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Romney can't win without OH WI or combo of IA + NV — he trails in all four (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2012 OP
i am not seeing any way seabeyond Oct 2012 #1
Robme "Wins" by Stealing Ohio, Florida and Wisconsin AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #10
mmmm, i am not seeing close enough in ohio for theft. seabeyond Oct 2012 #18
ok, I have a question tulsakatz Oct 2012 #2
good point bigtree Oct 2012 #5
That's an excellent point that I hadn't even thought of. LeftofObama Oct 2012 #6
you're welcome guys... tulsakatz Oct 2012 #12
because they're trying to find a path to 270 for Romney Coexist Oct 2012 #11
haha......that explains it, kind of tulsakatz Oct 2012 #13
Because of the "Red Shift" AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #20
All rMoney needs is Ohio or Wisconsin krawhitham Oct 2012 #3
I don't know where you're getting the 277-261... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #7
Try the link I posted krawhitham Oct 2012 #8
grantcart has him at 319. lol that's what happens when you take the Garvis out of your a#% grantcart Oct 2012 #16
Combinations to win exboyfil Oct 2012 #9
another interesting map... tulsakatz Oct 2012 #17
Todays PPP has Virginia +2 Obama, New Ohio poll to be released between 2-3 today krawhitham Oct 2012 #4
This will be an important poll, PPP has recently shown not been very "Demo leaning" recently!!! winstars Oct 2012 #19
I want Obama to try to lock down Florida... that'll really end Romney's chances. reformist2 Oct 2012 #14
Romney can't win without Ohio. Every non scenario without Ohio is ludicrious. grantcart Oct 2012 #15
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
1. i am not seeing any way
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:46 PM
Oct 2012

romney wins. and it is an obvious to me.

i read on here, people talking it is a tight race, or possible romney win.

yet, i do not see it as far as state wins.

i am also not listening to media.

sometimes, i wonder what i am missing. mostly, i ignore it all. lol

tulsakatz

(3,122 posts)
2. ok, I have a question
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 01:49 PM
Oct 2012

thank you for that map....it looks good but when you look at VA, they have Obama at 48.0% & Romney at 48.0% & yet they gave the state's 13 electoral votes to Romney! Why?

That seems odd to me because if they're dead even, they shouldn't give the votes to anyone yet...

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
5. good point
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:01 PM
Oct 2012

. . . and I believe Va. might be trending up for Obama. Prez is spending a lot of time there . . . Romney, too.

tulsakatz

(3,122 posts)
12. you're welcome guys...
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:44 PM
Oct 2012

I just thought it was odd that they would give to a guy who hadn't even won yet!

Coexist

(24,542 posts)
11. because they're trying to find a path to 270 for Romney
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:44 PM
Oct 2012

and giving him that, but then looking at the remaining toss-ups. He won't win if we all vote.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
7. I don't know where you're getting the 277-261...
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:32 PM
Oct 2012

538.com estimates 287.8 EV, while Princeton Elections Consortium gives Obama 299.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
9. Combinations to win
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:42 PM
Oct 2012

Lose big 4 but win:
MI, PA, WI, CO, IA, NV, NH

Win OH
MI, PA, OH, WI or CO, IA or NV
MI, PA, OH, IA, NV, and NH (win without either CO or WI)

Win NC
MI, PA, NC, CO, WI
MI, PA, NC, CO or WI, and 2 of 3 (IA, NV, NH)


Win VA
MI, PA, VA, WI, IA or NV, NH
MI, PA, VA, and 3 of 4 (WI, CO, NV, IA)

tulsakatz

(3,122 posts)
17. another interesting map...
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:53 PM
Oct 2012

but even if you look at that map, I don't see where he could flip one more state. Maybe it's possible, I'm just not seeing it...

winstars

(4,220 posts)
19. This will be an important poll, PPP has recently shown not been very "Demo leaning" recently!!!
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 03:27 PM
Oct 2012

2 or 3 points+ won't be good news, I am for hoping 5+...

We will know soon...

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
15. Romney can't win without Ohio. Every non scenario without Ohio is ludicrious.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:46 PM
Oct 2012

If he then picks up NV or IA or VA, which he now leads it becomes high comedy.
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