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Girard442

(6,070 posts)
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:30 AM Sep 2021

We are at war. Let's act like it.

Right now, the antivaxxers are suicidal human wave attackers in the Republicans' drive to sabotage the Biden presidency. We need to pull out all the stops to shut them down. I think the steps taken so far are good, but we need to go bigger. Biden should, through executive order, declare that all Federal buildings are off-limits to the unvaxxed. Yes, that would include post offices.

Biden should institute a vaccine passport program at least as sturdily managed as actual passports. The right will scream. Let 'em scream.

Nobody gets on a plane without a shot. If the unvaxxed need to fly out to the coast, Let 'em take a f****ing hang-glider.

The Justice Department should create a task force to determine which laws, civil or criminal, are applicable to people who have mass gatherings where countermeasures are not taken. Then use them. It would be good if, right out of the gate, a couple of high-profile violators got some actual hard time. That would get people's attention.

Same thing about media operations that spread anti-vax lies. There has got to be a way.

There should be a move to indemnify health care institutions that put in place triage programs that would help assure care to people with non-COVID needs.

There's got to be lots more. The key is to wake up and realize that business as usual is gone.

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mrsadm

(1,198 posts)
2. I agree with you
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:37 AM
Sep 2021

but for some reason, we are afraid to be tough. I'm not sure why. Hundreds of thousands have died from covid and yet we are afraid of offending the ignorant.

brooklynite

(94,534 posts)
3. "Biden should, through executive order, declare that all Federal buildings are off-limits"
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:46 AM
Sep 2021

He can't. An executive order only applies to the Executive Branch.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
5. Interesting that. I don't know, but I'm guessing that some branch of the executive...
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:59 AM
Sep 2021

...administers the actual buildings. Possibilities there.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
8. Our side isn't taking the threat seriously enough.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:20 AM
Sep 2021

We're still trying to work with people who have shown us who they are.

sarisataka

(18,636 posts)
9. You do realize EOs
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:26 AM
Sep 2021

Are not equivalent to dictatorial powers. What a President may do is spelled out in law.

Kaleva

(36,298 posts)
10. You are saying others should act like this is war while we do nothing
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 11:25 AM
Sep 2021

I don't think there's a single DUer that can do any of what you listed.

What DUers can do is cut off non-work or non-emergency related contact with all adult family and friends who aren't vaccinated.

One can also protest in front of local establishments who don't require their employees to be vaccinated.

Stuff like that.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
11. The GQP is deliberately forcing Biden to be more draconian.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 12:02 PM
Sep 2021

So they can campaign on "Liberty" in '22. They thrive on ginned-up conflict.

It might work, too. People are getting very very tired of masking, and in many parts of America, lax.

Deaths in overwhelmed hospitals are out of sight, out of mind.



Irish_Dem

(47,030 posts)
12. There has to be a way to fight back. The GOP is at war with the US and the Dems.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 12:03 PM
Sep 2021

We cannot just sit back and watch our democracy go down the drain.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
14. Agreed! Time to go nuclear on these morons!
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 01:32 PM
Sep 2021

If they won't get the vaccine, end of the line. No hospital treatment, no being allowed anywhere in public. If they choose to believe the social media bullshit over facts and science, then they should stay home. No more playing nice. COVID don't care if you have a good immune system or not.

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