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mainer

(12,022 posts)
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 08:49 AM Sep 2021

New Carmines footage clearly shows this was assault

And shows the hostess was surrounded by the 3 women before she was attacked. Interestingly the men with the three assailants seemed a bit dumbfounded by the whole thing and one even stepped in to drag one of his friends away from the fight.

BLM should have passed on this one.

https://abc7ny.com/hostess-assaulted-carmines-uws/11033024/

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New Carmines footage clearly shows this was assault (Original Post) mainer Sep 2021 OP
What a group of @ssholes!! those women are Peacetrain Sep 2021 #1
It does appear they assaulted her, and she pushed back in self defense NickB79 Sep 2021 #2
People are nuts. marble falls Sep 2021 #3
There is zero evidence that the hostess did anything wrong. dalton99a Sep 2021 #4
No wonder restaurants can't find employees 70sEraVet Sep 2021 #5
There's almost zero chance that after they came back in, the hostess just casually walked up to them Celerity Sep 2021 #6
That's pretty solid video. Treefrog Sep 2021 #7
But their lawyer said sarisataka Sep 2021 #8
Lol, of course the lawyer said that. Treefrog Sep 2021 #9
Lawyer: Hostess "lunged at them"!!! mainer Sep 2021 #10
I'd love to know more about these women from Texas... Treefrog Sep 2021 #11
She should sue them nt XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #14
I agree. nt Treefrog Sep 2021 #16
If they're lying, they've slandered her nt XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #17
Never mind putting her in the hospital! Treefrog Sep 2021 #18
I've had dicey situations at work XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #19
That's horrible! Treefrog Sep 2021 #21
The lawyer in this video actually says... skypilot Sep 2021 #13
Which is a pretty big acknowledgement that his client is guilty. Renew Deal Sep 2021 #33
words are not enough to justify any physical confrontation treestar Sep 2021 #30
Not to mention this is yet another attack on an Asian individual cinematicdiversions Sep 2021 #12
Kick nt XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #15
Is the hostess Asian? jalan48 Sep 2021 #20
Yes n/t Devil Child Sep 2021 #22
A black waiter actually shelters the hostess mainer Sep 2021 #23
Yes, and the guy with his pants falling down pulls one of the women away too, and I think he was Treefrog Sep 2021 #24
His sexy red underwear XanaDUer2 Sep 2021 #25
Lol, I could deal with the underwear, but the butt crack was just too much! Treefrog Sep 2021 #26
Personal Impressions DET Sep 2021 #27
This. Treefrog Sep 2021 #29
I don't see how you call tell whether or not the hostess made racial slurs iemanja Sep 2021 #28
The manager who gojoe12 Sep 2021 #31
If the alleged use of a racial slur by the victim doesn't make the assault acceptable Devil Child Sep 2021 #32
Then why are people commenting about it? iemanja Sep 2021 #34

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
2. It does appear they assaulted her, and she pushed back in self defense
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 09:06 AM
Sep 2021

And done be swiped at her mask as well.

70sEraVet

(3,501 posts)
5. No wonder restaurants can't find employees
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 09:30 AM
Sep 2021

Who wants to face daily doses of idiots?
And I'd be curious to know the follow-up to "the altercation escalated after two men who joined the party did not have ID to match their vaccine cards". Fake vax cards?

Celerity

(43,349 posts)
6. There's almost zero chance that after they came back in, the hostess just casually walked up to them
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 09:39 AM
Sep 2021

and for no reason started calling them the n-word and monkeys.

The hostess is still in the hospital with a concussion as well, so the claim there was no real attack is bullshit.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
7. That's pretty solid video.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 11:38 AM
Sep 2021

I cannot imagine physically attacking a person at a restaurant, or anywhere for that matter.

How does this become the go-to response for people?

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
9. Lol, of course the lawyer said that.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 01:18 PM
Sep 2021

Meanwhile, the hostess has a concussion. Wonder what they hit her with?

mainer

(12,022 posts)
10. Lawyer: Hostess "lunged at them"!!!
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 01:50 PM
Sep 2021

What an idiot to claim this (below). It's clear as day they came up behind the hostess and attacked.

"He contends that the hostess suggested the vaccination cards were fake, spoke condescendingly to the group, and used a racial slur before lunging at the women." He also says in another statement that she SHOUTED racial slurs. And no one else heard them?

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
18. Never mind putting her in the hospital!
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 05:10 PM
Sep 2021

Truly frightening for that young woman, I can’t imagine.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
21. That's horrible!
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 05:43 PM
Sep 2021

I can’t think of anything like that I remember, but I did see people being truly horrid and cruel to others.

skypilot

(8,853 posts)
13. The lawyer in this video actually says...
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 03:35 PM
Sep 2021

...that one of the members of the party pushes the hostess and then the hostess pushes back.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
12. Not to mention this is yet another attack on an Asian individual
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 03:16 PM
Sep 2021

In NYC. If there is racism here too protest I am afraid BLM is clearly in the side of the racists in this case.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
23. A black waiter actually shelters the hostess
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 05:52 PM
Sep 2021

He pulls her away from the assailants, hustles her into a safe corner, and seems to stand guard to protect her.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
24. Yes, and the guy with his pants falling down pulls one of the women away too, and I think he was
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 07:34 PM
Sep 2021

one of their party. He actually looked a bit stunned by the whole thing.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
26. Lol, I could deal with the underwear, but the butt crack was just too much!
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 08:11 PM
Sep 2021

He was going in a restaurant? Yeek.

DET

(1,309 posts)
27. Personal Impressions
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 08:37 PM
Sep 2021

It looks like the older woman wearing glasses was the primary instigator. She’s the one that the red underwear guy pulls away from the restaurant. She also appears to try to start something again at the end. The heavyset woman didn’t seem to have much to do with the brawl. I’m curious how the hostess sustained a concussion since I didn’t see any blows to the head.

Whatever happened, there is no excuse for assaulting a restaurant employee - no matter what was said. BLM does not do themselves any favors defending this behavior. And the fact that the hostess was Asian does not help, especially in the current environment.

iemanja

(53,032 posts)
28. I don't see how you call tell whether or not the hostess made racial slurs
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 08:54 PM
Sep 2021

Not from that video. That wouldn't make the assault acceptable, but I don't understand why people are so confident that nothing was said.

 

gojoe12

(92 posts)
31. The manager who
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:59 AM
Sep 2021

was there said that she made no such slurs. They were potential tippers so why would she say that?. As she lays in the hospital she’s probably thinking what the heck happened lol

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
32. If the alleged use of a racial slur by the victim doesn't make the assault acceptable
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 11:09 AM
Sep 2021

Then why the need to rule out the possibility of it being used?

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