I am so pissed, I could spit fucking nails.

[mercuryblues]

My niece in law's nephews got covid, from their fucking teacher. She knew she had covid and taught anyhow.

He family had a get together over the weekend and the kids spread it around. My nephew (has only had 1 shot) and my 2 year old great nephew both have tested positive.

Apparently their school is not reporting the cases, DHEC called my nephew and asked if he knew where he caught it. He let them know how.

Will heads roll over this...nope. That teacher should be fired and never allowed near kids again.

[Tetrachloride]

1. I suggest the family to consult a lawyer. A brainstorming session could fo wonders for your blood .

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pressure.

[mercuryblues]

29. Thanks

I just got off the phone with my sis. They are exploring that option.

[doc03]

2. I agree if the teacher knew she had it she should

be fired.

[SheltieLover]

3. Absolutely!

[Clash City Rocker]

5. Out of a cannon

Into a brick wall.

[tanyev]

10. !

[mercuryblues]

31. Sounds good to me.

[onecaliberal]

32. !!!

[ybbor]

51. I'm sorry...

I literally laughed out loud to great pleasure envisioning it a la Wile E. Coyote.

Touché

[Clash City Rocker]

55. No need to apologize, to me at least

A friend of mine has a teenage son in ICU right now, on Remdesivir, and he probably is only there because, somewhere down the line, someone who was supposed to be a grown-up didn’t get the damn shot or wear a mask. I’m not sure I was even joking.

[ybbor]

59. Oh I appreciate the feelings

I’m sorry about your friend’s son. Fortunately I don’t have anyone that sick in my sphere, but I’m lucky to live in a town with a high vax rate and large percentage of folks wearing masks properly.

Was saying today with a friend how selfish all of these maskholes are. Can’t kill them selves off fast enough. Unfortunately, they’re taking too many innocent bystanders with them.

[RicROC]

22. knowing you have a communicable disease and then potentially spreading it,

is attempted murder, or minimally negligent homicide, in my having 'no credentials in law' opinion.

If it were my family, the lawyer would already be requesting arrest warrants to keep that teacher out of the school and possibly house arrest to keep her inside.

[calimary]

25. That's what I would do.

Look, let’s all remember: COVID KILLS. This is a KILLER disease. To behave in such a selfish, uncaring, willfully-ignorant manner when there’s a KILLER disease still running rampant (that can still spread like wildfire and people can become infected, AND DIE, is tantamount to being an accessory to murder.

Maybe we should up the ante on this. Start publicly referring to refusal to get vaccinated as tantamount to being accessory to murder. And see if the refuseniks still want to stand against THAT.

[Deuce]

34. Seems like anyone knowing they are infected and pass it on...Reckless Endangerment?

[soldierant]

38. I would say negligent homicide if someone actually dies.

Otherise, there's always reckless endangerment. Sadly, that may nbe a misdemeanor. But some misdemeanors carry prison term. IANAL either, but as a former property and casualty underwriter, I had to learn abit about torts.

[FakeNoose]

39. Fired AND sued

[Beartracks]

47. That. Is. Awesome. ROFL

[Lochloosa]

48. They are on Amazon...just search finger umbrella

[wnylib]

44. And lose her license to teach.

Reckless endangerment. Child abuse.

[SheltieLover]

4. This is ridiculous!

Why aren't there laws in place to prevent & punish those who do this?

We need a law as well to require reporting, timely!

[Frustratedlady]

8. Didn't they have some charges that could be filed against people who knowingly passed on AIDs?

I seem to recall some men were charged, but I can't remember the details.


With COVID, it would be difficult to determine when/where a person was exposed, but intentionally going to work with the knowledge you were positive, had symptoms and were exposing others should be seriously looked at. I have teachers in the family and they are concerned about some parents who send their kids to school after they have been exposed and have symptoms. They have to send them back home, but how many have been exposed in the process?

It's a complicated situation and getting worse.

[SheltieLover]

11. I recall that too about AIDS.

It sure is complex! Very much so because some people don't even know they are positive initially.

But this teacher apparently knew.

[Dave says]

53. I was going to bring that up

Knowing one has HIV and having sex with someone else, or donating blood, is a felony or misdemeanor in 2/3 of the states. I think in one or two it’s punishable with life in prison.

[SheltieLover]

6. Please share info about multisystemic Inflammatory Syndrome with parents - link below

https://www.cdc.gov/mis/mis-c.html#:~:text=Inflammatory%20Syndrome%20(MIS)-,For%20Parents%3A%20Multisystem%20Inflammatory%20Syndrome%20in%20Children%20(MIS%2D,C)%20associated%20with%20COVID%2D19&text=Multisystem%20inflammatory%20syndrome%20in%20children%20(MIS%2DC)%20is%20a,%2C%20eyes%2C%20or%20gastrointestinal%20organs.

Poor kiddo!

Quick intervention is said to be essential!

[redwitch]

7. What state?

I hope the kids have mild cases and no lasting damage. I would be pissed too!

[bullwinkle428]

13. I want to know the state as well. It really made me suspicious when Florida's

case numbers started dropping quickly when many other states were on the rise.

[Equomba]

37. Prolly just a coinkydink.

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[FarPoint]

14. My question as well...

Hard to give feedback with knowing the state obstacles to overcome.

[jpak]

28. SC?

[mercuryblues]

56. Yup. My sis and nephew live there.

The school is still only reporting 90 students out with no positive results.

[marble falls]

9. It's crazy. I found out one of my students died of Covid a few days ago - unvaxxed ...

... the unvaxxed husband of another has Covid and "is doing fine using horse dewormer".

We had very few windows I was comfortable teaching in, and we were all masked, tables covered and sanitized.

I am surrounded by unvaxxed morons. But even my 45 loving MiL and SiL get vaxxing and masking.

I know of a strong Democrat - anti-45 and anti vax.

[UCmeNdc]

12. Get a lawyer, sue the teacher and sue the school.

They should know better.

[Crunchy Frog]

15. If it were my kids that happened to, in addition to consulting a lawyer, I would

be contacting all of the major press. Major publicity can be a good disinfectant.

[AZLD4Candidate]

16. In most school districts, teachers at told two things about COVID

1: Stay home if you know you have it, but use up all your sick time (then get guilted repeatedly for not caring about the students)
2: Don't stay home if you have in-person classes because the district has no substitute teachers so the other teachers will lose their prep periods and not get paid for it.

This is how it is in my district (along with many others in AZ). This way the administration has covered all bases to protect themselves and push their policy failures on the teacher, so parents will scream for the teacher to be fired and not the administration.

Sadly, it works every time. It's always the teacher and never the administration.

[radical noodle]

18. Not all have those rules

The system where my daughter teaches is emphatic about them staying home if they're sick, until they've had a covid test and tested negative.

[AZLD4Candidate]

20. Did I say "All?" I said in "most districts"

[NH Ethylene]

45. That's not contradictory.

The messages given to teachers is contradictory. My district also has that policy. But it then punishes you for staying home 'just in case you have Covid' by having that use up your sick days, and you feel guilty because other teachers have to lose their prep periods to cover for you.

[Farmer-Rick]

19. A funny thing happened on the way to forcing most teachers back to work

The cost of most of those newer teachers, even substitute teachers, has gone up by at least 10 percent, even here in TN.

If you have been teaching for awhile, your salary probably hasn't changed much. But teachers with less experience, who expect to get compensated when having to face a pandemic, their salaries have gone up.

Of course those teachers who are GOPers and don't think there is a pandemic are More Likely to come back to teach your children. And schools love them. GOPers are cheaper and easier to manipulate into taking risks without compensation.

[AZLD4Candidate]

23. Don't worry. A lot of principals and APs have turned into quasi tin-horn dictators

"Teachers, you will fall in line. You will not question us. And if you do, we will punish you by death by 10,000 pinpricks buy micro-managing everything you do, criticizing everything you do, ignoring everything you say, and all but threatening the rest of the faculty to turn against you."

COVID19 has made things worse. Teaching our students is now in 3rd place, behind COVID19 protocols, and paperwork/coming up with new things to do because admin has nothing on the shelf.

Hell, in my district, the principal demands all teachers call her "the boss." I don't because I don't work for the principal I work for the district, and my principal has made my life a nightmare in so many ways.

Eighteen years of teaching in four countries, eight years of school leadership experience, certification in two areas, principal certification, a master's degree, a PhD candidate, and accolades from auditors from the IB and CIE (including worldwide accepted CIE teaching certification), the criticism is ignored.

[BigmanPigman]

42. Bingo!

[LisaM]

52. My question, too.

What is the school's policy? Do they test the teachers? I certainly don't think she should have gone in, but it's not always so clear cut why she did. If there is a lawsuit, should it be against the teacher or the district?

[AZLD4Candidate]

57. Teachers are forced to follow policy. We could be in violation of our contract if we don't

So teachers are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Meanwhile, the school principals and APs get off scot-free because it's always the classroom teacher. COVID policies are all "responsibility of teacher," so if it works, principal get praise. . .and if something like this happens, teacher get blame.

[radical noodle]

17. There's not much a school system

is more afraid of than a lawsuit. Have an attorney write a letter to them to put them on notice.

[twodogsbarking]

21. The lawsuit draws attention in the media.

Mustn't have that.

[Liberty Belle]

24. Contact your public health department to inform them,

and as others suggested, consider having a lawyer send a letter.

Also show up at the next school board meeting (or dial in virtually) and raise hell so other parents will know about this and it will be part of their public record in the minutes. Demand the teacher be fired and that policies be tightened up to warn other teachers not to do this.

Also ask what the sick time policy is -- it's easier to get workers to stay home with ill if they are paid for the time off.

Is there a masking policy? If not ask that one be implemented.

I hope everyone will recover; keep us posted.

[Mme. Defarge]

26. Where are those ambulance chasing lawyers

and their class action suit ad campaign when you really need them?

[Sancho]

27. You may want to investigate...parents should call the teacher.

Sometimes things are not what you think (or exactly how the nephew reported). Even though the teacher may or may not be a problem, there are plenty of other possible situations.

The vast majority of certified and experienced teachers will do what they are told - and more often than not it's the school district or administration is telling them to do something they disagree with entirely.

We have some schools here in Florida that aggressively tell anyone with symptoms or suspected of exposure to go home, but that actually causes a different problem if half the teachers are out, there are no substitutes, and PCR tests (takes 2 days because rapid tests are not available), and 90% come back negative, and almost all the teachers and staff are vaccinated. You end up closing the school and sending hundreds home when all you get back are a bunch of negative tests.......soooooo....some administrators tell the teachers without symptoms to teach until they actually get a positive test or symptoms. Some parents are threatening to file lawsuits because they want their kid in school and don't believe in masks, vaccines, or whatever.

Districts differ on how long suspected positive teachers should stay away. We have heard everything from 3 days to 2 weeks! Districts differ on whether the teacher uses sick days (or potentially is losing money) if they stay home. It can be very complex, and your nephew has no access to exactly what policies or discussions or tests or symptoms were in place. If the teacher violated policy or instructions, then they would face reprimand or loss of their job or whatever anyway.

Some states (like Florida where I teach) specifically have passed laws making schools immune from lawsuits over COVID19!

[maddiemom]

36. Yes! My reaction was the same as yours.

[NH Ethylene]

46. Agree. There is usually another side to the story. n/t

[Hekate]

30. What state?

[NurseJackie]

33. It's child abuse.

[Vinca]

35. Better call Saul.

[mdelaguna]

49. +1

[paulkienitz]

40. could be grounds for a lawsuit, if there's a bad outcome

[Horse with no Name]

41. This sucks

Half of my granddaughters class was out with Covid and we didn’t get a call from the school.
Apparently they don’t have to disclose in Texas.

[lunatica]

43. Parents should sue that teacher in Civil Court

I don’t blame you for being so mad! I would be too! Maybe the ACLU can take something like this.

[Sancho]

54. Florida's DeSantis signs COVID-19 lawsuit protection bill

https://apnews.com/article/business-legislation-lawsuits-florida-coronavirus-pandemic-e510708ef1b7420124162acc56b58594

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida businesses, governments and healthcare providers will be protected from coronavirus lawsuits if they made a good effort to follow guidelines to prevent the spread of COVID-19 under a bill signed by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday.

The legislation was the first bill to go to the governor during the 60-day legislative session that began March 2. In order for a lawsuit to move ahead, a plaintiff would have to show that the defendant deliberately ignored guidelines.

A plaintiff would also need a signed affidavit from a doctor stating with reasonable certainty that injury or death caused by COVID-19 was a result of the defendant’s actions. The law takes effect immediately.

“This is the most aggressive COVID liability bill in the United States of America,” Sprowls said. “What this bill does is says, ‘If you’re doing the right thing, you’re protected.’”

Lawsuits in Florida over Covid have virtually no chance.

[Joinfortmill]

50. Horrible. Hope everyone will be ok.

[Blue Owl]

58. The Class of 86 Teacher of the Year

[brewens]

60. We've had people knowingly going about their business spreading it the whole time. Remember the,

"go to work and get better" quote? I can't remember the whole thing from when it was "just the flu". People are still hung up on that and the survivability rate. You can't unbrainwash them so easy.