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Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 09:43 PM Sep 2021

"An Unprecedented Event In Modern Medicine": What Happens When A State Fails To Flatten The COVID...



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Jane Lytvynenko
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A clinic defaced with a swastika. Triage protocols on the verge of being called. Patients decrying doctors on their death bed. Family members threatening nurses with guns. Vaccination rates stagnant. This feels worse than the worst case scenario.

“An Unprecedented Event In Modern Medicine”: What Happens When A State Fails To Flatten The COVID...
A COVID nightmare is unfolding in Idaho, where overwhelmed hospitals are starting to ration care and medical workers feel like the public has turned on them.
buzzfeednews.com
4:04 PM · Sep 22, 2021


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/idaho-covid-crisis-standards-care

Ashley Carvalho was a few hours into her night shift as a doctor in a Boise, Idaho, hospital earlier this month when she got a text from her fiancé asking how she was doing.

She thought about the COVID-19 patient, a man in his 40s, whose condition had deteriorated within an hour of her starting work that night. She thought of the conversation she’d had to have with his young family about switching to comfort care and then his death soon after.

She thought about the second person with COVID who'd died shortly after that, as well as the other patients filling up all 14 beds in the intensive care unit — all with the same disease, all unvaccinated — who required her attention.

She thought of the abuse she’d received from one man’s angry family members, who had berated her for not treating him with ivermectin, a deworming drug falsely promoted as a cure in conspiracy circles but that the FDA has warned against using in COVID patients. She thought of how police had had to remove the man’s family after his son-in-law told her, “If you don’t do this, I have a lot of ways to get people to do something, and they’re all sitting in my gun safe at home.”

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"An Unprecedented Event In Modern Medicine": What Happens When A State Fails To Flatten The COVID... (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2021 OP
Wanna bet whether Mr Big-nutz son-in-law is being charged with Maru Kitteh Sep 2021 #1
family members get away with a lot of crap stopdiggin Sep 2021 #56
When I used to imagine the end of the word, the complete collapse of society, 70sEraVet Sep 2021 #2
Same... pazzyanne Sep 2021 #13
YEP! Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #40
This is the zombie apocalypse the movies warned about RainCaster Sep 2021 #51
This is quickly getting to be sick (and scary) beyond belief. Equomba Sep 2021 #3
Belated Delphinus Sep 2021 #30
Thanks for the welcome, Im enjoying being here! Equomba Sep 2021 #37
Put them in a tent and let them die. dalton99a Sep 2021 #4
It worked for Mother Theresa... NurseJackie Sep 2021 #41
Put them in a tent and give them horse paste. Texaswitchy Sep 2021 #5
Yea, put them in outside tents KS Toronado Sep 2021 #34
Yep. Texaswitchy Sep 2021 #38
Exactly! Deep State Witch Sep 2021 #52
Yes Texaswitchy Sep 2021 #53
What the fuck is wrong with these fucking people? Aviation Pro Sep 2021 #6
Where do I start? BigmanPigman Sep 2021 #9
I agree. It's mass insanity that's a threat to all of us. benfranklin1776 Sep 2021 #14
Social media brainwashing. Initech Sep 2021 #23
And twitter and instagram and youtube and tiktok and parler and gab and shit you've never heard of Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2021 #47
Sadly, this is punishing all of us in some way or another yellowdogintexas Sep 2021 #7
"Our national character is gone." Grins Sep 2021 #21
I agree. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #54
The suffering of others is the price of a virus-hugger's freedom. Efilroft Sul Sep 2021 #8
They revel in the death and misery. They have been scientifically programmed to do so. Celerity Sep 2021 #25
As the saying goes, the cruelty is the point. It's what they know and do best (or worst). Efilroft Sul Sep 2021 #26
Indeed, it's a feature, not a bug. It is far from new as well. Celerity Sep 2021 #28
maybe its time for medical personal to stop treating the unvaxxed rdking647 Sep 2021 #10
Worse yet.. raising2moredems Sep 2021 #11
Does this jerk think that he is the only one who owns a gun safe? colorado_ufo Sep 2021 #12
The night of my heart attack, prior to being medevacced, the nurse told me a stroke patient Solly Mack Sep 2021 #15
Curious. jeffreyi Sep 2021 #16
2000 a day dying from a disease with a free vaccine, available anywhere. Jon King Sep 2021 #17
Why do they go to the hospital??!!!! live love laugh Sep 2021 #18
Unvaccinated? Fuck you. Go home. Good luck. Asshole. OMGWTF Sep 2021 #19
We should be careful to say . . . HuskyOffset Sep 2021 #35
When a state fails. IronLionZion Sep 2021 #20
If they want ivermectin that badly, they should just stay home and take it. NH Ethylene Sep 2021 #22
Truth. Delphinus Sep 2021 #31
I am considering sharing this with my MAGA boss Saoirse9 Sep 2021 #24
Tell your boss I said Celerity Sep 2021 #27
! Hugin Sep 2021 #29
Now that's funny Saoirse9 Sep 2021 #32
Take him to a doctor who will treat him with imervectin. keithbvadu2 Sep 2021 #33
My bet is... jmowreader Sep 2021 #46
I can see having National Guard protection for every hosptial soon. ffr Sep 2021 #36
It will be the final zombie apocalypse FakeNoose Sep 2021 #45
If you're not going to believe the medical professionals wryter2000 Sep 2021 #39
Exactly! Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #55
I thought 2021 would be better. This is WAY worse than 2020 fescuerescue Sep 2021 #42
So did I MustLoveBeagles Sep 2021 #57
I call them plague rats. Texaswitchy Sep 2021 #43
+10000000000000000 Celerity Sep 2021 #44
I hear the Ivermectin treatment is more effective after it's been through the horse. lambchopp59 Sep 2021 #48
Triage you say? Triage the unvaxed to the end of the line. Next! . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2021 #49
She could tell them to take their loved one home and stop at the feedstore on the way world wide wally Sep 2021 #50

70sEraVet

(3,501 posts)
2. When I used to imagine the end of the word, the complete collapse of society,
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:02 PM
Sep 2021

I always envisioned a mushroom cloud. I never dreamed of a 'stupid cloud'!!

RainCaster

(10,874 posts)
51. This is the zombie apocalypse the movies warned about
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:10 PM
Sep 2021

The truly stupid are taking over, and demanding that we ignore our brains.

 

Equomba

(197 posts)
3. This is quickly getting to be sick (and scary) beyond belief.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:05 PM
Sep 2021

Just two minutes ago my sister emailed me a link to an article about THE VERY HOSPITAL HER SON-IN-LAW works in as a nurse. And since he is in Spokane, only 10 miles or so from the Idaho border, many of their patients are from there. He's a great guy, we're so proud to have him as a family member. No one should have to put up with this. No one.

The news team was allowed in the ICU, the video shows 6 professionals tending to one patient and what they have to go through to do so. My opinion? If not vaccinated, which as we know most aren't, there is a window REAL close to the bed. Toss them out.

I have nothing but utter contempt for the unvaccinated and what they are doing to us.

https://www.upworthy.com/inside-a-covid-19-icu

Delphinus

(11,830 posts)
30. Belated
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:50 AM
Sep 2021

welcome to DU!

I saw that video and posted it on both Facebook and Twitter because I think folks are forgetting what it takes for these medical professionals to do their job.

Idaho really makes me wonder if it's going to come down to straight up palliative care.

 

Equomba

(197 posts)
37. Thanks for the welcome, Im enjoying being here!
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 02:27 PM
Sep 2021

And I'm glad you were able to expose a few more folks to the video. It is obviously personal to me because it hits so close to home, but also it is interesting beyond that because I don't recall any similar coverage that actually takes place in an ICU. I understand this is pushing the boundaries on privacy, but at this point in time I don't care.

For some reason, I thought back to the aversion therapy scene in A Clockwork Orange, and wondered if an unvaccinated was forced to watch this if they would change their mind. Then I answered my own question, naw.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
41. It worked for Mother Theresa...
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 02:47 PM
Sep 2021

... and she was awarded a sainthood for it.

I'm all in favor of giving them a comfortable place to die in peace. Out of the rain and heat... away from flies and mosquitos.

A big circus tent in the middle of the county fairgrounds is plenty good.

KS Toronado

(17,235 posts)
34. Yea, put them in outside tents
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 12:46 PM
Sep 2021

and treat them only with what they believe works, Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, Clorox, UV lights up
their @ss, and whatever new cure Qanonsense comes up with. They've done their research and they're
smarter than Doctors, just ask them, so treat them only with what reQublicOns are promoting. The customer
is always right. Right? Save the care and medicine for those who didn't invite covid by being reckless.

Deep State Witch

(10,426 posts)
52. Exactly!
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:17 PM
Sep 2021

They want ivermectin, give them ivermectin. If they survive, great. If they go into liver failure, do not resuscitate.

benfranklin1776

(6,445 posts)
14. I agree. It's mass insanity that's a threat to all of us.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 11:19 PM
Sep 2021

It’s like Jonestown writ large except the innocent non-cult members are now being harmed. These “walking dead” are a menace to our society and our lives. The full weight of the criminal law needs to descend on those psychopaths threatening health care workers and these social media platforms that have made large sums of money by being a knowing vehicle for the dissemination of the vilest of lethal lies need stripped of their Section 230 immunity from suit. All of the sudden I am willing to bet they change their algorithms as it would no longer be profitable for them to make money off amplifying deadly delusions that are literally killing people and tearing apart our country.

Initech

(100,075 posts)
23. Social media brainwashing.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 12:39 AM
Sep 2021

The common denominator in all of these deaths is Facebook propaganda. When the dust is finally settled from this god forsaken pandemic, I'd love to see a Congressional investigation into how misinformation is spread on Facebook.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
47. And twitter and instagram and youtube and tiktok and parler and gab and shit you've never heard of
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 05:38 PM
Sep 2021

It ain't just Facebook, by any stretch.

yellowdogintexas

(22,252 posts)
7. Sadly, this is punishing all of us in some way or another
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:45 PM
Sep 2021

I have complaints but compared to this they are few and insignificant.

THis is another way this phase (?) of our civilization or lack thereof is destroying us.


Our national character is gone.

I have little opportunity to talk to anyone besides Mr YellowDog
NOt that he is a bad person to talk to - it is just that I miss my female friends, my Democratic groups, my sisters, our daughter & her family.

I need a trip to Phoenix but it isn't happening anytime soon. (daughter & her family)
A trip to Kentucky would boost my spirits in a big way (sister, visit from other sister, cousins etc. )




Celerity

(43,366 posts)
25. They revel in the death and misery. They have been scientifically programmed to do so.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:08 AM
Sep 2021

Mass psychosis via nonlinear warfare-delineated reflexive control.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
10. maybe its time for medical personal to stop treating the unvaxxed
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 10:56 PM
Sep 2021

just refuse. with staff so tight right now the hospitals cant realistically fire them
in the ice and unvaxxed? just walk away. its harsh but its gotten to that point.

raising2moredems

(638 posts)
11. Worse yet..
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 11:12 PM
Sep 2021

Flooding WA state hospitals. Were it not for federal rules (aka accept federal dollars), they could tell them nope, no room. But IMHO, stabilizing doesn't mean they bump a vaccinated person.

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
15. The night of my heart attack, prior to being medevacced, the nurse told me a stroke patient
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 11:24 PM
Sep 2021

was still waiting for a bed after 15 hours. He was still in the ER waiting for LERN to find him a bed at another hospital.

The ignorant and selfish anti-Covid-19 vaccine assholes are killing people.

In the process, they are causing medical workers extreme stress, which is causing many of them to quit. Which is making everything all the more worse.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
17. 2000 a day dying from a disease with a free vaccine, available anywhere.
Wed Sep 22, 2021, 11:55 PM
Sep 2021

If you wrote this as a movie plot, no one would buy it. Unreal how much effort it takes for this many to still be dying from Covid. Well done Fox News.

HuskyOffset

(889 posts)
35. We should be careful to say . . .
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 01:50 PM
Sep 2021

“unvaccinated by choice”, because I’m certain that’s what we mean, but it’s good to make that clear, as well as reminding people that the people we’re talking about are CHOOSING suffering & misery, both their own and others’.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
20. When a state fails.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 12:06 AM
Sep 2021

We have several failed states in these united states, all of them coincidentally happen to be controlled by Republicans.

NH Ethylene

(30,811 posts)
22. If they want ivermectin that badly, they should just stay home and take it.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 12:16 AM
Sep 2021

Why go to the hospital at all?

This is just ridiculous!

Saoirse9

(3,676 posts)
24. I am considering sharing this with my MAGA boss
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:41 AM
Sep 2021

Do you dare me? She was all full of outrage that “Biden took the monoclonal antibody treatment away from Florida”.

I explained that 7 states were using up 70% of the supply and the new distribution was more equitable across all states. I also explained that hospitals in states with low vaccination rates were having to triage and ration care. She didn’t really have anything to say.

I am frustrated by the attitude I get from her at times, knowing she gets her information only from Faux news.

Hugin

(33,144 posts)
29. !
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:38 AM
Sep 2021

*doink*

That GIF gets me every time. :heehee:

The fact it utilizes a device beyond the abilities of TFG. The cherry. No doubt.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
33. Take him to a doctor who will treat him with imervectin.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 12:40 PM
Sep 2021

Take him to a doctor who will treat him with imervectin.

Why do you take him to a place where you do not trust the medical professionals?

Why do you not do the right thing by him?

ffr

(22,670 posts)
36. I can see having National Guard protection for every hosptial soon.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 02:18 PM
Sep 2021

Because you have to believe that sooner or later one of these armed and brain damaged individuals or their families are going to storm a hospital to take an ICU bed from someone else and take hostages as well, in order to get their way.

Pb.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
48. I hear the Ivermectin treatment is more effective after it's been through the horse.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:08 PM
Sep 2021

Bon appetit, Trumpers:

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