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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,985 posts)
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 09:12 PM Sep 2021

Shutdown, default odds increase as GOP buckles up to block debt limit hike

Lisa Murkowski isn’t fully comfortable with her fellow Republicans’ stance on the debt ceiling, which could risk a U.S. debt default or a government shutdown. She recognizes, however, that she’s something of a unicorn.

“I always look carefully at things that will tie or limit our ability to address things on the [government funding] side. So, I probably take a different view of it than different colleagues,” Murkowski said on Tuesday, referring to the possibility that the debt ceiling conflict causes a shutdown next week.

The moderate senator is one of a handful of Republicans who are uncomfortable — or undecided — on how to handle a bill that would avert a shutdown on Oct. 1, supply disaster relief money and lift the debt ceiling through the 2022 election. Regardless of where they come down, it’s not going to be enough to hand Democrats a lifeline: Republicans are certain to filibuster the bill once it passes the House, according to interviews with a dozen GOP senators on Tuesday.

Sens. John Kennedy and Bill Cassidy, the two Louisiana Republicans, are viewed as probable “yes” votes after their state’s Hurricane Ida experience. Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) declined to say if she’d vote to advance the bill, reiterating instead her hopes to keep the debt ceiling separate from government funding. Asked if she was undecided on how she might vote, Murkowski replied: “I’m just not telling anybody.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/shutdown-default-odds-increase-as-gop-buckles-up-to-block-debt-limit-hike/ar-AAOFL6O

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Shutdown, default odds increase as GOP buckles up to block debt limit hike (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
Moscow Mitch just wants Dems to waste a Reconciliation vote Hassler Sep 2021 #1
Oh! leftieNanner Sep 2021 #4
That would not be necessary. Democrats can pass a third budget resolution and reconciliation bill tritsofme Sep 2021 #8
There will be no reconciliation vote to raise the debt ceiling. gab13by13 Sep 2021 #9
As predicted by me and many others here, months ago. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2021 #2
They are all scum. Dawson Leery Sep 2021 #6
The House already voted to raise the debt ceiling tonight. gab13by13 Sep 2021 #10
just these so and sos playing with my life again. AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #3
Republicans are just pure evil Dave says Sep 2021 #5
I'm not to smart at this type of thing, BUT bluestarone Sep 2021 #7
That is pretty obvious, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #12
I have an idea, gab13by13 Sep 2021 #11

Hassler

(3,377 posts)
1. Moscow Mitch just wants Dems to waste a Reconciliation vote
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 09:17 PM
Sep 2021

On the debt, so they can't use it for the infrastructure bill.

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
8. That would not be necessary. Democrats can pass a third budget resolution and reconciliation bill
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 09:36 PM
Sep 2021

that is specific to raising the debt ceiling, though it would be a time consuming process.

This presumably must be Plan B?

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
2. As predicted by me and many others here, months ago.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 09:21 PM
Sep 2021

Republicans only squawk about the debt when a Democrat is in charge, with the hope that Democratic leaders will get blamed for the damage of their own doing.

They're willing to lie, cheat and even KILL for the sake of power.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
6. They are all scum.
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 09:29 PM
Sep 2021

Romney is still a POS (he is still undecided) as are Cheney and Kinzinger.

Every Democrat voted to raise the ceiling in 2017 when the GOP was in power. There was no filibuster.

Dave says

(4,617 posts)
5. Republicans are just pure evil
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 09:28 PM
Sep 2021

To get there way they’re willing to throw the world into recession and wipe out $15 trillion of shared wealth at the blink of an eye. The politicals willing to do this - and those that vote them in - are just evil and low-information zombies. The latter are those that pull the lever for Republicans without appreciating the consequences. Both hurt many people, even themselves, without caring.

bluestarone

(16,940 posts)
7. I'm not to smart at this type of thing, BUT
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 09:33 PM
Sep 2021

I gotta believe that the stock market would completely collapse? Who would be blamed?

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
12. That is pretty obvious,
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:40 PM
Sep 2021

McConnell has promised to filibuster raising the debt limit. Who should we blame?

gab13by13

(21,337 posts)
11. I have an idea,
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:39 PM
Sep 2021

how about a vote to eliminate the filibuster for debt ceiling votes? Would Manchin and Sinema want to be blamed for crashing the world's economy?

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