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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 01:06 PM Sep 2021

Washington governor to Idaho officials: 'Stop clogging up my hospitals'

Last edited Thu Sep 23, 2021, 12:04 AM - Edit history (1)

Washington Gov. Jay Inslee (D) criticized neighboring Idaho's leadership late last week, saying that Idaho Gov. Brad Little's (R) policies were "clogging up" Washington's hospitals.

"Today in my state, Washington citizens in many cases cannot get heart surgery, cannot get cancer surgery that they need, because we are having to take too many people of unvaccinated nature and unmasked, many of whom come from Idaho, and that's just maddening frankly," Inslee said in an MSNBC appearance on Friday.

"So we are calling for Idaho and the leaders there to lead and take some commonsense measures," Inslee continued. "I'm disappointed the governor of Idaho has spent more time trying to reduce protection by reducing vaccine usage instead of concentrating on this, and then clogging up my hospitals."

Data shows hospital beds were at 77 percent capacity in Washington last week.

Although Inslee has issued mask mandates in particular situations, Little has yet to unveil such requirements. But Inslee pointed to a broader political issue, noting in his interview that "it's not just Idaho." Instead, Inslee criticized the whole of the GOP.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/washington-governor-to-idaho-officials-stop-clogging-up-my-hospitals/ar-AAOHVZB

On edit: Butthurt Gov. Little fires back.


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Washington governor to Idaho officials: 'Stop clogging up my hospitals' (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2021 OP
Idaho is a useless state. BradAllison Sep 2021 #1
Useless but gorgeous. maxsolomon Sep 2021 #7
That and potatoes. n/m BradAllison Sep 2021 #8
Oddly, WA produces more potatoes than ID maxsolomon Sep 2021 #10
This!!! KewlKat Sep 2021 #14
Maybe Washington produces more potatoes, but... Bucky Sep 2021 #37
I don't care HOW "beautiful" they are. calimary Sep 2021 #19
South and southwestern Idaho are so ugly it hurts. Shrike47 Sep 2021 #25
I just wish hospitals would start turning away the unvaccinated. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2021 #2
Set up a MASH tent in the parking lot Jilly_in_VA Sep 2021 #3
I do too - the only problem is leftieNanner Sep 2021 #13
ERs do quick blood work BidenRocks Sep 2021 #15
Good Thinking nt leftieNanner Sep 2021 #16
Can the test differentiate between unvaccinated infections and breakthrough infections? Lancero Sep 2021 #30
Caution mahina Sep 2021 #22
Oh, yes. Be tolerant and loving to people who essentially are content to PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2021 #31
Cheers mahina Sep 2021 #33
How would that work out, when kids under 12 are legally not allowed access to the vaccine? Lancero Sep 2021 #27
No, of course not. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2021 #34
Wish he would do more than just talk. Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #4
I wonder how much of that is out of his hands caraher Sep 2021 #5
I'm not saying don't treat them. Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #6
But when the hospital is jammed... caraher Sep 2021 #11
Got Insurance? Nt BidenRocks Sep 2021 #18
I don't believe they can or will turn away patients unless their ER beds are full. maxsolomon Sep 2021 #9
Build a wall!!! NT Bleacher Creature Sep 2021 #12
LOL!!! MsLeopard Sep 2021 #17
Won't make a bit of difference. They are dug in and will just triple down. Cough in your face, etc. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #20
Make entire family vaccination a condition. AnnaLee Sep 2021 #21
Seems hard to implement, when kids under 12 aren't allowed access to the vaccine. Lancero Sep 2021 #28
Refuse to admit all willfully unvaccinated Idahoans if they have COVID-19 symptoms, Gov. Inslee. roamer65 Sep 2021 #23
Idaho is one of 3 red states with less than 41% fully vaccinated. patphil Sep 2021 #24
Just posted to FB. My in-laws live in Idaho. I am in Washington. Missn-Hitch Sep 2021 #26
Can the state bar unvaxxinated patient transfers? temporary311 Sep 2021 #29
No, they shouldn't Bucky Sep 2021 #36
Can Washington bill Idaho for this? DBoon Sep 2021 #32
Maybe they need to build a wall. Walls work, right? Bucky Sep 2021 #35
I love Governor Little's clap back at Governor Inslee 😆 Bucky Sep 2021 #38

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
7. Useless but gorgeous.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 02:12 PM
Sep 2021

It's a really great place to vacation - hot springs everywhere, eye-bugging mountains. I saw the total solar eclipse there, north of Boise.

Not that I'll be heading there any time soon.

Bucky

(54,003 posts)
37. Maybe Washington produces more potatoes, but...
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 03:29 AM
Sep 2021

Idahoans, to their credit, actually elect them to public office.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
19. I don't care HOW "beautiful" they are.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 03:25 PM
Sep 2021

I won’t be going there or spending ANY money to prop up the economy there. ANY red state gets the same reaction and response from me.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
2. I just wish hospitals would start turning away the unvaccinated.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 01:08 PM
Sep 2021

Don't admit them if they are showing up with Covid. And if they're admitted for anything else, a vaccination to be administered immediately.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,966 posts)
3. Set up a MASH tent in the parking lot
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 01:22 PM
Sep 2021

Let the unvaccinated staff tend to them. Vaccinated staff tend to regular and vaccinated patients inside. And I concur with your suggestion about unvaccinated patients admitted for anything else...give them a first dose immediately and place them in isolation.

leftieNanner

(15,084 posts)
13. I do too - the only problem is
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 02:52 PM
Sep 2021

When a patient arrives in an ambulance, gasping for air, oxygen at 75, and in need of immediate care,

Who is going to stop and ask to see the patient's vaccine card?

I don't know the answer to this.

BidenRocks

(826 posts)
15. ERs do quick blood work
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 02:58 PM
Sep 2021

As a routine if thiere is uncertainty.
A rapid covid test will allow an appropriate triage.
Don't you agree?

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
30. Can the test differentiate between unvaccinated infections and breakthrough infections?
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 04:45 PM
Sep 2021

If we're going to be using a covid test to somehow determine vaccination status, are those suffering from breakthrough infections considered acceptable losses?

mahina

(17,651 posts)
22. Caution
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 03:41 PM
Sep 2021

Lori Garrett shared in her podcast with Andy Slavitt that she seeing more and more hostility against unvaccinated people and that we just cannot be divided or we’ll not get through this. The only way through is together. We have to still have aloha in our hearts for them and hold the vision of a united healthy country again. I know it’s asking a lot

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
31. Oh, yes. Be tolerant and loving to people who essentially are content to
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 06:37 PM
Sep 2021

deliberately spread a potentially fatal disease. I seem to be missing something.

I know, let's encourage drunk people to drive. That makes as much sense as the other.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
27. How would that work out, when kids under 12 are legally not allowed access to the vaccine?
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 04:36 PM
Sep 2021

Are they to be turned away?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
34. No, of course not.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 11:59 PM
Sep 2021

But the adults should be. And pretty soon all those over the age of 12, although that's complicated by the fact that the 12-18 year olds generally need parental permission for the vaccine, and if the parent refuses to give permission, the kid is not at fault. But even then, if the parent has refused, then gosh, too bad.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
4. Wish he would do more than just talk.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 01:28 PM
Sep 2021

Actually prioritize the needs of his own state residents over covidiots from Idaho.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
5. I wonder how much of that is out of his hands
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 01:37 PM
Sep 2021

I don't know - can a Washington hospital turn away a patient because they have COVID and are from Idaho? Can the governor order them to do so? I'm not sure what cover there is in laws or codes of ethics for refusal to treat such people (even though I'm 100% behind the sentiment that the voluntarily unvaccinated should stay home and drink ivermectin rather than running for salvation to a medical system whose counsel they chose to defy).

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
6. I'm not saying don't treat them.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 02:08 PM
Sep 2021

I'm saying treat cancer and heart patients from Washington State first. Make them the higher priority.

If he doesn't have any ability to effect policy, then I'm not sure what he accomplishes with complaining.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
11. But when the hospital is jammed...
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 02:38 PM
Sep 2021

it seems that prioritizing WA cancer and heart patients amounts to turning the covidiots away.

I agree that we should do that but I suspect there are laws and policies that complicate matters

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
9. I don't believe they can or will turn away patients unless their ER beds are full.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 02:16 PM
Sep 2021

The 77% capacity # is likely misleading; the Spokane-area hospitals are stuffed to the gills. More room in the Puget Sound hospitals, although we have our own Covid Surge to deal with, too, from rural counties like Yakima.

AnnaLee

(1,038 posts)
21. Make entire family vaccination a condition.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 03:32 PM
Sep 2021

Perhaps Inslee should require vaccination of the entire family of anyone seeking to use Washington State medical facilities.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
28. Seems hard to implement, when kids under 12 aren't allowed access to the vaccine.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 04:38 PM
Sep 2021

And how far back will that family search go? Really gonna slow things down if you need to confirm the entire family history, including the cousins you've maybe seen once in the past decade or two.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
23. Refuse to admit all willfully unvaccinated Idahoans if they have COVID-19 symptoms, Gov. Inslee.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 03:43 PM
Sep 2021

If they do have the symptoms, tell them to go back to Idaho.

patphil

(6,172 posts)
24. Idaho is one of 3 red states with less than 41% fully vaccinated.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 03:56 PM
Sep 2021

It's a failure of leadership by the Republican party in that state. Idaho is pretty much a rural state, but even with that and a population of around 1.7 million, they've had a 7 day moving average of new cases over 1000 for the last 2 weeks.

It's amazing how the power of the Republicans in Idaho, and most other red states, can be seen as a measure of the number of sick, and dying from Covid.
Callous disregard for the suffering of people is a hallmark of Republican leadership these days.
As I've said many times, this amounts to deliberate, premeditated murder.

DBoon

(22,363 posts)
32. Can Washington bill Idaho for this?
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:34 PM
Sep 2021

I assume some public funds are spent taking care of unvaccinated Idaho residents. Can Washington recover these?

Bucky

(54,003 posts)
35. Maybe they need to build a wall. Walls work, right?
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 03:26 AM
Sep 2021

Kidding. Part of what you get with the society is (1) people to help you with your problems when you get overwhelmed and (2) the responsibility of helping other people with their problems when they get overwhelmed.

It's too bad some people don't believe in society, even when they benefit from it.

I don't hate Idaho like some in this thread, but it needs to do better.

Bucky

(54,003 posts)
38. I love Governor Little's clap back at Governor Inslee 😆
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 03:34 AM
Sep 2021

He points out that Spokane also has low rate of vaccination.

Essentially his "counterpunch" is: "Hey, mister, there are people in the Republican part of your state that are being as stupid and irresponsible as we are."

Touché, sir

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