Great Response to "Do your own research"

[kpete]

[Hugh_Lebowski]

1. Man, that was so great ...

Until they said 'jived' instead of the proper word 'jibed'.

Still useful though ... I'll correct it myself if I spread it around

[Harker]

6. Ah... so you'll be talking jibe. n/t

[Hugh_Lebowski]

8. I'm a jibe turkey!

[Harker]

9. It takes one to know one.

[GopherGal]

40. Oh, Stewardess, I speak Jibe

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[Harker]

48. Heh...

Wow. I didn't know Barbara Billingsley was multi-lingual.

[Beartracks]

61. I never noticed before: their overhead storage has no doors on that Airplane!

[jmowreader]

76. There's a reason for that

Airplane! is a remake of the 1957 movie Zero Hour…and there were no doors on the overhead bins in 1957.

[wryter2000]

10. I caught that, too

A very common mistake, along with saying people were hung.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

22. Yeah, I get that a lot ...

[wellst0nev0ter]

58. Meh, I like "jived" better

Makes them look like bigger idiots

[The Unmitigated Gall]

21. Like the cut of your jibe...

Seeing myself out...now.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

23. Much Obliged ...

[FakeNoose]

33. Maybe it one of those weird things that spellchecker misses?

People sometimes say it incorrectly while speaking, but spell it correctly when they write it or type it.

[Mr. Evil]

36. Exactly!

That's why I read it twice.

[Boysterload]

2. It is good, but...

Along the same vain though.... I usually ask people what could they possibly research that most of the worldwide health and medical science community haven't already researched?

[calimary]

18. Welcome to DU, Boysterload!

When they say "I did my own research" we could also ask - "...such as?"

[monkeyman1]

63. totally agree & I'm still a new guy on the block !

glad to see ya' Boysterload & du has a box car load of good people !

[niyad]

46. Welcome to DU.

It is "vein", not "vane". I hate spell-check.

[BootinUp]

57. Yes, I say something very similar. Nt

[reACTIONary]

59. welcome to DU! nt

[PJMcK]

69. Following the comment above about misspelling

You meant to write "vein" not "vain." They mean very different things.

[lame54]

79. I just ask them...

Where's your lab coat?

[Stinky The Clown]

3. Excellent statement but far too intellectual for your average mouth breather.

[diverdownjt]

5. No Kidding...

Well done on the OP....

[Hortensis]

44. Oh, yes. 98% stopped listening at "Please stop saying" when

they realized you were one of Satan's demons sent to steal their souls. Or just a Democrat. The other 2% aftter "you researched it."

Real research has established that once the enemy is identified any openness to the message slams shut and resistance doubles down. Of course.

[Hekate]

7. Excellent

[Demobrat]

11. Nice but too long.

No anti-vaxxer is going to read or listen to that. I prefer the elevator version.

Do your own research
My doctor does that for me.

Not that it matters. Nothing will ever convince those fools now.

[calimary]

19. True, but it's also MOST informative as to all the possible questions with which to challenge

the prideful assertion "I did my own research". Cuz if you can get all the way to the end of that paragraph, BOY do you have a better idea of how questionable such an assertion is. It's a "you don't know the half of it" paragraph - or in this case, maybe more like "you don't know the tiniest fraction of it."

Besides, what they call "research" is probably watching that-guy-whose-name-rhymes-with-VANITY every night.

[Iggo]

43. It's not for them.

It’s for people who want to talk shit to them.

[ChazInAz]

12. I use somewhat less than subtle snark.

"Which journal published your research?"

[plimsoll]

13. Journal of Irreproducible Results.

It was a follow up to my article on light sinks.

[Jim__]

14. Bookmarking.

[ck4829]

15. K&R

[SergeStorms]

16. They wouldn't understand a word of that.

They might read that, but none of it would register in their brains. We're dealing with people who have high-school educations, at best.
Not that there's anything wrong with having a high-school education, but when researching scientific journals and papers, advanced degrees would be helpful, or even necessary.
Pearls before swine.

[Viz]

17. THIS is such a powerful statement of truth

Our language has been hijacked by quick one liners that mean nothing. We have been lulled to sleep by advertising, hate media and other "influencers" that shortcut the process of finding truth. Thank you for sharing this thoughtful response to these shortcuts.

[calimary]

20. Welcome to DU, Viz!

Yeah, I totally get that. Bumper-sticker politics, as in, short enough to fit on a bumper-sticker. Which means you've literally gone into the issue at hand - to a length about as deep as that bumper-sticker is thick.

[Missn-Hitch]

24. Too many fancy words for them.

[keithbvadu2]

25. Research

[GopherGal]

41. This!

The US economy should be positively bursting with innovation now that we have 30% of the population doing medical research.

Though I'm not sure they've grasped yet that there's a difference between publishing a peer-reviewed publication and posting a meme on Facebook.

[Kaleva]

52. LOL!

[ismnotwasm]

26. Thank you

[Xolodno]

27. They won't get it.

...too many words. Needs to be in simple meme form of less than 10 words. Plus they will never understand statistical probabilities. Maths is hard!

[DippyDem]

54. This!!

I have tried to explain % in maths to my brother over and over..still he doesn't get it. It has to do with his investing in precious metals. Yes he is very right wing and sees the world in so much strange ways and believes in conspiracies besides being an ardent anti-vaxer. Unfortunately we do not speak to each other any longer and has lost most of our family of brothers and sister.

[Xolodno]

62. Ah yes! Buy GOLD! SILVER! etc.

Because the USA is going to collapse!

Well, if it did, metals are the last thing you want...particularly when it all goes to hell. It doesn't hold that much value and flashing that stuff around will grab attention.

Need to do what the Nazi's did when they fled Germany. Rare stones of various values, quality and quantities and I don't mean diamonds, but the lesser used such as rubies, emeralds, etc.. A metal detector will pick up gold in no time. Small rocks hold more value and can be hidden in the inseam of various clothing, luggage, etc. Plus its easier to exchange something like that without to much attention (it was part of my aunt Petunia's necklace, I already sold the gold). Yank out a gold bar, you'll have a gun to your head eventually asking for the rest. Of course, that's if you think you will need to take flight to another country, area, etc.

As an investment, that stuff isn't very liquid. Plus you pay full price when buying it and have to wait some time before it appreciates. Even then, accounting for inflation....

[DippyDem]

75. Yes! I never had interest in metals.

the problem has to do with understanding percentages. Like say gold is worth $1000 and goes up 10 bux. Silver worth 10 bux and goes up 1 dollar. He would see gold as the better deal as it went up more than silver. In actuality, silver went up 10% and gold only went up 1%. He just stares at me blankly and thinks I'm out of my mind. Somehow he thinks 10 bux is a better gain than 1 buck. Go figure. It is sad.

[ShazamIam]

28. People don't know how to vet information and one of the easiest ways to know if something needs

to be deeply vetted or not can be found in the words and phrases used in the article itself.

Our conservatives, liberal/progressives no longer use the same dictionaries.
Some articles only need to be dismissed as read.

[NeoGreen]

29. Confirmation Bias

[griloco]

30. Herman Cain did my research...

[Wounded Bear]

31. Applicable to a wide array of disciplines and fields of research...

[NNadir]

32. Regrettably this excellent analysis applies far more broadly than with vaccines.

I've certainly experienced something similar when it comes to discussions of energy.

I was recently told, in this space, that I could understand nuclear energy by reading and article on toxicology by Ronan Farrow and by watching a John Oliver video.

[Joinfortmill]

34. YES!

[NullTuples]

35. Looks great & all but I give the MAGA crowd 5 minutes before flipping it and using it as their own.

[RicROC]

37. My sister refuses to be vax'd because she is a researcher...

and had looked at the research. Shehas no medical training and was a part-time business teacher. She has NO credentials other than being able to click on the computer with her fingers and read what pops up through her bifocals.

I will send her this posting because it says everything about what real research is about.

[Trueblue Texan]

38. This is GREAT!!!!

[mrsadm]

39. Excellent! I'm saving this one!

[RestoRay]

42. Depends on what you're trying to accomplish.

If you’re trying to win people over, a smug and condescending response like that isn’t going to work. If you’re just trying to get high-fives from your like-minded Internet friends then it’s some decent copy/paste material.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

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[niyad]

47. KNR and bookmarking

[keithbvadu2]

49. Fellow researchers

[Kaleva]

50. Is she saying that doing a quick Google search isn't actual research?

[KY_EnviroGuy]

67. Research is when you hit the reload button after your initial Google search result.

KY............

[Kaleva]

82. LOL!

[Skittles]

51. excellent

when the vaccines first came out, I did search for articles about them because they did seem to come out fast, and I did not have absolute trust of anything when Donald Fucking Trump was "president".........but I call that EDUCATING myself, not "research". What I read convinced me to get vaccinated!

[Fla Dem]

53. Wow, just WOW!!! Nailed it sister!

[PatrickforB]

55. I bookmarked this post because I do research for a living. Not academic but

applied. You can't be sloppy, and you must always be ready to explain the data in detail.

[CaptainTruth]

56. Thanks! I've saved that & will use it liberally.

[area51]

60. Bravo

[ShazzieB]

64. I actually did not do that much "research" on the vaccines.

I didn't need to, because I already knew what vaccines are and how they work, which is something a lot of these self-dubbed "researchers" still don't seem to grasp!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

65. This is the best advertisement that I have ever seen.

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[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

66. I memorized the Gettysburg Address in high school. This would be harder.

Even if I did, I can see the MAGAt's eyes glazing over halfway through the second sentence. I love the way she wrote it, though. I might apply it to some of my deeply held opinions.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

68. Speaking for myself, the best response to "Do your own research" would be....

"I am not able to do my own research even though I'm a retired engineer and believe in the Scientific Method. That's why I rely on the advice of medical professionals and prestigious medical schools and organizations. Doing my own research would require months of dedicated time and subscription access to very expensive medical research sources and journals. In addition, I would have to learn the meaning of thousands of words that are new and foreign to me. I would likely have to hire a staff of assistants just to organize and compile the data, and pay independent medical professionals to do results reviews."

and.....

"Sorry, I'm too busy tending to myself, my home and my family. That's a full time job at my age."


Thanks for the post, KPete......

[Johnny2X2X]

78. Bravo

In a Facebook thread someone told me that I should do my own research, my reply was that I didn't have to, I have a doctor who researches things like this that I listen to. No research needed. Now if I thought my doctor was giving me bad information, I might research a new doctor.

The idea that we all have to do our own "research" on every little thing is silly. If I am getting a medical procedure, I won't do any real research on it, but I might educate myself on the procedure by reading a few articles.

[malaise]

70. Brilliant

Rec

[Farmer-Rick]

71. Yeah, in the real world doing real research is a

Long and labor intensive task.

What most people substitute for real research is relying on a handful of information sources. Unfortunately, those sources are easily corrupted and manipulated.

But then that is the goal of misinformation. To make citizens unsure and doubt the motives of everyone.

[Raster]

72. Yep, sitting on your fat ass watching YouTube conspiracy videos IS. NOT. RESEARCH.

I had someone try and throw that "do your own research" shit in my face. I asked them for theirs. Told them I wanted to do a peer review. I told them I wanted all their pertinent information, cites, and sources.

Funny, I still haven't seen a damn thing from them. It's been weeks.

[Gore1FL]

73. My response is shorter:

"I am not sure making yourself available as a petri dish is the same thing as research."

[Hotler]

74. This is written at too high of a grade level for repugs to comprehend.

I like it.

[DinahMoeHum]

77. ""You 'researched' it?" Bull. Shit."

. . .is how I would have responded.

[andym]

80. Not so easy. To simplify I think quality peer review might be the most critical; example below

Just ask someone if their "research" sources are peer reviewed and accepted. If the sources are not scientific but political in nature or news stories, there is no peer review, but make sure they have been fact-checked by multiple non-biased services.

Here's an example of what I mean with regard to science:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215800393

Misunderstanding preliminary scientific results led to the ivermectin fiasco.
Work on cultured cells (cells grown on plastic) is considered a way to get preliminary data on whether a drug might be useful for a disease.

1000's of drugs look good on cultured cells for numerous diseases: few actually work in humans for various reasons. Hydroxychloroquine worked well in cultured cells too, btw. However, human trials showed no effect for hydroxychloroquine-- turned out the cell line used was more limited than normal human lung cells in how SARS-Cov2 could bind.

Ivermectin kills invertebrate parasites by binding to invertebrate glutamate-gated chloride channels in nerve cells, hyperpolarizing the nerve cells causing paralysis and death.

Ivermectin also appears to have antiviral activity against numerous viruses possibly due to an off-target ability to block transport of proteins into the nucleus of cells by binding to importin (IMP) α/β1. At high concentrations many drugs bind to other than their original intended target.

Last year, some scientists decided to test whether it would also work against Sars-Cov2 in cell culture. Here is the paper showing that it worked against Sars-Cov2 on cultured cells: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011 They mention that similar favorable cell culture data for dengue virus led to a human trial which showed NO efficacy. That is typical of something working in cells on a dish but not in animals or people.

But looking at their data for Covid-19 they needed >5 uM dose of ivermectin for 50% efficacy (it's off-target after all) [they need closer to 10 µM to be effective] and normal human dose only brings the tissue level to .0873 µM-- which is 60 times too little to do any good. Basically ivermectin was DOA for Covid-19 after that realization. Data on dosing from https://ascpt.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cpt.1889

But that didn't stop some reading news stories and even some scientists to think it might work-- there are even clinical trials exploring its use, which will almost certainly will not show efficacy based on the need for toxic doses of the drug for the treatment to even have a chance. Why? Misunderstanding the significance of preliminary scientific results.

[calimary]

81. I. Just. Absolutely. LOVE. This!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

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