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Nevilledog

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Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:36 PM Sep 2021

Jelani Cobb on The Kerner Report: An Unheeded Warning About the Consequences of Racism




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1967 is also around the same time the racist lie of "overpopulation" started to get pushed really hard

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The Kerner Report, from 1967, named white racism—no euphemisms—as the root cause of unrest in the United States. It called for sweeping changes and investments in jobs, housing, policing, and more. Then it was shelved. http://nyer.cm/ukFTFbU
2:18 PM · Sep 20, 2021




https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/political-scene/jelani-cobb-on-the-kerner-report-an-unheeded-warning-about-the-consequences-of-racism


In 1967, in the wake of a violent uprising in Detroit, President Lyndon B. Johnson assembled the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders to investigate what had happened. This seemed futile: another panel to investigate yet another uprising. “A lot of people felt that way—‘We don’t need more studies, nothing’s going to come out of that commission,’ ” Fred Harris, a former senator from Oklahoma and the commission’s last surviving member, tells Jelani Cobb. But the conclusions were not typical at all. In the final analysis, known as the Kerner Report, the commission named white racism—no euphemisms—as the root cause of unrest in the United States, and said that the country was “moving toward two societies, one Black, one White—separate and unequal.” The report called for sweeping changes and investments in jobs, housing, policing, and more; the recommendations went so far beyond Johnson’s anti-poverty programs of the nineteen-sixties that the President shelved the report and refused to meet with his own commission. The Kerner Report, Cobb says, was “an unheeded warning,” as America still struggles today to acknowledge the reality of systemic racism.

Jelani Cobb co-edited and wrote the introduction to “The Essential Kerner Commission Report,” which was published this year.


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Jelani Cobb on The Kerner Report: An Unheeded Warning About the Consequences of Racism (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2021 OP
I've never heard that one. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #1
Overpopulation meaning too many people of the wrong color. Nevilledog Sep 2021 #3
It Was Pretty Obvious, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #4
That might've been well-received by racists at the time. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #6
True Then, Ma'am, True Now The Magistrate Sep 2021 #2
Easy call - that was the year Detroit burned down FakeNoose Sep 2021 #5
And people forget snowybirdie Sep 2021 #7

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
1. I've never heard that one.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:53 PM
Sep 2021

That is, that concerns about overpopulation was racist.

Given that several scientists have provided those warnings, and only about 6% of scientists in this country are Republicans, I think that's a delusional and paranoid idea.

Having one less child has a greater impact on fewer carbon emissions than NEVER driving a car and never flying on a plane, combined, at least with current technologies and government policies.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/12/want-to-fight-climate-change-have-fewer-children

And later comments in that same thread of tweets implies that global warming concerns arose out of racist concerns too.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
4. It Was Pretty Obvious, Sir
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:57 PM
Sep 2021

It was the looming hordes of people massing in India and China, mostly got early devotees so excited.


'Consider the opening scene of The Population Bomb. It describes a cab ride that Ehrlich and his family experienced in Delhi. In the “ancient taxi,” its seats “hopping with fleas,” the Ehr­lichs entered “a crowded slum area.”

The streets seemed alive with people. People eating, people washing, people sleeping. People visiting, arguing, and screaming. People thrust their hands through the taxi window, begging. People defecating and urinating. People clinging to buses. People herding animals. People, people, people, people. . . . [S]ince that night, I’ve known the feel of overpopulation.

The Ehrlichs took the cab ride in 1966. How many people lived in Delhi then? A bit more than 2.8 million, according to the United Nations. By comparison, the 1966 population of Paris was about 8 million. No matter how carefully one searches through archives, it is not easy to find expressions of alarm about how the Champs-Élysées was “alive with people.” Instead, Paris in 1966 was an emblem of elegance and sophistication.'

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-incited-worldwide-fear-overpopulation-180967499/

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
6. That might've been well-received by racists at the time.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 07:18 PM
Sep 2021

I was a baby when that book was published. Never read it, and I don't intend to ever read it.

But it's a little worrisome to me that anyone would even imply that global warming concerns are simply a consequence of racism.

There would need to be an overwhelming number of racists among climatologists today. And scientists like Neil Degrasse Tyson would need to be "in on it" as well.

It strikes me as a Republican-industrialist dream, pushing those kinds of ideas.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
2. True Then, Ma'am, True Now
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 06:54 PM
Sep 2021



"This pretense of not knowing what any idiot knows has come to dominate our political discourse."



FakeNoose

(32,628 posts)
5. Easy call - that was the year Detroit burned down
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 07:03 PM
Sep 2021

Very bad race riots for weeks: shootings, lootings, fires, people evacuating their homes because of the danger. The National Guard had to quell the disturbances. It was bad. Detroit wasn't the only riot that year, but it was the worst.

It's too bad Lyndon Johnson didn't release this report. It might have made a big difference in the country. It might have turned our attention away from Vietnam, and people might have taken a greater interest in domestic issues.

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