Should AG Garland appoint a Special Counsel with a team of investigators....?

[kentuck]

Not for the Insurrection of January 6th, but for the attempted overthrow of an election and the recent 6-point document out-lining how they were going to do it?

Does this not merit an investigation?

The plate of the Select Committee is already full.

[OLDMDDEM]

1. Yes. nt.

[gab13by13]

3. Yeah, a special counsel will most likely not be finished

until after the 2022 elections.

[StarfishSaver]

10. Information sufficient for a news story is not evidence sufficient for charges and a trial

Anonymous sources and hearsay are fine for news stories. Prosecutors need much more than that.

[StarfishSaver]

17. Actually, you were claiming it was

That's why you "chimed in" - of course, because why pass up another opportunity to impugn President Biden's Justice Department for not moving as quickly as you think they should since, after all, journalists have uncovered plenty of evidence so what's taking DOJ so long?

[StarfishSaver]

19. I knew exactly what you meant, as did you

That's why I responded.

And whether you like it or not (and you clearly don't), I will continue respond or not respond to threads and posts about topics I'm interested in.

I don't put people on Ignore, but you are always free to ignore me - either via technology or just by not reading or responding to what I post - if you find my posts comments so unsettling.

[StarfishSaver]

25. Thank you for your advice on how you think I should conduct .myself on this boars

I will give it the consideration it merits.

[lagomorph777]

4. The coup attempt is multi-pronged: the violent part and the political part.

If DOJ were to conduct a real investigation, they should investigate all parts of the plot simultaneously. The same actors will be found to be leading all aspects.

[gab13by13]

5. I agree with you,

our DOJ should be investigating but Kentuck is asking for something different, a special counsel. Can't Christopher Wray have the FBI investigate without an order from Merrick Garland?

[lagomorph777]

8. Wray is a Republican. He needs to be replaced along with Garland.

[Elessar Zappa]

9. Biden won't replace either.

FBI directors typically stay in ten years unless they do something that justifies termination. And Garland certainly won’t be replaced unless he, like Wray, does something egregious enough to get fired.

[lagomorph777]

13. Sadly, I agree.

This is so scary.

[StarfishSaver]

20. The FBI is the investigatatory arm of DOJ

If DOJ is conducting an investigation - which they no doubt are - the FBI is already involved.

[malaise]

11. I expect that to happen

in due course

[kentuck]

12. This seems like something only the DOJ should investigate...

Not any state authorities. This is a Federal matter. An investigation is not a prosecution, as Benghazi proved to everyone.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

15. "the attempted overthrow of an election and the recent 6-point document out-lining"

I'm curious as to what laws you think apply/make any of this illegal, esp. for a sitting President to do?

We already tried impeachment, it failed.

There's never going to be an investigation into Trump's attempted coup other than the 1/6 investigation.

And that's because nobody has ever passed laws against doing anything Trump tried to do.

IQ45 very much exposed that WAY too much of our system of government depends on people acting with Honor, and there's not really 'laws' restraining a POTUS from acting with complete dishonor.

Better questions at this point are ... is anyone going to do anything about these shortcomings? Is it even possible, legally? If so, how?

[kentuck]

16. Perhaps that should be part of the investigation?

The shortcomings within our present legal system?

Of course, an investigation is not a conviction and a conviction is not required to begin an investigation.

[StarfishSaver]

21. The Justice Department doesn't have the jurisdiction to investigate that kind of thing

That's a role for Congress as part of their legislative authority.

[kentuck]

22. The DOJ doesn't investigate?

They just prosecute?

[StarfishSaver]

23. No, they investigate as part of the executive branch's enforcement responsibility

But they don't do oversight investigations for the purpose of determining the efficacy of laws. Oversight is in Congress' jurisdiction as part of their lawmaking responsibility.

DOJ can assist Congress in this by giving them information about their investigations, can advise them about how the laws impact their enforcement, and recommend changes but they don't investigate laws in order to determine whether or not they are effective or to identify shortcomings in the legal system.

I hope that makes sense.