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Budi

(15,325 posts)
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:15 PM Sep 2021

Gabby Petito: The original police interview, Cops failed her. Laundrie hit & slapped her.



So, it turns out that the 911 caller who reported the 8/12 incident between Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie reported seeing him slapping and hitting her. This is the info that the police had going into the situation. They failed her. https://t.co/tOLiZDZpCA pic.twitter.com/Mdy7vOigCy
— jen psaki's head tilt before the kill






You can't train away misogyny. People have to want to be better than this. Cops treat DV this way primarily because of misogyny.




The original police interview of Gabby Petito & Brian Laundrie shows what it looks like when cops have NOT had adequate DV training. Blaming her “mental health”, ignoring reports of his emotional abuse/threats, putting HIM in safe hotel while sending her to spend night in a VAN?

Cont..
When I saw that clip I immediately thought he was abusive and had convinced her she was the problem. In the last 5 years, out of necessity, I researched narcissism. We need to educate young girls/women how to spot the red flags.
*******

News didn't even seek nor report the actual dispatch call nor pd report, in their rush to profit from the sensational headlines.
Anyone surprised why we never hear about the crimes of the disappeared?

It's the gdamned NEWS & their writing & sanitizing the story for views & their advertisers.
The News failed Gabby Petito, as well as all the others who have been victims of domestic violence, in the name of whitewashing their own issue of mysogyny.

This pisses me off even more today, than yesterday.

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Gabby Petito: The original police interview, Cops failed her. Laundrie hit & slapped her. (Original Post) Budi Sep 2021 OP
This is so damned inexcusable. Jirel Sep 2021 #1
Had they called in a female cop trained in dv & listened to Gabby's story, she would have been .... Budi Sep 2021 #4
So who thinks these cops don't beat women themselves malaise Sep 2021 #2
Narcissism is more common than one thinks & it is accepted & covered up by the same Budi Sep 2021 #5
You know what makes me even sicker malaise Sep 2021 #6
It is the twisted manipulation of a narcissist that controlled the outcome of the cop call. Budi Sep 2021 #11
And there are dozens of victims daily across the planet malaise Sep 2021 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #26
Good point because Ma and Pa allowed him to live at home with her malaise Sep 2021 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #31
He could be on a beach in Mobay malaise Sep 2021 #39
Police did separate them after the fight. LisaL Sep 2021 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #32
That fight was 2 weeks before her mother last spoke to her. LisaL Sep 2021 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Sep 2021 #7
+1 2naSalit Sep 2021 #9
Yup. The narcissist will always convince you that it's your fault. Always. Budi Sep 2021 #14
Right? Not even 2M people in all of Montana PLUS Wyoming. Maru Kitteh Sep 2021 #43
It's not uncommon for an abused wnylib Sep 2021 #22
Sad malaise Sep 2021 #23
Hey, no self violence, either! wnylib Sep 2021 #37
Bingo! I believe that's it. Nt LittleGirl Sep 2021 #24
Any half hour of television will quickly teach you Maru Kitteh Sep 2021 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Sep 2021 #3
i recently found out that in some chicago's suburbs, if you call in a dv, that person must to jail. mopinko Sep 2021 #8
... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #10
the process of determining female sanity is about like reading chicken entrails if you ask me. still mopinko Sep 2021 #12
I really can't argue with that... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #36
So many people on social media calling her the abuser obamanut2012 Sep 2021 #15
She was only 22 yrs old. Just starting out into adulthood. Budi Sep 2021 #16
The cops said she was the offender Deuxcents Sep 2021 #17
"Maybe he'll meet up with an alligator and put this all to rest." Budi Sep 2021 #19
Why doesn't the truth come out FIRST??? Karma13612 Sep 2021 #18
If I am following this correctly Zeitghost Sep 2021 #41
Since the police clearly falsified their report cate94 Sep 2021 #20
It's not just twisted, it's archaic. wnylib Sep 2021 #29
You are right cate94 Sep 2021 #57
The friend was a couple years older than I was wnylib Sep 2021 #60
It'd be interesting to know what the dispatcher told the police Sympthsical Sep 2021 #21
How long are those dispatchers trained? LittleGirl Sep 2021 #25
fuck TallMike Sep 2021 #28
Only IF he really is in Florida. I think that wnylib Sep 2021 #34
I don't believe he is in Florida or even on US Soil.. Pachamama Sep 2021 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #35
Just finished watching the Karma13612 Sep 2021 #33
The cops in Utah dropped the ball. Treefrog Sep 2021 #42
The cops in Utah Karma13612 Sep 2021 #56
Well... 2naSalit Sep 2021 #40
Yeah, this really helps explain things. honest.abe Sep 2021 #44
I have only seen one reference to this on TV today. I hope senseandsensibility Sep 2021 #45
He had bite and scratch marks she had none. Tribetime Sep 2021 #47
He had a mark on his hand and told them he scratched it on a fence. boston bean Sep 2021 #50
Probably defending herself. boston bean Sep 2021 #51
If they had DV training it might wnylib Sep 2021 #52
I agree I think they made their decision on their training Tribetime Sep 2021 #53
Their PD could use some training, though. wnylib Sep 2021 #54
Anyone else see the parallels with the FBI and the US Women's Gymnastic team?? bullwinkle428 Sep 2021 #48
The cop telling her this, I want you to listen closely very closely boston bean Sep 2021 #49
+100000 Pachamama Sep 2021 #59

Jirel

(2,018 posts)
1. This is so damned inexcusable.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:35 PM
Sep 2021

When cops don't intervene in abuse, they might as well be the killers themselves.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. Had they called in a female cop trained in dv & listened to Gabby's story, she would have been ....
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:40 PM
Sep 2021

...separated in a safe place. Rather than where she ended up. Dead, on a dismal cold mountainside in Wyoming USA, a thousand miles from home.

malaise

(268,957 posts)
2. So who thinks these cops don't beat women themselves
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:40 PM
Sep 2021

I did wonder why she was blaming herself in that interview.
Bet his parents knew as well.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
5. Narcissism is more common than one thinks & it is accepted & covered up by the same
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:42 PM
Sep 2021

This makes me sick.

malaise

(268,957 posts)
6. You know what makes me even sicker
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:46 PM
Sep 2021

It was her vehicle.
Even at 22 no guy was bullying me and beating me period, let alone when I owned the transport.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
11. It is the twisted manipulation of a narcissist that controlled the outcome of the cop call.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:56 PM
Sep 2021

It WAS HER VAN!
He killed her & drove it home to FL.

malaise

(268,957 posts)
13. And there are dozens of victims daily across the planet
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 04:01 PM
Sep 2021

Guess he thought he could continue using her van after he killed her - he was brazen enough to kill her and drive it back to Florida

Response to malaise (Reply #13)

malaise

(268,957 posts)
27. Good point because Ma and Pa allowed him to live at home with her
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:20 PM
Sep 2021

Fucker was such a failure that he didn't even have his own place or car.
Ah well he had all those likes on Social Media.
Hope he enjoyed the cross country tour - either he's dead or prison awaits.

Response to malaise (Reply #27)

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
30. Police did separate them after the fight.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:31 PM
Sep 2021

He was put up in a hotel and she was left with the van. So at least in theory she could have taken off in her van.
Problem is, many abused persons don't leave, no matter what.

Response to LisaL (Reply #30)

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
38. That fight was 2 weeks before her mother last spoke to her.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:47 PM
Sep 2021

So the two of them obviously got back together after the fight.

Response to LisaL (Reply #38)

Response to Budi (Reply #5)

2naSalit

(86,573 posts)
9. +1
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:52 PM
Sep 2021

The cops are on the guy's side. And I am sure some of them do as you suggest.

She may have been blaming herself for a number of reasons but perhaps it had to do with the cop's attitude. Never know. I think the cops should be investigated by outside of WY entities. This whole region is connected in one way or another.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
14. Yup. The narcissist will always convince you that it's your fault. Always.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 04:13 PM
Sep 2021

And they're very good at it, because they never own fault of their own.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
22. It's not uncommon for an abused
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:06 PM
Sep 2021

woman to blame herself for many possible reasons. She might fear retaliation if she tells the truth. She might be conditioned by upbringing to believe that a good relationship is a woman's responsibility. So if he gets angry enough to hit her, she thinks that she did something wrong to upset him. If she has become emotionally or financially dependent on him as a result of intimidation through abuse, she will act like a person experiencing Stockholm Syndrome and try to protect him.

Abuse can really mess up your mind in the hands of a skilled narcisist.

(Been there, many years ago, and God help the guy who ever tries it on me again.)

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
46. Any half hour of television will quickly teach you
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 08:20 PM
Sep 2021

Peace, health, dietary habits, conflict resolution, successful holidays and indeed all matters of perfection are the responsibility of women. Just watch the commercials.


If you're really in a bind, you may have to depend on a small girl to fix everything for the male, help them be a better person and solve their problems.





Response to Budi (Original post)

mopinko

(70,089 posts)
8. i recently found out that in some chicago's suburbs, if you call in a dv, that person must to jail.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:47 PM
Sep 2021

abusers know this. so they provoke their victims into fighting back, and they send them to jail.
yup, that's how it actually works. not just to the station, either. cook county jail.

2naSalit

(86,573 posts)
10. ...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 03:54 PM
Sep 2021

My dad's and my brother's MO was to claim the female in the altercation is crazy and needs to go to mental health facility. And that's often what happened and that stayed on their records when applying for jobs or apartments, it was evil and sick.

mopinko

(70,089 posts)
12. the process of determining female sanity is about like reading chicken entrails if you ask me. still
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 04:01 PM
Sep 2021

i had a neuropsyche exam just a few years ago, and the quality of the psyche half was appalling. 50 questions, just yes/no. biased af. no interview. at.all. violation of apa guidelines. and yet...
modern psychiatry is about as useful as phrenology if you are female in america.

2naSalit

(86,573 posts)
36. I really can't argue with that...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:43 PM
Sep 2021

Had a few bogus psych evals and I'm glad they didn't put me in some facility.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
15. So many people on social media calling her the abuser
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 04:29 PM
Sep 2021

GLEEFULLY.

Folks on here said it, too, doubling down on bUt sHeS tHe aBuSeR!?!

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
16. She was only 22 yrs old. Just starting out into adulthood.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:09 PM
Sep 2021

I hope the Chickenshit Coward is found

Deuxcents

(16,193 posts)
17. The cops said she was the offender
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:12 PM
Sep 2021

I wonder what they think about what has happened to her..if they even think about it. The boyfriend claimed she was manic and goes off every so often. Hmmm..wonder why.i wish she had left him a long time ago. She was even financing this trip..her van, her tic tick revenues. Whatever happens to him, I don’t care. Maybe he’ll meet up with an alligator and put this all to rest.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
19. "Maybe he'll meet up with an alligator and put this all to rest."
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:22 PM
Sep 2021

Best outcome I can think of.
I don't want to hear "his side". Followed by a Go Fund Me & 'Justice for Brian Laundrie' advocacy group.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
18. Why doesn't the truth come out FIRST???
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:13 PM
Sep 2021

Why did the report have to make her look bad first.

Unless you hear about this new revelation, you will continue to think that!

Thanks for sharing this. Puts stuff in a whole new light. And now we will hear all the denial and crap from the BF and his family.

Well, IF they can ever FIND the BF.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
41. If I am following this correctly
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 07:33 PM
Sep 2021

This was an earlier incident that happened prior to the one with the bodycam footage.

cate94

(2,810 posts)
20. Since the police clearly falsified their report
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:42 PM
Sep 2021

By saying there was no mention of assault, and also bolstering the attacker and penalizing the victim, t hey should be fired.

This is some twisted shit.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
29. It's not just twisted, it's archaic.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:30 PM
Sep 2021

That's how DV used to be handled decades ago.

I survived a very abusive relationship. The cops were not involved in every incident, but when they were, they were very professional, even back in the early 1970s. They tried to get me to tell the truth of what had happened, but I was too terrified to do it. They told me point blank that they knew that I was lying out of fear. But the laws at that time would give me only limited protection after reporting him. I knew that he would retaliate.

The cops were patient and understanding. (Both male.) They said that they understood my concern but told me bluntly that it would get worse until he killed me. They advised me to work on an escape plan and enlist friends or relatives. They gave me their cards to call when I was ready.

I took their advice and eventually got a friend to help. The threats and violence escalated after I moved in with the friend (a female coworker with a big, protective German Shepherd).

The frank discussion and advice from those cops probably saved my life.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
60. The friend was a couple years older than I was
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 08:17 AM
Sep 2021

and sympathetic because she had divorced a controlling, emotionally abusive man.

After my post, I watched the police video of when they stopped the van. The cops started out handling it ok, but, since Laundrie had scratch marks on him, they concluded that he was the victim, not her. They charged her with DV.

After seeing the video, I have my own suspicions about the relationship dynamics between Petito and Laundrie. I think that he is a psychologically manipulative narcissist, skilled at gaslighting. Petito was young and trusting, not aware of what she was dealing with. The interactions between each of them and the cops were unnatural.

Petito was very emotionally stressed and crying. Laundrie gaslighted both her and the cops. He denied that there was any problem between him and Petito. He was unnaturally calm and smooth the entire time. In separate interviews, she said they had been arguing all day and that she was stressed out from it. He said it was a "beautiful day" and things were going well until she got "upset." He never clarified what she was upset about, just that he tried to put distance between them by getting in the van and telling her to take a walk to cool off.

The cops then filled in the image that Laundrie was .creating for them, that he did the "right" thing and she was just an over emotional, hysterical type. But the van and phone were hers. They were thousands of miles from home. He had the keys (and the phone, I think). So of course she got upset when he was going to take off somewhere. She forced her way into the van to avoid being stranded, IMO. He made it look like she was just a "crazy lady," upset for no reason. That is a classic gaslighting maneuver of narcissists.

His behavior had Petito doubting herself. He presents himself as calm and rational to her, but does unreasonable things. She can't reconcile the image with the behavior and questions him. He gets super calm, creating the impression even in her own mind that she is overreacting. She ends up apologizing for her normal reaction to his controlling "reasonableness."

Even a calm, reasonable guy would feel and at least verbally express some frustration about trying to cope with an "over emotional" girlfriend. His calm is the scripted behavior of a self-serving narcissist.

IMO, the cops' mistake was in accepting Laundrie's story of him trying to get away from an emotional woman. They failed to see that it was normal for her to get upset over him taking off in HER van with HER phone thousands of miles from home after an argument. They wrote her off and considered him a heroic saint.






Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
21. It'd be interesting to know what the dispatcher told the police
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 05:56 PM
Sep 2021

There are often cases in the media where a 911 dispatcher doesn't pass along pertinent information to the responding officers, so they go in not having all of the information necessary.

The most infamous example I can think of is the Tamir Rice killing. The 911 call included saying the person was probably a juvenile and the gun was probably fake. That was not told to the officers, and we saw how that went.

TallMike

(161 posts)
28. fuck
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:21 PM
Sep 2021

this guy anyway.
If the skeeters or the gators don't get him. there's always dysentery, snakes and the obligatory "deliverance" types to help level the playing field.
Go Gators!

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
34. Only IF he really is in Florida. I think that
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:41 PM
Sep 2021

his family is lying about that to protect him.

His picture should be plastered everywhere in the country so there is no safe place for him to hide, unless he leaves the country, if he hasn't already. Give the photos to airlines and Interpol, too.

Response to TallMike (Reply #28)

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
33. Just finished watching the
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:40 PM
Sep 2021

Whole bodycam footage of the traffic stop. It is 1 hr 17 min long. But very revealing on many levels.

[link:https://www.fox13news.com/news/911-call-released-in-gabby-petito-brian-laundrie-incident-in-utah-the-gentleman-was-slapping-the-girl?taid=6148d45ae56df4000174df5d&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter|]

This was after the report of DV. She talks to her parents while in the squad car. I would like to know what she told her parents about the details of the DV. She never tells the cops that Brian slapped her and hit her.

I wonder if she told her parents. And told them that she was being held for DV.

Something is not right in this picture.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
56. The cops in Utah
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 12:44 AM
Sep 2021

Were acting like best buds with ‘Bri Bri’. Because one of them had a wife suffering from anxiety, they completely dismissed Gabby’s demeaner as just anxiety. Forgetting that she could be in distress.

They got the 911 dispatch call information completely backwards. In fact, Brian was witnessed hitting and slapping Gabby.

My gawd, what a mistake to make. The cop with the beard was way overbearing towards Gabby. Never giving her emotional space to explain what happened or to relate any fears. She was as afraid of the cop as she was of Brian. Frightened about being arrested for assault!!

I can’t imagine the fear and shame she was facing.

And now she’s dead and he’s on the lamb.

2naSalit

(86,573 posts)
40. Well...
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:48 PM
Sep 2021

It's Wyoming, women aren't thought of as much beyond livestock in most parts, and I don't expect Florida to be any better about it.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
44. Yeah, this really helps explain things.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 07:46 PM
Sep 2021

Clearly this girl was being abused and controlled by her fiancé.

senseandsensibility

(17,016 posts)
45. I have only seen one reference to this on TV today. I hope
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 07:50 PM
Sep 2021

I see more after that terrible original story of her being the "aggressor." This needs to be explored much, much further.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
52. If they had DV training it might
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 09:21 PM
Sep 2021

have helped. They would have learned to assess body language, apologies, and other behaviors that occur in DV situations. That might have raised some suspicions, but since they had limited information, they couldn't know for sure what had happened.

That's when it's good to have a DV trained female cop to call on, to talk separately and privately with Gabby, maybe ask if there were any marks she might have had on her that were not visible. She or another cop could have asked directly if physical fights occurred before and offered Gabby a place to go if necessary.

The marks on her fiance might have come from defensive actions by Gabby, to get free, for example, if she was being forcibly held and restrained. The location of the marks on him might have indicated where they stood in relation to each other when she scratched and bit him.

In the end, though, the cops were limited in what they could do without enough information and probably could not have done anything to prevent her death. Hard to know without having all the details of the cop encounter.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
49. The cop telling her this, I want you to listen closely very closely
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 08:59 PM
Sep 2021

To what I am asking you. And I want you to think about your answer really hard before you answer, don’t blurt out an answer. Did you mean to hurt him.

Right then and there I knew they were assholes.

She took all the blame just like her abuser would demand of her.

I am so pissed about this.

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