Our Unvaccinated - The Most Selfish Uncaring Scum In America's History

[DanieRains]

"Their" freedom is killing thousands of innocent people.

From children, to people who need hospital care or an ambulance, or treatment, and can't get one.

Plus the suffering they are causing because elective surgery can't be performed because the hospitals are full.

These people are scum, and should be treated like scum.

Take the gloves off.

Asking nice isn't working.

Also we can sue them for the trouble they cause others, and should.

[Skittles]

1. Hillary was right

these folk are fucking DEPLORABLE

[liberal_mama]

16. Hillary found the absolute perfect word to describe these people when she called them Deplorables.

Such an accurate description.

[roamer65]

2. Utterly Anti-American fascist scumbags.

They are doing Putin’s bidding and trying to destroy the United States.

[cadoman]

3. the gloves are coming off in Australia, we'll have our mandate soon

Australia and Canada go first. Their people are more ready to receive and appreciate the blessing of the mandate.

The US most go last because we have too many racist, anti-science degenerates. Time is needed to get the logistics in place to handle them.

Don't let the unvaxxed upset you. Just smile and record their name and address. You will eventually be able to turn them in and no more un-vaxxed to deal with.

[roamer65]

6. The virus is going to soften their resistance over the winter.

When swathes of them remove themselves from the gene pool. It’s gonna scare the living shit outta the remainders.

Fact is, I won’t miss them one bit.

Good riddance.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. Turn them in? For a $10,000 bounty? On horseback run them down with whips?

[TexasTowelie]

4. I doubt that suing the unvaccinated is a strategy that will work.

To begin with, the courts are backlogged because they were shut down for over a year. The backlog of cases will need to be resolved first.

Also, the legalities of COVID have barely been touched upon. However, once the first case is settled adversely against the anti-vaxxed it will set a whole round of appeals.

In addition, there will be the burden of proof that a specific person is responsible for someone else's infection. That will be difficult and we should be mindful that vaccinated people still remain as a vector to spread the virus, although I believe that they are less likely to be contagious than an unvaccinated person.

Finally, there is a large faction (probably including a few Democrats) along with those in the insurance industry that want to give businesses immunity from virus-related claims. If that does happen, then the lawsuits for individual people would also be curtailed.

My prediction is that if any lawsuits proceed to the Supreme Court, the SC will declare COVID as an "act of God" and all litigation involving COVID will be moot.

And yes, I'm fed up with the unvaccinated too. My brother is anti-vax and has been spewing outlandishly wrong information such as that it is unconstitutional, the vaccination kills people, and that a coworker's child became infected by vaccinated people even though the child is around other unvaccinated children and about a third of those children have parents that also refuse to be vaccinated.

[DanieRains]

5. Sue Every Unvaccinated Person In The Hospital

If you suffer because they have all the beds.

[TexasTowelie]

7. I doubt that you will find an attorney that is willing to take the case.

Attorneys don't want to be sanctioned for filing frivolous motions. It isn't like hospitals release a list of their current patients, yet alone provide information why they have been admitted, or their vaccination status. I'm not an attorney, but I suspect that there are plenty of HIPAA violations and the hospital would refuse to release the information. So you are not only going to have to sue the unvaccinated patients, but you will also have to sue the hospital too. That takes money and the likelihood of even getting a settlement is slim.

Finally, do you think that any attorney would want to negotiate settlement agreements with possibly hundreds of people that you want to include your lawsuit? Particularly, if all they can get from some people would be a nominal amount like $300. It simply isn't worth the time for a lawyer to get involved on a case that would require so much discovery and without any idea that a verdict would be favorable.

The whole notion is a no go in my opinion. I guess that someone could attempt to file the cases without a lawyer if they can come up with the separate filing fees for each case that they take to court, but all the considerations in the first paragraph still apply.

BTW, there are also plenty of legal cases where juries refuse to award damages for pain and suffering. If that was the basis for a claim here in Texas then the case would probably be dismissed if there is not any documented economic loss.

[d_r]

11. There are definitely cases

Where there are damages caused due to a specific individual. For example, a student causes others to be put on quarantine. Those I'm quarentine suffer damages like loss of work and so on for that period. I am not talking about costs from being sick, I am talking about costs that were caused by the quarantine that was caused by that individual.

[TexasTowelie]

15. Let me make certain that I'm understanding you correctly,

my brother has a colleague whose daughter was hospitalized for COVID, so you believe everyone else that walks into her classroom at school should sue his daughter (and the parents) because of a quarantine? My brother's colleague and his wife are both vaccinated while the daughter was unvaccinated due to her age. How do you believe a judge (or jury) is going to react when the courtroom is full of lawsuits with students (and their parents) suing other students (and their parents)? It seems like you are ready to kick somebody when they are already undergoing plenty of turmoil which seems cruel and heartless. In this specific case, the girl had to be life-flighted to a hospital more than 100 miles away for treatment so I'm certain that the parents are worried.

First, quarantining a school or a classroom of students does not result in any economic damages, except to the school employees paid on an hourly basis. Students do not have any current economic value if they do not earn any income. They do have potential economic value. How do you place a value on how missing two weeks of school will affect potential income several years in the future?

As for the individuals that lost wages due to a quarantine, even though they have the right to sue, it would probably be viewed negatively by the school administrators. So while that person might get two weeks of wages reimbursed, they might also find themselves in the unemployment line at the end of the school year. Is it worth filing a lawsuit to recover $1,500 in wages when a job paying $40,000 a year is at stake? What lawyer will be willing to represent a client when the potential court award is paltry? Besides, the person that suffered a tangible and immediate economic loss did not have their salary reduced by the sick student. The loss of a paycheck is a result of the actions of the school district rather than a sick individual--that means the lawsuit is being filed against the wrong party to begin with.

You are also conflating what is happening at a hospital and what is happening in a classroom which wasn't even mentioned in the OP.

Let's face it, everyone has suffered because of COVID. I had my right foot amputated because someone in the indigent care program dropped the ball repeatedly and I may have only lost one or two toes instead if that hadn't occurred. I can't sue indigent care because they can claim governmental immunity and even if they did not have immunity, I live in a conservative county so the chances of getting a favorable verdict are not likely. The case would never generate enough revenue for a law firm to take me as a client.

So while everybody is getting litigious, the only ones that are going to make any money are the lawyers for hospitals and schools since they can afford to hire attorneys that aren't paid on a contingency basis to defend themselves against claims. Those costs are then passed down to the taxpayers and to patients in hospitals.

I wish that people weren't so "sue happy" and kept things in perspective. While I believe that fines might be necessary to enforce a quarantine, fining someone who caught COVID that resulted in a quarantine while all reasonable precautions were taken seems unreasonable.

[d_r]

17. well, my point was to give an example of a transmission that could be tracked

TT, I know it is isn't your intention but I feel like the goal posts moved here. I thought that I was responding to the idea that it would be impossible to track to a given case. The example in my mind was my state, where it is required that parents may "opt out" children from wearing masks. At my children's school, this has resulted in the entire school being shut down twice, for two days each, and has resulted in many students being quarantined. In my view, the costs of that time in quarantine is lost wages and opportunities to the parents, not the students.

I think that eventually some one more litigious than I am will pursue a lawsuit.

For what its worth, in this school year, in my county we have had two high schoolers die from covid. In my state I believe there have been four that I have heard of. I have had a college student whose father died, and a middle schooler whose grand mother died. In your scenario, I would say that the child was a victim. Also if we want to continue swapping stories - and I really don't, TT, we can talk about my mother who needed in-home caregivers and passed away Jan. 2.

[TexasTowelie]

18. My apologies.

I was having an argument with my brother when I wrote that post and the tone my reply reflected my anger. I shouldn't have taken it out on you.

I'm sorry that your children have been involved with a quarantine and hope that the school district can at least provide remote learning. I also am sorry for those around you that were affected and I offer my condolences for your mother.

I don't have any children, but I believe that the situation concerning quarantines is similar to what I read in local newspapers,

Yesterday offered mixed news on COVID. The good news is that my brother (the unvaccinated respiratory therapist) had a negative result on his test. Considering the amount of interaction he has had with infected patients and his lackadaisical attitude towards hygiene it is a miracle. The bad news is that the number of infections set a new record on Tuesday in Brazos County because people stopped taking reasonable precautions.

[d_r]

19. No I apologize

I didnt mean to exacerbate what's going on. as you said, it has touched us all. It is frustrating and demoralizing.

[TexasTowelie]

20. Peace be with you.

At least we are both cognizant that other people are suffering. Some people are either clueless or just don't care about others.

[samnsara]

14. y know thats not a bad idea..a bounty on the unvaxxed like texas has on women

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. I would add "weak" too. Vax is too "risky" they say, mask a burden, staying home unbearable. . nt

[viva la]

10. Some are orphaning their own children

No medical insurance, no life insurance, no vaccine. It's like they live in the time of the Black Death but stubbornly refuse to believe in the plague. And they leave four, five, six kids.

[samnsara]

12. they are basically awol in this war against the virus and should be treated as such

...im waiting for my neighbors ..un vaxxed and non voting (but will display anti blah blah signs) to infect one of their very cute grandkids ( including 2 yr old triplet girls).

[bullwinkle428]

13. If these people dominated American society in 1941, we would have lost

World War II in 15 minutes.

[Bucky]

21. They're idiots, but definitely not the *MOST* selfish uncaring in US history

On a per capita basis, slavery killed and otherwise harmed more Americans. Violating every single one of the 350+ treaties with American Indian tribes all but killed off whole societies.

Sorry, I'm feeling the need to be the hyperbole police tonight.

[madville]

22. I wish they would work harder on Black and Hispanic vaccination outreach

These are the least vaccinated groups in the US, current data is only 45% of Black people are vaccinated and 49% of Hispanic people, that's over 60 million unvaccinated right there. I don't think we want to label such a large block of mostly Democratic voters scum.

[mnmoderatedem]

23. as I have said to my unvaccinated friends

you carry on as you're smarter than everyone else.

You're just more selfish than everyone else