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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 01:02 AM Sep 2021

Mayor demands BoE resign over "porn" assignment



I'll admit I have a few very minor qualms about this myself, but the concept of "education" is a broad one, and I betcha half these seniors already know more abut sex than their teachers, or the mayor.

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Mayor demands BoE resign over "porn" assignment (Original Post) TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 OP
"Write a sex scene that you wouldn't show your mom" - pretty much _any_ sex scene qualifies for that PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #1
It's a college level writing class Ms. Toad Sep 2021 #3
The course is a college level class. Ms. Toad Sep 2021 #2
I was wondering if he talked to a prosecutor-- which is where you go instead of a judge. TreasonousBastard Sep 2021 #4
He went to a judge before he made a fool of himself at the meeting Ms. Toad Sep 2021 #7
They're HS seniors. no_hypocrisy Sep 2021 #5
I'm teaching JD candidates, Ms. Toad Sep 2021 #6
50 shades lol... Volaris Sep 2021 #9
Maybe the Mayor feared that they'd turn in something that's dark and disturbing... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #11
Anything in your screen play about lack of orgasms being a cause of cervical cancer? George II Sep 2021 #12
Isn't that CRAZY?! Even M. Night Shyamalan isn't that fucked up. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #13
I think the crazy part is Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2021 #17
A hundred times a day subthreads diverge from the OP's topic. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #18
That video and everything else makes me: George II Sep 2021 #19
Is everyone assuming that every high school student has had sex? Baitball Blogger Sep 2021 #8
This is a college class made available to high school seniors via an arrangement Ms. Toad Sep 2021 #10
Are we assuming that the sex prompts were used? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2021 #16
I believe not everything in the book was assigned. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2021 #14
So many Francis's, and so much lightening up to be done. Captain Stern Sep 2021 #15

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. "Write a sex scene that you wouldn't show your mom" - pretty much _any_ sex scene qualifies for that
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 01:12 AM
Sep 2021

one when you are in High School, right?

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
2. The course is a college level class.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 01:14 AM
Sep 2021

(Senior year College Credit Plus writing class.) The prompts they choose to call out were the "juiciest.

Most were benign, and even the ones they called out could easily have been prompts from which scenes in any of the mystery books I've been reading could have been written.

The prosecutor pretty much laughed at the mayor. No charges will be filled.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
7. He went to a judge before he made a fool of himself at the meeting
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 10:16 AM
Sep 2021

Probably one who lived the street from him - I doubt it was a formal inquiry inquiry. Hudson is where all the rich, snooty folks live.

no_hypocrisy

(46,086 posts)
5. They're HS seniors.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:17 AM
Sep 2021

What did the Mayor think they'd turn in? 50 Shades of Grey? Fannie Hill? Lady Chatterly's Lover?

Knowing how students write, I'd be thrilled if they wrote a cogent paragraph.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
6. I'm teaching JD candidates,
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 10:10 AM
Sep 2021

And this prompt, plus the follow-up (to rewrite it to one that you would show your parents) is exactly what I wish these students had had more practice with before they landed in my lap. And if he content is a bit racy get their attention, they might be interested enough to do a good job.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
9. 50 shades lol...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:16 PM
Sep 2021

As a a high school sophmore, my daughter had better paragraph structure than what's in that book.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. Maybe the Mayor feared that they'd turn in something that's dark and disturbing...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:49 PM
Sep 2021

... for example, a woman fantasizing about being violently sexually abused by three men that would get published and haunt them the rest of their lives. But then again... it could be the beginnings of a retro black-and-white melodrama screenplay written in a pre-Hayes Code style, and starring a grand actress like Norma Shearer. I can easily see her over-acting and uttering these words: "You wanted me not as a woman, or a lover, or a friend, but as a submissive woman, or submissive friend, or submissive lover; and right now where my head is I balk at even the slightest suspicion of that kind of demand."

SHE WIPES HER TEARS AWAY. FADE TO BLACK.

EPILOGUE TEXT (SCROLLS ON SCREEN) "And they never again made love together (which they had each liked to do more than anything) or never ever saw each other one more time."

THE END (+ soft orchestral fanfare finale)






NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
13. Isn't that CRAZY?! Even M. Night Shyamalan isn't that fucked up.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:50 AM
Sep 2021

It sounded strange, so I did a quick google search. I found this in an essay headlined "Cancer, Disease and Society": "The manner in which you bring up your daughter with regard to sexual attitudes may very well determine whether or not she will develop breast cancer, among other things." "How much guilt, nervousness have you imbued in your daughter with regard to sex?"

The essay cites studies suggesting a relationship between "inhibited sexuality" and cancer risks. "In other words, did women who develop breast cancer have certain similar psychological traits which might lead one to see a connection between emotional health and cancer," the author wrote.

Fortunately, I also read that the science on this point is clear. "There is no relationship between stress or emotions, and 'getting' cancer," one expert said.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
17. I think the crazy part is
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 12:39 PM
Sep 2021

that you two think you are clever with dragging this into the discussion of the OP. I mean, it doesn't shock me, but, still. Time to let it go.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. A hundred times a day subthreads diverge from the OP's topic.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 03:06 PM
Sep 2021

This is nothing new. Who cares? If anyone isn't interested in the subthread, then they should keep scrolling and ignore it.

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
8. Is everyone assuming that every high school student has had sex?
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 10:16 AM
Sep 2021

This would be very difficult to write for young people who haven't crossed that line, or even those who have and are not ready to talk about it.

I say a massive no. Not in the high school levels on down.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
10. This is a college class made available to high school seniors via an arrangement
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:24 PM
Sep 2021

with a local college.

The prompt complained about was one of 642 of prompts in the book.

In order to take the class, parents of the children involved had to grant consent:

“Application for the course includes parental acknowledgment of a college environment that may include themes or content not found in a more controlled secondary school environment,”


This is the book: https://www.amazon.com/Things-Write-Francisco-Writers-Grotto/dp/1452105448

Here are 100 of the 642 prompts: http://ryanjurewiczedu390.pbworks.com/f/WritingPrompts.pdf

The bulk of it is real controversial stuff.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
16. Are we assuming that the sex prompts were used?
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 12:33 PM
Sep 2021

Because I don't think there's any indication that they were. Maybe, just maybe, the teacher was good enough to pick from the over 600 prompts in the book those that would give the students something to write about.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
14. I believe not everything in the book was assigned.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 11:03 AM
Sep 2021

And the book was just used as a resource and not a textbook that all students

But, as mentioned above, this was a college class taught at the high school. Get over yourself.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
15. So many Francis's, and so much lightening up to be done.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 11:57 AM
Sep 2021

The mayor sounds very tough.

He's like Clint Eastwood, playing Clint Eastwood in a movie about Clint Eastwood.

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