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Demovictory9

(32,423 posts)
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 01:23 AM Sep 2021

Professor Allegedly Spat on Black Woman, Yelled Slurs during parking lot dispute

https://www.newser.com/story/311311/professor-allegedly-spat-on-black-woman-yelled-slurs.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_world_login


A college professor in Illinois has been charged with a hate crime in connection with a confrontation outside a grocery store in a Chicago suburb earlier this month. Alberto Friedmann, 53, allegedly spat on a Black woman and yelled racial slurs at the woman and her 7-year-old daughter in a dispute in the parking lot of the Oak Park store, NBC reports. Prosecutors say the woman was parked outside the store but not blocking traffic when she heard Friedmann "honking and yelling" in a Jaguar behind her, per CBS Chicago. He allegedly yelled slurs when she motioned for him to drive around her. He then allegedly got out of his car and spat in the woman's face when she tried to leave her vehicle.


The woman had been waiting for her mother, who witnessed the confrontation after leavint the store. According to court records, the professor told the woman he spat on her because he "doesn't like Black people." Friedmann has also been charged with aggravated assault. Prosecutors say that when the woman got out of her car to try to get his license plate number, he accelerated toward her, narrowly missing her and deliberately hitting her vehicle, causing damage on the driver's side, reports the Chicago Tribune. Witnesses intervened when he got out of his car a second time.

Prosecutors say that when police took him into custody, Friedmann admitted spitting on the woman and hitting her car. At a court hearing Sunday, Friedmann's lawyer says his client denies using racial slurs. "He’s a minority himself. He’s a child of immigrants," the attorney said. Friedmann teaches neurokinesiology at the National University of Health Sciences in Lombard, another Chicago suburb. The institution says he has been suspended pending an investigation.

https://www.newser.com/story/311311/professor-allegedly-spat-on-black-woman-yelled-slurs.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_world_login

Friedmann suffers from Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, an inherited condition that causes overly flexible limbs, as well as early-onset Parkinson’s disease, McNamara said. His wife suffers from a debilitating condition that requires 24-hour care. He was also featured on a segment on Discovery Health Channel, discussing the constant threat of his limbs dislocating because of his EDS condition.

The judge ordered bail, saying she “couldn’t ignore” the circumstances of the incident taking place in front of a child.

“May I make one statement?” Friedmann asked after the judge made her ruling. “Don’t say anything please,” his attorney answered.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-professor-accused-hate-crime-oak-park-20210919-ypbang4wl5apbipi4earsaw3l4-story.html
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Professor Allegedly Spat on Black Woman, Yelled Slurs during parking lot dispute (Original Post) Demovictory9 Sep 2021 OP
The racist bastard deserves jail, and she will own that Jag of his... brush Sep 2021 #1
He says he's a minority as well. jimfields33 Sep 2021 #4
What is your point? MrsCoffee Sep 2021 #8
That he says he's a minority. jimfields33 Sep 2021 #9
So? MrsCoffee Sep 2021 #10
How can it be a hate crime? jimfields33 Sep 2021 #11
Are you serious? MrsCoffee Sep 2021 #12
This is a discussion thread. jimfields33 Sep 2021 #13
So, discuss. MrsCoffee Sep 2021 #15
It appears Friedmann's atty is claiming hate crime is an impossibility Devil Child Sep 2021 #17
His attorney might have a hard time with that. MrsCoffee Sep 2021 #19
Good link, thanks! I hope his attorney fails hard in this grasping at straws attempt Devil Child Sep 2021 #20
Where did you read he was Jewish? Mosby Sep 2021 #26
From Mr. Friedmann's own quoted words Devil Child Sep 2021 #28
Wow. Just not a good try there. Kingofalldems Sep 2021 #27
So what. He also admitted to the cops he spit on her and... brush Sep 2021 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2021 #2
From the original op: "Friedmann suffers...". I can't come up with any sympathy abqtommy Sep 2021 #3
Out of control Friedmann fries self. harumph Sep 2021 #5
What Does His Or His Wife's.... ProfessorGAC Sep 2021 #6
You see he can't be locked up because he has to care for her malaise Sep 2021 #7
Yeah, like he does it himself 24/7 dalton99a Sep 2021 #14
That defense is . . . a choice Sympthsical Sep 2021 #18
Without Endorsing The View, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #22
Road-raging psychopath Devil Child Sep 2021 #16
Glad he didn't have a gun. Midnight Writer Sep 2021 #21
Can I just ask that as a part of whatever sentence he gets... Takket Sep 2021 #23
Why does this matter? JustAnotherGen Sep 2021 #25

brush

(53,743 posts)
1. The racist bastard deserves jail, and she will own that Jag of his...
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 01:28 AM
Sep 2021

once she sues his ass. Wait, she'll get herself a new Jag, not the dented up one the jailbird used to own.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
17. It appears Friedmann's atty is claiming hate crime is an impossibility
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 09:11 AM
Sep 2021

As Friedmann is a minority due to his Jewish heritage and being a child of immigrants.

I don't agree with this thought process at all, but it appears that is what is being pushed by his defense.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
19. His attorney might have a hard time with that.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 09:25 AM
Sep 2021
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/hate-crime-laws-protection.html

The Defendant's Group Membership Does Not Matter

The fact that the defendant belongs to the same race, religion, or ethnicity as the victim is irrelevant, so long as the victim was attacked because of some prohibited reason. For example, in In re Vladimir P., 670 N.E.2d 839 (Ill. App. 1996), three teens attacked a 13-year-old Orthodox Jewish boy, threatening him, calling him a Jew, and throwing a knife at him. The court rejected one of the defendant's argument that because he too was Jewish he could not have committed a hate crime. Members of protected groups can also harbor animus.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
28. From Mr. Friedmann's own quoted words
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 03:15 PM
Sep 2021
Alberto Friedmann sometimes lights candles on Shabbat. He once competed in the Maccabi games. He was confirmed and became a bar mitzvah as a youngster. Today, he still celebrates many of the holidays and even taught his stepchildren the dreidel game.

His Judaism is important to him.

“It’s a large part of how I became who I am,” said the 45-year-old. “It is a central aspect to me as I am now.”

However, Friedmann does not belong to a congregation and has little or no connection to the organized Jewish community. Part of that is a function of distance. He lives in Highland, Ill., nearly an hour’s drive from a Missouri synagogue. But more to the point, he’s still looking for the right fit.


https://stljewishlight.org/news/news-local/can-we-talk-jews-and-affiliation/

brush

(53,743 posts)
24. So what. He also admitted to the cops he spit on her and...
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 02:26 PM
Sep 2021

damaged her car with his trying run her down.

Kaching!

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
3. From the original op: "Friedmann suffers...". I can't come up with any sympathy
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 05:56 AM
Sep 2021

for Friedmann here. He isn't the victim, he's the bully.

ProfessorGAC

(64,877 posts)
6. What Does His Or His Wife's....
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 07:55 AM
Sep 2021

...medical condition have to do with this incident?
Not sure how the tribune thought that belonged in the story.
The story is about an educated adult that should know better acted like a racist jerk. And, that's all.

Sympthsical

(9,041 posts)
18. That defense is . . . a choice
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 09:18 AM
Sep 2021

I've had incredibly stressful days, weeks, months, etc.

Somehow, that has never resulted in my calling someone a racial slur in the Safeway parking lot.

He sounds like a side villain in a John Hughes movie. Asshole upper class guy in a nice car being a galloping wanker to the main character. By the end, he gets his comeuppance when, I dunno, a shopping cart full of open paint cans goes flying towards his beloved car.

Doesn't help that he looks the part.

The Magistrate

(95,243 posts)
22. Without Endorsing The View, Sir
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:40 AM
Sep 2021

I would suppose the line would be that someone under such mental stress as coping with such things can produce may be forgiven for snapping under the strain.

Up against this is that he drives a Jaguar, and a witness claim he said he does not like black people.

He has a good lawyer, though, and sense enough to obey instructions.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
23. Can I just ask that as a part of whatever sentence he gets...
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:45 AM
Sep 2021

That his jag is crushed into a cube and he is forced to live with it?

And he’s never allowed to spend more than $5000 on a car ever again.

That will destroy him.

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
25. Why does this matter?
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 02:29 PM
Sep 2021

Friedmann suffers from Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, an inherited condition that causes overly flexible limbs, as well as early-onset Parkinson’s disease, McNamara said. His wife suffers from a debilitating condition that requires 24-hour care. He was also featured on a segment on Discovery Health Channel, discussing the constant threat of his limbs dislocating because of his EDS condition



Why should I feel empathy for these people? I mean seriously. . .

He's a deranged violent human being who put not just a child at risk - but two women as well.

Actions have consequences - but of course . . . He'll get a slap on his wrist, community service etc. etc.


When the victims are black - the justice system and America are against us.
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