The treatment of the Haitians in Texas is an absolute disgrace

[malaise]

That is all

[Me.]

1. I'm Ashamed

whipping them....don't they have it hard enough already....

[Haggard Celine]

3. People are whipping them?

What the ever-loving hell?

[Demsrule86]

5. How is that allowed? Those law enforcement officers need to be fired.

[Haggard Celine]

8. How do those bastards live with themselves?

Oh, that's right, they probably enjoy their jobs. Sick fucks!

[malaise]

6. People on horseback were whipping them

Disgraceful

[RockRaven]

7. From horseback no less... Of course it was a CBP officer, so there is no bottom of that barrel.

[Me.]

10. Here Are Some Links To The Stories

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/09/20/white-house-horrific-see-horseback-cpb-agents-chasing-haitians/5785870001/

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/elviadiaz/2021/09/20/border-patrol-using-whips-del-rio-round-up-haitian-immigrants/5789596001/

https://theblackwallsttimes.com/2021/09/20/u-s-border-patrol-on-horseback-seen-whipping-haitian-migrants/

[Haggard Celine]

16. Thanks for the links.

This is so disgusting I don't know what to say.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

2. Agreed. It's inhuman.

[MustLoveBeagles]

4. Agreed

[OAITW r.2.0]

9. Totally right...we cannot absorb great people of character? The ones that will make

our 21st Century? They are coming and we need them because a lot of the coastal infrastructure plan will require humans to make mitigation happen. We should be welcoming immigrants if we want to save this great country.

[pazzyanne]

35. + 1 nt

[IzzaNuDay]

11. The pictures are in itself disgusting

link:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-house-calls-video-of-border-agents-chasing-haitian-migrants-horrific-dhs-promises-to-investigate/ar-AAOE2Mm?ocid=msedgntp

This looks like shades of the 19th century, post-Reconstruction.

[Celerity]

12. Not that impressed by Alejandro Mayorkas. This abuse is outrageously bad optics and

simply and profoundly wrong. It reeks of runaway slave catcher visuals.

Mayorkas needs to start sacking these abusers ASAP.

[Deuxcents]

13. Why are the Haitians

Not given the same consideration as Cubans or others seeking asylum? Why them?

[malaise]

15. Let me make this pellucidly clear

Haitians are treated like shit in the Bahamas, in Jamaica, in DR and other parts of this hemisphere.
This one though with horses and whips is a new low.

[dianaredwing]

38. Because they had the abslute audacity

to create a black republic all of the remnants of colonialism seek to destroy them.

[malaise]

50. Precisely

That is exactly right

[Zeitghost]

42. Nobody was wipped

The pictures show the reigns of the horse in the riders hands, not whips.

To suggest the Biden administration is whipping refugees is beyond crazy.

[Celerity]

54. White House condemns border guard use of whip-like cord against Haitian migrants

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-homeland-security-chief-heads-border-removal-migrant-camp-accelerates-2021-09-20/

CIUDAD ACUNA, Mexico, Sept 20 (Reuters) - The White House on Monday criticized the use of horse reins to threaten Haitian migrants after images circulated of a U.S. border guard on horseback charging at migrants near a riverside camp in Texas.

The mostly Haitian migrants in recent days have been crossing back and forth between Ciudad Acuna in Mexico and the sprawling camp across the border in Del Rio to buy food and water, which was in short supply on the U.S. side.

Reuters witnesses saw mounted officers wearing cowboy hats blocking the paths of migrants, and one officer unfurling a cord resembling a lariat, which he swung near a migrant's face. A video showing a border guard apparently threatening migrants with the cords was shared on social media.

"I don't think anyone seeing that footage would think it was acceptable or appropriate," White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[sarisataka]

55. I am willing to bet

It is an irrelevant difference to the person on the receiving end.

[intheflow]

25. Haiti was founded out of the *only* successful revolt by enslaved Black people

in the Americas. They drove the French out in 1804, declared themselves independent, and founded the country. This, in turn, inspired many anti-slavery revolutionaries, including Nat Turner and John Brown. Jefferson worried of Haiti's uprising because they were the second successful revolution against European powers, following the US, and refused to recognize their statehood. Not hard to imagine he, knowing the glaring omission of his own revolution, feared successful slave revolts in the US, starting with his own plantation.

[Ritabert]

26. Cubans get no preferential treatment since 2017

....when wet foot/dry foot was rescinded. The Afghani refugees get preferential treatment for obvious reasons. Of more interest is who paid to transport 9500 Haitians via ship and bus for a negative PR moment?

[AdamGG]

28. That's what I've been wondering

I haven't been following this story, but how did they get from Haiti to Mexico and then to the US border? Who paid for the cost of doing that? The immigrants didn't, a lot of them don't even have shoes.

I'd think that many of them have legit asylum claims - governmental chaos, political assassinations, massive natural disasters, poverty. If these were white people fleeing a similar situation, no way they wouldn't be treated differently.

[Ritabert]

31. Apparently some of them came up from South America

...and haven't actually been in Haiti in years. I find it peculiar that 9500 of them ended up under the Del Rio bridge at the same time. I'd investigate that.

[dianaredwing]

39. i belive they were able to get into Ecuador

and from there moved north???

[Skittles]

14. agreed

but do we expect anything better from Texas?

GO BETO!

[former9thward]

45. This is being handled by federal authorities not Texas.

[Coventina]

17. There was a DUer cheering it on in another thread.

[malaise]

19. Damn

Glad i didn't see it

[Coventina]

20. The post has since been removed.

Thankfully.

It makes all of DU look horrible.

[kentuck]

18. Speechless...

Unbelievable!

[Arazi]

21. Yup

Brace yourselves. With climate change refugees, it's going to get much much worse.

And I predict the US will slam the doors shut faster than everyone else. We didn't make nearly enough noise about the remain-in-Mexico policy. Have we reunited all of the families separated under #Traitor? That's gone weirdly silent after the first few family reunifications.

The next 10 years will see monstrous, draconian policies enforced far more harshly than some shitty riders on horseback (pretty surprising nobody fell off, or maybe they did)

[tulipsandroses]

22. Just sad. Is a whip standard issue with uniform?

Heads should be rolling. Everyone involved should be fired, including the higher ups. I don’t care what your stance on immigration is. We should adhere to treating people with decency. Kids in cages were not OK. Neither is chasing humans while riding horses and cracking whips at them. Heads should roll.

[malaise]

24. THIS

[AdamGG]

29. If the government isn't going to prosecute their employees with whips

the media should identify them and run profiles of the offenders. After enough public outrage, pressure for prosecutions will follow.

[IzzaNuDay]

30. +1

I almost bet that Abbott ordered this...

[Zeitghost]

44. There

were no whips...

[WhiskeyGrinder]

23. Yep. K&R.

[Solly Mack]

27. K&R

[marble falls]

32. The treatment of Haitians everywhere in the US is pretty damn sad.

[ismnotwasm]

33. One of more fucked up visuals in a recent times

Fuck those assholes.

[spanone]

34. K&R

WTF IS GOING ON HERE?



A U.S. Border Patrol agent on horseback tries to stop a Haitian migrant in Del Rio, Tex., on Sept. 19. (Paul Ratje/AFP/Getty Images)

[totodeinhere]

36. I think we need to separate out unauthorized actions being taken by some Border Patrol agents

from the polices of the Biden Administration. The Administration has already condemned the whippings and has pledged to investigate. But I think their overall policy is sound. We just do not have the facilities necessary to care for a large hoard of undocumented immigrants from Haiti, and I think the best coarse of action is to send them back. All the while we should increase foreign aid and humanitarian assistance to Haiti.

[gipper66]

37. Confirmation Bias on display

I can follow the rein, from the bit hanging out of the left side of the horses mouth over his head with the free end dangling towards the Haitian. But if you see a whip, that says a lot about what you want to see, not what is actually happening.

[Zeitghost]

43. Thank you!

Confirmation bias is exactly what is going on and it's crazy.

[world wide wally]

40. Texas itself in an absolute disgrace

[Steelrolled]

49. I think this is American policy, not just Texas.

The fact that this is occurring under Biden shows where our country is. I think Biden sees no choice but to continue with a very strict immigration policy.

[Orrex]

41. Yeah?

Earlier today someone smugly recited a bunch of Reichwing talking points at me and no doubt imagined themselves to have "won" the argument.

I would call the treatment of Haitians an abomination.

[Celerity]

46. 'Reich Wing talking points' and sources are the flavour of the year here

for a certain set, as long as they are attacking Dems on that set's hate list (or using RW guilt by association tactics) or pushing some policy or political/philosophical stance that the set member agrees with.

[leftstreet]

47. DURec

[Demovictory9]

48. yep. even repubs were asking on rightwing radio - "why are the Haitians different?"

they were glad the Haitians were being kicked out but were noticing the difference in treatment.... caravans from central america - many were processed right into America, leg go on the streets, bussed to cities in america.

[sanatanadharma]

52. Looking at numerous photos; how long do reins need to be

OK, so the border patrol may not be using whips.
They do seem to be using extra long reins as whips.

[sarisataka]

53. Other opinions:

"Appropriate response"
"does not appear to be any other good option"
"Keep the flights moving"
"Half of world would be here if we had completely open borders"
"And people have been told for MONTHS "Do not come"...
Its time they listen. We cannot take in unlimited numbers of people"
"eventually lowers wages for the working class"
"Good... they need to know what to expect when they cross the border. It may discourage others"

I have read all of these and more within the last 24 hours.

[Devil Child]

56. That is why I enjoy this community

A broad range of opinions to be found on any given subject or event as it happens.