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Politico Playbook PM is reporting that Speaker Pelosi (Original Post) Tomconroy Sep 2021 OP
Repukes win again. onecaliberal Sep 2021 #1
Yep and there will not be a second Bettie Sep 2021 #6
Sadly, I agree. onecaliberal Sep 2021 #12
We win because we get a bill and have something to run on in the midterms. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #24
They're going to run on the fact that we caved. onecaliberal Sep 2021 #26
Nope...voters want bipartisanship...Biden won on it. They want us to get something done that Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #28
No voters want what democrats ran in TO BE PASSED. onecaliberal Sep 2021 #31
DAMN budkin Sep 2021 #2
Lol Fullduplexxx Sep 2021 #3
if the vote happens and it passes qazplm135 Sep 2021 #4
While I disagree that there will be no chance of it happening, I definitely think we will need to ColinC Sep 2021 #7
Sinema is apparently qazplm135 Sep 2021 #9
Oh man ColinC Sep 2021 #10
This is how she's worked her way up since she was Stein/Green Party. Budi Sep 2021 #13
It works for Bernie and Angus Klaralven Sep 2021 #20
They were never democrats qazplm135 Sep 2021 #21
According to his wiki entry, Bernie was a Democrat twice - Democratic (2015-2016, 2019-2020) Klaralven Sep 2021 #22
Hahaha... Come on. Really? CrackityJones75 Sep 2021 #23
we all know that wasn't real qazplm135 Sep 2021 #30
She will have to be primaried...there is no choice. She is going to lose a general with her Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #25
This is probably a good thing in the long run, but it increases the urgency of passing voting rights ColinC Sep 2021 #5
Pelosi has to work with what she's been given. Budi Sep 2021 #8
I think they are prioritizing voting rights -which Sinema and Manchin have made clear they want done ColinC Sep 2021 #11
except that they both continually qazplm135 Sep 2021 #14
... ColinC Sep 2021 #15
Gosh, it's always something. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2021 #16
Is this the 3.5 trillion bill? Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2021 #17
It's that joke of a so called "bipartisan bill". SMDH!! nt Carlitos Brigante Sep 2021 #19
It is a good bill. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #29
Not surprised. It was good political theater while it lasted. jalan48 Sep 2021 #18
Democrats are in control of the White House, the House, and the Senate Poiuyt Sep 2021 #27

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
6. Yep and there will not be a second
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 03:52 PM
Sep 2021

infrastructure bill. Mitch will tell Joe to kill it and he will.

onecaliberal

(32,812 posts)
26. They're going to run on the fact that we caved.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:20 PM
Sep 2021

It’s their playbook why does everyone pretend we haven’t read this book ten thousand times. The republicans are not going to raise the debt ceiling to purposely cause chaos and more hardship for President Biden.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
28. Nope...voters want bipartisanship...Biden won on it. They want us to get something done that
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:43 PM
Sep 2021

helps them. And the bipartisan bill is a good bill that does that...I hope we get the other one but let's not lose this opportunity.

onecaliberal

(32,812 posts)
31. No voters want what democrats ran in TO BE PASSED.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:25 AM
Sep 2021

Not watered down, not more tax cut bullshit for those who own Congress. See progressive caucus.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
4. if the vote happens and it passes
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 03:35 PM
Sep 2021

you can say goodbye to ANY reconciliation. There's no reason for Sinema or the House moderates to vote for anything. And Manchin might vote for something, but it won't be much more at all.

Progressives hold the power still, they vote it down, and everyone will have to go back to the negotiating board to get something.

ColinC

(8,285 posts)
7. While I disagree that there will be no chance of it happening, I definitely think we will need to
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 03:52 PM
Sep 2021

make it a huge priority the next time we have enough votes to pass it. Because quite frankly, right now, we just don't. Or at least it appears that way

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
9. Sinema is apparently
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 04:13 PM
Sep 2021

exploring the idea of going independent. I think the idea that she is likely to get primaried, coupled with the fact that independents outnumber Dems in AZ, might be leading her to think she can run in the Dem primary as an independent.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
13. This is how she's worked her way up since she was Stein/Green Party.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 04:24 PM
Sep 2021

She rides on the backs & benefits of others to advance herself. Which I guess is accepted since she's not the 1st to do so.

I don't know who she's beholden to with the opposition she's displayed as a D, but then maybe it's best she move on.
Independent kinda means anyway she feels at the moment. So gee, thanks for the lift upwards Democrats!!

Not sure how AZ will feel about her next election.

Best wishes Ms Sinema..

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
23. Hahaha... Come on. Really?
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:11 PM
Sep 2021

Only when he runs for president. Oh and also while he enjoys a sweetheart deal with the dems to not rub against him in VT.

Come on man I voted fir Bernie in the primary but we can’t be blind to the facts.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
30. we all know that wasn't real
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 01:22 AM
Sep 2021

and I have never voted for Bernie, not a huge fan, but if we are going to talk facts, the facts are that the progressive side was the one being team players this go around.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
25. She will have to be primaried...there is no choice. She is going to lose a general with her
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:17 PM
Sep 2021

numbers,

ColinC

(8,285 posts)
5. This is probably a good thing in the long run, but it increases the urgency of passing voting rights
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 03:51 PM
Sep 2021

and gaining seats in the next election. If we can gain two Senate seats next year -while keeping the house, we stand a higher chance of actually passing more reconciliation bills and potentially ending the filibuster (at least conditionally).

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
8. Pelosi has to work with what she's been given.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 04:00 PM
Sep 2021

Think this sudden change may have something to do with Schumer finding a work-around for Voter Rights passage without the Repukes?

It's clearly all being decided in close door, late night discussions.

I'll keep the faith that our Established Dems have seen some hostile Congressional battles thru their many years, & draw from those successes, failures & maneuvers to bring this moment together for their President & America.

Very best to them all & Thank You.

It is a sketchy time for our Dem Congress

ColinC

(8,285 posts)
11. I think they are prioritizing voting rights -which Sinema and Manchin have made clear they want done
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 04:17 PM
Sep 2021

in some way. So a lot of the energy that was going into passing the reconciliation infrastructure bill may be redirected to voting rights -which I think is far more important anyways. I can't imagine they would vote against a filibuster exemption for their own bill, but we'll see.

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,801 posts)
17. Is this the 3.5 trillion bill?
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 06:03 PM
Sep 2021

Cause if that number gets knocked down significantly, we're screwed in 2022.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
29. It is a good bill.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:47 PM
Sep 2021

"Not many people wake up thrilled at the possibility of a federal bill on infrastructure. But the US Senate’s passage of a $1 trillion infrastructure bill, with $550 billion in new spending, is a big deal — one that could directly and indirectly affect Americans’ lives.

The bill, passed in a bipartisan 69-30 vote on Tuesday, includes a lot of measures that will help current and future generations: a major expansion of high-speed internet; spending for roads, bridges, and public transit; and funding for clean drinking water. It includes new measures to combat climate change, like money for electric vehicles and modernizing the power grid."

The bipartisan bill does a good amount on its own
Priced at $550 billion in new federal spending, the bipartisan deal focuses almost entirely on physical infrastructure projects that will move to rebuild parts of American society and take action on longer-term issues, from climate change to improving internet access.

Here are the areas that would get major new spending:

Transportation projects: The bill would spend $110 billion in new funds for roads, bridges, and related projects. It also would commit $39 billion for public transit — which the Biden administration described as “the largest federal investment in public transit in history” — along with $66 billion for rail. It’d spend $42 billion on ports, airports, and related projects. And it would invest $11 billion in making America’s roads safer.
Reconnected communities: In the past few decades of road construction, many American cities have been physically divided by large highways, disproportionately affecting minority communities. The bill would spend $1 billion to reconnect many of these places.
High-speed internet: The bill would spend $65 billion with a goal of providing broadband internet to all Americans, further aiming to boost competition among providers and reduce the cost of high-speed internet to make it more affordable.
Electric vehicles: The bill would put $7.5 billion into a national network of electric vehicle chargers. It would also put $7.5 billion toward electrifying buses and ferries. These actions, the Biden administration said, are meant to create jobs but also help tackle global warming by decarbonizing major components of American transportation systems.
Other action on climate change: The bill would also make several other investments meant to combat climate change, including $28 billion for power grid infrastructure, resiliency, and reliability (in part to help expand the reach of clean energy) and $46 billion to, in part, mitigate damage from floods, wildfires, and droughts.
Clean drinking water: The deal would spend $55 billion on clean water infrastructure, particularly to eliminate lead pipes and other dangerous chemicals in today’s service lines.
Cleaning up the environment: The bill would also commit $21 billion to environmental remediation, particularly to clean up Superfund and brownfield sites, abandoned mines, and orphaned gas wells.
The plan is paid for through repurposed unused funds from the economic relief package, anti-fraud enforcement for unemployment benefits, a delay on a Medicare Part D rebate rule, and several other generally smaller sources. But the Congressional Budget Office found that the deal would still add $256 billion over 10 years to the deficit.

None of this may be as exciting as the government mailing you cash, but it’s a big deal nonetheless: On top of the traditional rebuilding of crumbling infrastructure that you’d expect in this kind of plan, it also tackles a host of issues that have been very present in Americans’ lives over the past year or so. That includes global warming amid intensifying droughts, heat, and wildfires, but also issues like many Americans’ inability to work from home or attend school virtually, at least with any consistency, during Covid-19 lockdowns due to poor internet access.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
27. Democrats are in control of the White House, the House, and the Senate
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:20 PM
Sep 2021

But it sure seems that conservatives run the country.

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