's an adult and free to go where he wants without telling anyone?

What is the racial atmosphere in the area like? Tense? Could he have been the victim if a hate crime?

So many things to know about him and look into in order to find out what happened. The week time lapse would make him harder to track down, too.

[LeftInTX]

42. Oh wow. I found a Dateline article about him.

Last edited Mon Sep 20, 2021, 09:02 AM - Edit history (3)

According to to his aunt. in the beginning of November, Jordan moved out of her house and moved in to a co-worker’s apartment nearby. Lisa said they kept messaging in the days after he moved out, and nothing seemed out of the ordinary.

“On November 7 around 9:00 a.m., I got a text message from Jordan saying he had given his two weeks’ notice in to work,” Lisa told Dateline. “He wanted to come back and live with me for a few weeks before moving back to Fort Worth before Thanksgiving.”

His aunt told Dateline, he planned on moving from his co-worker’s apartment back to Lisa’s house some time the following day.

There are two last seen addresses for him. One is his work and one is an apartment address nearby. He had only lived at the apartment for 7 days. The police report has the apartment as his last seen address.
The area is mixed ethnicity/mixed income. Where he disappeared, it's 65% Hispanic, however some areas are 80% Hispanic.
Don't think it was a hate crime.
He was reported missing by his aunt on Nov 10th.
There is a police report and he is in Namus.


We had a young pretty, professional white woman murdered near where he was walking. She wasn't reported missing, but someone actually witnessed her being killed. She was jogging at the time. The guy who did it was a psycho. It probably didn't make national news because it happened quickly and he was apprehended quickly. The story was pretty big locally because it was the first time in years that someone had been murdered in a city park. Our city park trails are fairly new, so the city upped park police presence and started a volunteer program after her murder. Previous park murders had been drug deals gone wrong.

We have lots of missing people from here. Look up any city in America and you will find dozens of missing people. All different colors, ages etc. Most do not make headlines. These are some who are considered by the FBI to be foul play: https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap
Here are more missing persons: https://www.nbcnews.com/missing-in-america

The story of every missing person needs to be told. https://www.yahoo.com/now/look-missing-murdered-indigenous-women-002200745.html. Faith Hedgepeth's murder was solved a few days ago. Her case was solved from DNA. She was murdered in 2012. She was a student at the University of North Carolina and is Native-American. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith_Hedgepeth_homicide

[wnylib]

49. Yes, I know that all cities, towns, and rural

areas have their share of missing people, especially women. There are two unsolved cases in my area that stayed in the news for several months, even years. Both are white women. One was partially solved when remains were found and the case went to trial. Two men involved were charged, but both denied being the actual killer. One turned state's evidence, but part of his testimony was proven to be false so the other guy was acquitted. The one who gave false testimony was convicted of perjury, but not of murder because it was not possible to prove that he did it.

The other one was a woman that I had known from work, although neither of us worked at the same place anymore at the time of her disappearance. I saw her in a supermarket and spoke with her briefly just minutes before she disappeared so her case haunts me still, several years later. The chief suspect was her estranged husband, with good reason. His possessiveness and threats to her were the reason why they were estranged. But she has never been found, so he has never been charged since prosecutors can't prove that she is dead.

She left the supermarket that day and was never seen again. There is a national forest near here and it would be the perfect place to hide a body. It has a lot of old growth trees and hundreds of acres that are seldom if ever seen by human beings. My guess is that the husband killed her and hid the body there. He is, or was at the time, an outdoorsman more familiar with the forested area than most people.

[LeftInTX]

50. We have numerous children murdered here in the 90s

Heidi Seeman age 11 (Abduction, witnessed by her friend)
Erica Botello age 6 (Case is considered closed, but not prosecutable...The person who committed the crime has an IQ under 60)
And holy shit, they just arrested someone in the Emily Garcia (age 15) case! https://www.kwtx.com/2021/09/15/cold-case-solved-texas-man-arrested-connection-teens-1993-murder/ Speculation has been that the same person who killed Heidi killed Emily, but now with his arrest, I'm not sure. He was 21 at the time. I assumed the person that murdered Emily was in his 30s. Just based on where the body was found and that Galindo knew Emily. (Someone must have talked.)

[wnylib]

51. Sounds like you follow these cases closely.

I only know what is covered by media in my area. I have heard that some people follow cases online and try to help solve them, sometimes with good success in finding overlooked clues or new angles.

Is that what you do?

[LeftInTX]

52. I follow them and discuss them, but that's about it

I'm certainly no expert and this guy they just arrested knew the victim. I thought maybe it was an older stranger that she had gotten a ride with. Emily ran with a really rough crowd, but I still thought it was an older white person who did it because she was found in another county in a fairly affluent area.

[wnylib]

53. I should pay closer attention

to what goes on here. I have probably missed less covered cases.

[GoCubsGo]

8. Good. Now, maybe they can start covering the 710 indigenous people who have been reported missing

in that part of Wyoming over the past decade, most of them girls. Seventy percent of them don't even get a mention in the local news, let alone make national headlines. That's only for young, blonde white women, apparently.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/710-indigenous-people-mostly-girls-042150990.html

[boston bean]

27. Good? They found her and she is dead. That's all anyone should care about?

[GoCubsGo]

38. No, as I pointed out in my post,we should care about all the others who are missing,

and are being completely ignored. But, I guess some don't care about them==even right after I just mention them.

[boston bean]

40. Who is ignoring them? Me?

[GoCubsGo]

41. Most people are ignring them.

When's the last time one of their disappearances made the national headlines?

[boston bean]

43. Yes that is true. But why do you think attractive young blond women

Once and a while make the news?

[GoCubsGo]

44. I think you know why.

[boston bean]

45. I,do know why. I am wondering what your thoughts are?

[GoCubsGo]

46. My original post sums up my thoughts on the matter.

Good day.

[boston bean]

47. It doesn't really explain. Why do you think they focus on young attractive blond women?

Once in a while. I guess you are saying that young attractive white blond women are more important than others?

I think other factors come in to play. Do you?

[EndlessWire]

31. I know you didn't mean that the way it sounded.

Hating on a victim just because she is White doesn't make sense. This story hit the national news because the boyfriend returned without her. That piece of information ramps up the interest, plus the fact that it was her own fiance that probably did it. And, he ran home to his parents. There are large chunks of information or clues available that sparked the interest. Please don't say that she doesn't matter because she is White and blonde. Everybody matters.

The attention span of the public is about a week and a half; this will probably last longer because now the boyfriend has disappeared. Please don't say that this woman doesn't matter. She matters to her family, friends, and colleagues.

[wnylib]

35. I didn't get the impression that the poster

was "hating on" the victim or saying that she doesn't matter. What I got from the post was anger at society for treating some victims as if they don't matter because they aren't white. Long before Gabby went missing, people in Native communities have been very angry that hundreds of Native women go missing and LE does nothing to find them, or to find their murderers if their bodies turn up. Pleas to take their cases seriously and investigate them are ignored.

Then the media goes into a frenzy of coverage over one woman. The difference in treatment of victims is what makes people angry. With good reason.

[GoCubsGo]

39. Yes, thank you.

And, my critics here are proving my point when they completely gloss over what I posted about the missing indigenous people.

[wnylib]

48. They don't know about Native issues

so they don't "get it" when someone comments on it.

They don't realize that when they say that abductions or murders are issues for all women that it is the same as saying to an African American who supports Black Lives Matter that "All lives matter."

[GoCubsGo]

37. Of course i didn't mean it that way.

And, the only "hating" I'm doing is on the way the media treats individuals who disappear. Spare me your lecture.

[EndlessWire]

54. Nobody has lectured you.

I couldn't care less whether you get it or not. It is plain from reading many other comments from other DUers that the fact that a young woman has probably died a senseless death at the hands of an alleged loved one means less than the agenda of doing something about the lack of attention on missing young women of color. It is always something like that on DU that turns my stomach. It is my contention that ALL people matter, and not just BLM, or other races, or sexes, or nationalities. Humans matter. Living beings matter.

It is a shame that anything has to be said at all. This woman could have been brown-haired, brown-eyed, and still complaints would roll forth about how others get ignored, and just because this woman is White. It is racist. But, I'd rather talk to you in another manner less contentious. And, you were the one who said, "Good..." So, now that her body has probably been found, you can drop the concern and turn your attention, and presumably our attention, back on POC who are missing. Even though color really wasn't the reason that the nation was interested in this particular case, because elements of this case are sensationalized without it having anything to do with her effing COLOR.

I just want to assure you, that if you go missing, I will look for you just as hard as I can, even though you may not match my color. That was part of your own little lecture to the nation and readers at DU, about how YOU feel. At some point, we will all agree that color doesn't matter. But, it won't be because you and I are arguing here.

[struggle4progress]

9. FBI: Remains found in Wyoming fit the description

Aleksandra Bush
Posted: SEP 19, 2021 / 04:41 PM CDT | Updated: SEP 19, 2021 / 05:47 PM CDT

DENVER (NewsNation Now) — FBI Denver confirmed Sunday that remains found in Wyoming fit the description of missing .. Petito. The body was found in Teton Park.

“Earlier today, human remains were discovered consistent with Gabrielle Petito,” FBI spokesman Charles Jones said. “Full forensic identification has not been completed to confirm 100% that we found Gabby, but her family has been notified of this discovery.”

... the cause of death was yet to be determined ...

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/west/fbi-denver-holds-press-conference-after-body-found-where-gabby-petito-search-is-underway/

[jimfields33]

20. This is so tragic. I was hoping she was found alive.

Poor family. Never will be the same. Life is so unfair. Worst news in a long time. Big time vibes for this family.

[struggle4progress]

23. Boyfriend refuses to talk with police and flees into hiding seems a big red flag

[jimfields33]

24. Oh for sure. He's guilty.

I think he may or did commit suicide especially since the body was found.

[bluestarone]

11. i'm thinking her boyfriend

Will kill himself! So sad for her.

[honest.abe]

14. Too bad law enforcement could not figure out a way to charge the guy prior to his fleeing.

[Mariana]

26. What could they have charged him with?

Refusing to talk to the police is no crime.

[Progressive Lawyer]

28. They could have at least surveilled him 24/7.

[Mariana]

29. Have they police actually said they don't know where he is? nt.

[honest.abe]

36. Stealing her van?

[Maru Kitteh]

17. Doubt it. Seems pretty entitled. Narcissistic.

Plus, he's a white man. He has considerably less to reason to fear the justice system than others and every hope of leniency or even acquittal.

[honest.abe]

13. Very very sad.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

15. In the meantime, an average of three women a day are killed by their partners.

[Skittles]

22. they don't count unless they are young and white and blonde, WhiskeyGrinder

no INDEED

[Xolodno]

18. Was really hoping this would turn out diffrently.

Never like hearing anyone's life being cut short. Both my wife and I were hoping they just find her at an obscure campground near the Snake River (which there are plenty of).

Even if she was abusing her boyfriend, all he had to do was buy a Greyhound ticket before it got to this point. I suspect they will find him "suicided".

Two lives gone over a once in a lifetime trip that many would consider awe inspiring.

[Dreampuff]

19. This was at least their second cross-country trip

They both loved to travel, according to local news stories. They have apparently known each other for several years and went to school together. When they were stopped in Utah, it was labeled as a mental situation and that neither had been taking their meds. She said she had ocd and she apparently has anxiety issues, but they never released what he was supposed to be on meds for.

There is also the issue of her fiance still being missing and I am still looking for updates on the other murdered couple who were there at the same time and in the same Campground.

[Xolodno]

21. My wife learned the hard way when it came to mental health and meds.

She never misses a dose now.

If they both had mental health issues and not taking the requisite medication...then it was a disaster waiting to happen. We don't do enough in this country for mental health.

[Lancero]

33. I was thinking this was just a publicity stunt gone wrong when I first heard of it...

Travel vloggers with dreams of stardom. Wouldn't be the first time Youtubers did stupid shit to get more subs. Especially since, well, traveling is expensive and more subs means more ad revenue, more opportunities to sell branded merch, to fund those travels.