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struggle4progress

(118,224 posts)
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 01:18 AM Sep 2021

Proudly anti-vax mother of four dies of COVID

A California mother of four who was “proudly” anti-vax, particularly anti-COVID-19 vaccine, died of complications due to the coronavirus.

Kristen Lowery, 40, was a figurehead on social media, proclaiming her anti-mask and vaccine views that garnered high praise. She died on Sept. 15, her aunt said ...

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-coronavirus-vaccine-antivax-mother-death-20210923-joivkjffgfbq5gqxi7d7cyaxne-story.html

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Proudly anti-vax mother of four dies of COVID (Original Post) struggle4progress Sep 2021 OP
Is it possible to be proudly dead? Ocelot II Sep 2021 #1
I'm beginning to wonder... LeftInTX Sep 2021 #29
I think she is. live love laugh Sep 2021 #36
you can be not just merely, but really most sincerely dead. maxsolomon Sep 2021 #43
And not merely pinin' for the fjords. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #44
My condolences to her family on the loss of their mother. Sinistrous Sep 2021 #2
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. roamer65 Sep 2021 #3
I wonder how many people she proudly passed the virus on to Skittles Sep 2021 #4
Wished she love her kids, Corgigal Sep 2021 #5
She Didn't "Own" Me, But She Did Own Her Kids SoCalDavidS Sep 2021 #6
The ages of the people in the Delta batch... Hugin Sep 2021 #7
"...ALWAYS put her children first" - sorry, no. elias7 Sep 2021 #8
Thank you Delphinus Sep 2021 #23
"Proclaiming her anti-mask and vaccine views that garnered high praise..." smirkymonkey Sep 2021 #9
I'm out of tots and pears. Sayonara! secondwind Sep 2021 #10
What a fool. She gave up her life for nothing. Demsrule86 Sep 2021 #11
Unfortunately I know a handful of women like this Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #12
I think it is deliberate psy-ops. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #14
It's both psy-ops and profit motive. yardwork Sep 2021 #15
Yes the psy-ops goes hand in hand with political and corporate corruption. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #17
I agree, and they're being employed by large corporations and political operatives. yardwork Sep 2021 #18
I think the end goals are money and power. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #19
I think you both are exactly right Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #42
Yes it is depressing to think that ruthless sociopaths are destroying our country for political gain Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #45
It's working Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #41
If you or a loved one is thinking about suicide... Ohio Joe Sep 2021 #13
Sadly, natural selection at work Deminpenn Sep 2021 #16
Pithy. tanyev Sep 2021 #20
Was she proud to be dying anti-vax? ck4829 Sep 2021 #21
Zero sympathy Johnny2X2X Sep 2021 #22
NOT true. If you are anti-vaccine for yourself, you are harming others too. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #25
Agree Johnny2X2X Sep 2021 #26
I agree about militant antivaxxers being worse, but the assumption you mention... lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #28
There should be a rule that the accounts of these people get replaced with a big message, lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #24
I wonder how old her kids are? I doubt they would all be grown. Ilsa Sep 2021 #27
Probably young and now motherless. She was NOT A GOOD MOM. winstars Sep 2021 #31
Oh wells. Wingus Dingus Sep 2021 #30
Proudly rotting and smelling: dalton99a Sep 2021 #32
One less Texaswitchy Sep 2021 #33
Way to go, lady. You just orphaned your kids. Aristus Sep 2021 #34
Probably took up needed medical equipment and personnel. kairos12 Sep 2021 #35
I hope someday her family understands Mosby Sep 2021 #37
Rosanna Arquette: I'd rather be vaccinated than ventilated ffr Sep 2021 #38
She lived in my area eissa Sep 2021 #39
Sweet! bif Sep 2021 #40
What a loving legacy she leaves for her children. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #46
""So many people need her here, but God must have special plans for her in heaven." NurseJackie Sep 2021 #47
I just tested negative for sympathy. Swede Sep 2021 #48
Bye bye FakeNoose Sep 2021 #49

Skittles

(153,111 posts)
4. I wonder how many people she proudly passed the virus on to
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 01:52 AM
Sep 2021

selfish asshole, who did NOT "put her children first" when she decided to practice and spread her fucking BULLSHIT

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
6. She Didn't "Own" Me, But She Did Own Her Kids
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 01:56 AM
Sep 2021

I wonder if they'll ever realize the truth of how utterly irresponsible their mother was.

elias7

(3,991 posts)
8. "...ALWAYS put her children first" - sorry, no.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 05:00 AM
Sep 2021

In a GoFundMe that’s hoping to raise money for her final expenses, Lowery is described as a “beautiful and amazing woman but more than that she was phenomenal mother who always, ALWAYS put her children first.”

The mother who vaxxed against her personal desire would have put her children first. This lady was selfish.

Delphinus

(11,825 posts)
23. Thank you
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:20 AM
Sep 2021

That was exactly what I said when reading the story. I hope they recognize that at some point.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. "Proclaiming her anti-mask and vaccine views that garnered high praise..."
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 05:17 AM
Sep 2021

What a foolish person. What a shame.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
12. Unfortunately I know a handful of women like this
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 05:51 AM
Sep 2021

People who I grew up with and cared about. I've moved away from my hometown, but still am connected via social media, and they share pictures with the same exact thing. "Unmasked, Unmuzzled, Unvaccinated, Unafraid." It's perplexing to me bc when they post something slightly anti-vaxx they get a lot of engagement (most of it supported and some of it from other people I knew and cared about. People who surprise me).

I spent a lot of time trying to figure out how I felt about all of this because these people aren't evil awful people. They're brainwashed by SOMETHING. And not all of them are Fox watching Republicans. Some of them are hippie adjacent. Like Deadhead types that have grown up and are yoga practicing hippies.

Which brings me back to facebook targeted algorithms. Groups of people encouraging others. One of them wrote an anti-sunscreen screed this past summer, and I was so confused. Like she literally has two kids, spends every day of the summer at the beach, and doesn't put sunscreen on them bc it's toxic. And she shared some nonsense articles.

So the wellness community has been taken over by complete nutbaggery. (Maybe it was always like that, but it has larger stakes now. It's actively trying to kill people.) Makes me so angry,

Sorry, this is longer than I intended, but the toxicity of the intersection of MAGA, Q and the Wellness communities seems like one big giant PSY-OPS experiment.

Irish_Dem

(46,492 posts)
14. I think it is deliberate psy-ops.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:09 AM
Sep 2021

The GOP and Russia both want chaos, division, hatred spread far and wide across the US.

yardwork

(61,538 posts)
15. It's both psy-ops and profit motive.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:22 AM
Sep 2021

FaceBook, YouTube, and other platforms deliberately entice people to click on ever-increasing extremist content. This is done to sell advertising.

You can watch it happen. Go to your YouTube feed and click on something political. Watch your feed offer you even more content - a little more extreme. Click on those offerings and your YouTube feed will blow up with ever more extreme offerings. It's a marketing ploy meant to draw you in. It's literally addictive.

And yes, whose offering the extreme, conspiracy-laden content? People with an agenda. They're selling clicks too, or they're working for a campaign without disclosing it, or their goal is to create chaos.

Irish_Dem

(46,492 posts)
17. Yes the psy-ops goes hand in hand with political and corporate corruption.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:28 AM
Sep 2021

Yes you are describing an addictive process, exactly.

People with training in propaganda techniques are heading up this operation.

yardwork

(61,538 posts)
18. I agree, and they're being employed by large corporations and political operatives.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:40 AM
Sep 2021

The fundamental root cause is greed. It's destroying democracy.

Irish_Dem

(46,492 posts)
19. I think the end goals are money and power.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:44 AM
Sep 2021

Sociopaths who have an insatiable need for wealth and control are behind this.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
42. I think you both are exactly right
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 02:02 PM
Sep 2021

and it's really really depressing.

My you tube feed is all slime videos. (Having a ten year old child who isn't radicalized is ACES!)

Irish_Dem

(46,492 posts)
45. Yes it is depressing to think that ruthless sociopaths are destroying our country for political gain
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 02:54 PM
Sep 2021

And for huge financial profit.

I know, I watch a lot of Amazon Prime escape TV and movies.

Ohio Joe

(21,726 posts)
13. If you or a loved one is thinking about suicide...
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:16 AM
Sep 2021

Please call the suicide prevention hotline - 800-273-8255

If you are thinking about suicide by covid... Go get the fucking vaccine... Sheesh.

Johnny2X2X

(18,969 posts)
22. Zero sympathy
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:16 AM
Sep 2021

Not because she was anti vaccine, but because she was militant anti vaccine who spread misinformation that likely got others sick or killed.

Hey, if you're anti vaccine for yourself, it's stupid and misinformed, but it only effects you. That's one thing. It's a totally different thing if you're out there spreading lies and misinformation publicly that is getting others sick and dead.

Just once, when one of these high profile people die, I'd like to hear their family apologize to the public for all the harm their dead family member caused. Kristen Lowery left behind 4 of her own children, but she also made sure to do as much as she could to make sure other families lost loved ones too, that's her legacy.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. NOT true. If you are anti-vaccine for yourself, you are harming others too.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:27 AM
Sep 2021

If you catch COVID (even asymptomatic), you will spread it to others. Most of these shitheads are also anti-maskers.

Johnny2X2X

(18,969 posts)
26. Agree
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:31 AM
Sep 2021

But there's a big difference between being quietly anti vax and militant like this woman was. Assuming that a normal antivaxxer would quarantine and act responsibly if they were exposed to or contracted Covid. That person is misinformed and hurting the country's effort to get out of this. But they are a far cry from someone like Lowery who did everything she could to make sure as many people died as possible.

Just differentiating, there are levels to this, Lowery caused more harm to others because of how outspoken she was in spreading dangerous lies.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
28. I agree about militant antivaxxers being worse, but the assumption you mention...
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:05 AM
Sep 2021

"a normal antivaxxer would quarantine and act responsibly"


Ummm, NO. These people don't compartmentalize their idiocy. They don't vax, they don't social distance, they don't mask, they don't quarantine.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
24. There should be a rule that the accounts of these people get replaced with a big message,
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:25 AM
Sep 2021

which describes how and why they died, so their idiot followers can see it. I suspect in most of these cases, the "influencer" just disappears and is forgotten in a day or two.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
27. I wonder how old her kids are? I doubt they would all be grown.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:57 AM
Sep 2021

I can't imagine how the next few years will be for them.

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
34. Way to go, lady. You just orphaned your kids.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 12:07 PM
Sep 2021

That means your chances of being awarded "Mother of the Year" are very iffy...

Mosby

(16,259 posts)
37. I hope someday her family understands
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 12:29 PM
Sep 2021

That she didn't put her family first, she put herself and her politics first, and that's why they don't have their mom anymore.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
39. She lived in my area
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 12:50 PM
Sep 2021

Very vocal in the comments section on our local paper's FB page. We live in a purple district, so you'd think conservative politicians would make more of an effort to keep their base alive.

bif

(22,685 posts)
40. Sweet!
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 12:54 PM
Sep 2021

I hate to say it, but I have absolutely no sympathy for people like her. Strengthen the gene pool baby!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
47. ""So many people need her here, but God must have special plans for her in heaven."
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 02:58 PM
Sep 2021
“So many people need her here, but God must have special plans for her in heaven...
Why do they always assume that people like this are going to end up in Heaven?

Ignore my atheism for a moment... but isn't it more likely (considering the damage she's done and other deaths she's likely contributed to) that someone like this will end up sitting at Lucifer's side?
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