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NJCher

(35,658 posts)
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 02:25 AM Sep 2021

Dems Plan "Redistribution of Wealth," Says Kevin McCarthy

From a persuasive standpoint, I think the republicans' campaign against the infrastructure bill is a loser.

I was clicking around news sites when I ran across a headline at The New York Post. It said, "McCarthy slams Dem plan: 'It’s redistribution of wealth'."

I thought well now, isn't that just what we need! What is Kevin McCarthy doing? PR for the Democrats?

Opinion polls have long shown that republicans, independents, and Democrats think that the wealthy and the corporations need to pay their fair share. So WTF?

Wanting to post the story here, but not wanting to cite a sleazy source like the NY Post, I googled the headline and found something very interesting. You can check it yourself if you just take the headline "McCarthy slams Dem plan: 'It’s redistribution of wealth' and put it in a search engine.

This story is pretty much appearing only in right wing media. Sources like (don't give them a click, please. I am only posting them for purposes of example):

--the patrioticretirementclub

--thedailytruthreport

--forbesalert

--rightreport

and many, many more. I never realized what a network of right winger disinfo sites they have going. Almost as prolific as their r-w hate radio network. As I skipped through the pages, I saw no reputable news sites with this story.

So having been a former PR person, what this means is that they devised this strategy angle of "redistribution of wealth," and they issued a press release on it to all of their r-w friendly sites. That is the reason it is all appearing at the same time and that the stories all pretty much read the same.

They have a second angle on this story, which strikes me as equally inept. It is "Rep. McCarthy slams Democrat spending plan as more than cost to win WWII."

From a PR standpoint, I think both these angles are misguided and quite frankly, kind of stupid.

The WWII comparison makes one think they are really hurting for a second angle. WWII? Really? WWII dollars compared to 2021 dollars?

So to sum up, I don't get their strategy on this. You can't tell me that they have internal polls showing that Americans don't want a redistribution of wealth because they do.

And the WWII thing is just bizarre.

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Dems Plan "Redistribution of Wealth," Says Kevin McCarthy (Original Post) NJCher Sep 2021 OP
Like most grifters and their associates, watch what they do not what they say Backseat Driver Sep 2021 #1
Sounds good to me Roy Rolling Sep 2021 #2
they say that whenever the idea of the super rich paying more comes up Skittles Sep 2021 #3
No, the tax cut granted to the wealthy was given to them due to the misguided belief that they cstanleytech Sep 2021 #4
Do you really think that any Republican Bettie Sep 2021 #12
Yes. "I never had a poor man give me a job" is a common view. Midnight Writer Sep 2021 #17
I miscommunicated on this, I meant Republican congresscritters Bettie Sep 2021 #18
I agree with that. Republican economic policy is a deliberate scam against working folks. Midnight Writer Sep 2021 #19
And thanks for the response Bettie Sep 2021 #21
I'm talking about the average person that bought into the lie but the Republican politicians cstanleytech Sep 2021 #26
I realized that after the fact Bettie Sep 2021 #28
Rinse and repeat. Boomerproud Sep 2021 #5
Actually Dems are just recovering the wealth of Americans ... Raven123 Sep 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #8
And they will end up with those dollars eventually Bettie Sep 2021 #13
Gee, I hope so. no_hypocrisy Sep 2021 #7
The redistribution of wealth in the USA from everyone else to the top .1% in the past 40 years has Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #9
+10000000000000000 Celerity Sep 2021 #11
Precisely. This needs to be pointed out at every opportunity. Nt TheNationalRazor Sep 2021 #16
Actually WHITT Sep 2021 #10
We should change our message too... BleedsBlue Sep 2021 #14
very good point NJCher Sep 2021 #23
Kevin is just upset that the Dems want to reverse THEIR redistribution of the wealth. GoCubsGo Sep 2021 #15
Let's dig up Ronald Reagan and ask HIM about the redistribution of wealth FakeNoose Sep 2021 #20
How? We can't get our own party memebers to vote as a team. The rich are safe. nt Hotler Sep 2021 #22
Qevin MqQarthy is endorsing Build Back Better? lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #24
Call it "Redistribution of Health" Nt Baked Potato Sep 2021 #25
That is not a lie. Wow! ananda Sep 2021 #27
Right wingers got tired of losing the messaging battle in reality so they made their own... Caliman73 Sep 2021 #29
It's about time the wealth got redistributed. Mr.Bill Sep 2021 #30
And he says that, as if it is 'a bad thing' ?? DemocraticPatriot Sep 2021 #31

Backseat Driver

(4,390 posts)
1. Like most grifters and their associates, watch what they do not what they say
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:02 AM
Sep 2021

Just so a lot of cream ends up in their power cups...that insurrection wasn't just ad lib grumpy tourists. And those awkward polls - there's plenty of fudge factors involved including social media influencers of cult culture who will pick it up and run with it for a moment of short-attention span gospel even before parsing "redistribution" that means jobs, fair pay checks, lower healthcare costs, and the pride one gets from saying "I live in an awesome well-governed community with people who care and work hard together to overcome obstacles to opportunity with each other and their environment."

Roy Rolling

(6,911 posts)
2. Sounds good to me
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:27 AM
Sep 2021

Wealth on the hands of idiots is money wasted. Find a way to tax morons like the Trump spawns.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
3. they say that whenever the idea of the super rich paying more comes up
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 04:15 AM
Sep 2021

because they fucking know HOW UNFAIR IT IS

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
4. No, the tax cut granted to the wealthy was given to them due to the misguided belief that they
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 04:23 AM
Sep 2021

would then pass it on to the rest of us in the form of jobs and better pay.
That however never happened and instead they have actually caused millions to fall into poverty because they did not raise peoples pay to keep up with even the cost of living and the jobs they created are actually overseas as they offshored more and more jobs.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
12. Do you really think that any Republican
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 08:03 AM
Sep 2021

believed that they would pass it on with jobs and better pay? I don't.

They knew what it was and they didn't care.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
18. I miscommunicated on this, I meant Republican congresscritters
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 09:14 AM
Sep 2021

they knew full well what they were doing and enjoyed doing it.

Average people are more likely to believe the lies.

They don't even get that the rich guy isn't "giving" you a job, they need workers because people are spending money and creating economic activity. Heck, I learned that in high school econ class...which I don't think they have in schools anymore.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
21. And thanks for the response
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 09:27 AM
Sep 2021

I definitely missed the mark I was aiming for, but it's early and I have not yet had coffee!

I have often heard that "rich man/job" phrase.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
26. I'm talking about the average person that bought into the lie but the Republican politicians
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 12:34 PM
Sep 2021

iknew it was an outright lie ,

Raven123

(4,828 posts)
6. Actually Dems are just recovering the wealth of Americans ...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:55 AM
Sep 2021

… that has been siphoned away from them and funneled to a selective few over the past 40 years

Response to Raven123 (Reply #6)

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
13. And they will end up with those dollars eventually
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 08:04 AM
Sep 2021

but if they could go through more hands (transactions) before they go into the investment portfolios/bank accounts of the very rich, that would be nice and good for the economy.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
9. The redistribution of wealth in the USA from everyone else to the top .1% in the past 40 years has
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 07:49 AM
Sep 2021

been unprecedented.

This is just more projection from the republiQan billionaire toadies.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
10. Actually
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 07:54 AM
Sep 2021

It's just a RE-redistribution of wealth. The Repubs already redistributed the wealth UPWARDS.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
15. Kevin is just upset that the Dems want to reverse THEIR redistribution of the wealth.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 08:13 AM
Sep 2021

Because, that is what THEY have been doing for the past 50 years. They redistributed into the pockets of their wealthy donors. It sounds to me like another of their last gasps of desperation. The bill is popular, even among those in his party. And, the vast majority also want the ultra-wealthy to start paying their fair share. He's down to pulling shit out of his ass in an attempt to scare people out of their support.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
20. Let's dig up Ronald Reagan and ask HIM about the redistribution of wealth
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 09:21 AM
Sep 2021

Reagan was responsible for the largest redistribution of wealth EVER in history.
It all went to the One Percenters, as the rest of us know.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
29. Right wingers got tired of losing the messaging battle in reality so they made their own...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 12:54 PM
Sep 2021

There has always been media/press from every political persuasion, but after the fiasco of the Nixon administration and his resignation from office, right wingers vowed to not let it happen again. Nixon, Ailes, and Buchanan wanted to set up a GOPTv concept even before, but what happened to Nixon really catalyzed the situation.

Since then, right wing millionaires and billionaires have put forward a concerted effort to reshape the media landscape. They own many outlets in TV, radio, and internet. They almost always carry the same messaging, almost word for word.

It really has created an alternative to reality where many people get fact free propaganda.

We used to have discussions and disputes over the established facts, but now right wingers make stuff up so that we aren't even dealing with facts anymore. Right wingers who stay in their bubble can come out not even knowing what is really going on in the world.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
30. It's about time the wealth got redistributed.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 02:18 PM
Sep 2021

The first time they distributed it they fucked it all up.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,343 posts)
31. And he says that, as if it is 'a bad thing' ??
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 02:19 PM
Sep 2021


Of course, he is virtue-signaling to his wealthy contributors...

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