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TheProle

(2,149 posts)
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 06:17 PM Sep 2021

Vaccine Mandates Put Black Lives Matter Activists on Collision Course With Democrats

Black people are less likely to be vaccinated against COVID-19, even though the pandemic has taken a disproportionate toll on them. Racial breakdowns of vaccination data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show Black Americans are lagging far behind other groups with only around 30 percent fully vaccinated.

This means vaccine requirements disproportionately impact the Black community, Hawk Newsome, the co-founder of Black Lives Matter Greater New York told Newsweek. His group is not affiliated with the Black Lives Matter Global Network.

Newsome, who organized a protest outside Carmine's earlier this week, pointed to recent data showing that less than half of the city's Black residents between the ages of 18 and 44 are vaccinated. "That means that you're excluding a tremendous amount of Black New Yorkers, from engaging in everyday actions," he said.

https://www.newsweek.com/vaccine-mandates-black-lives-matter-activists-collision-course-democrats-1631612

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Vaccine Mandates Put Black Lives Matter Activists on Collision Course With Democrats (Original Post) TheProle Sep 2021 OP
not vaccinated? well there's an easy fix for that, get vaccinated nt- msongs Sep 2021 #1
Only 30 percent are vaccinated. That is scary low. jimfields33 Sep 2021 #8
never gets old. No matter what the topic stillcool Sep 2021 #9
Its available in virtually every pharmacy MichMan Sep 2021 #10
Don't believe it. It's designed to scare you. Black people are... brush Sep 2021 #19
+ 100 I agree. abqtommy Sep 2021 #13
Not true. Black people are vaccinated at higher rates that whites. brush Sep 2021 #18
A single opinion poll Zeitghost Sep 2021 #22
Vaccination hesitancy in the Black community is over-hyped. brush Sep 2021 #23
Oh want a bowl full of crap . . . Lovie777 Sep 2021 #2
this part of the article is madness (Hawk Newsome faces up like a Rethug plant) Celerity Sep 2021 #3
Yep, I believe you are correct! winstars Sep 2021 #5
Never heard of him, but yeah he sounds like those Demxit idiots. rogue emissary Sep 2021 #6
Wow, just a little bit of research Kingofalldems Sep 2021 #4
So get vaccinated. Scrivener7 Sep 2021 #7
Republican mantra: what about black people? stillcool Sep 2021 #11
Given all that, do you agree with having vaccine mandates or do you think they are discriminatory? MichMan Sep 2021 #12
Vaccine mandates for other diseases are NOT discriminatory wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #15
I agree with vaxx mandates. I don't think supporting saving someone's life is abqtommy Sep 2021 #16
I absolutely agree with having vaccine mandates... stillcool Sep 2021 #27
I'm Black, and the BLM-NY guy is full of shit wellst0nev0ter Sep 2021 #14
You don't know what you're talking about. Take these lies down. brush Sep 2021 #17
If the data in the story is demonstrably false TheProle Sep 2021 #20
And what proof do you have your info is accurate? brush Sep 2021 #21
I posted an article from a reputable news service TheProle Sep 2021 #25
Think. Of all the videos and protests against vaccines and masks... brush Sep 2021 #26
Their lives do matter Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #24

jimfields33

(15,669 posts)
8. Only 30 percent are vaccinated. That is scary low.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 06:47 PM
Sep 2021

It would take a huge effort to ensure everyone is vaccinated. I think that should be the focus. It’s important!

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
9. never gets old. No matter what the topic
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 06:59 PM
Sep 2021

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/04/what-about-black-people-defense-republican-vaccine-hesitancy/
The ‘what about Black people’ defense of Republican vaccine hesitancy

In New York City, we see a similar overlap of resources (or at least income), race and vaccinations. Zip codes with lower average incomes have lower vaccination rates — and more non-White residents.

In other words, the reasons that low vaccination rates among Black Americans are not somehow a counterpoint to low vaccination rates among Republicans are as follows:

Black people are much less likely than Republicans to say that they refuse to be vaccinated.
There are about four times as many Republicans as Black people in the ranks of the unvaccinated and a slightly higher proportion of Republicans among those who say they won’t get vaccinated.
Vaccination rates among Black Americans also reflect structural problems that often overlap with income.
Oh, also? Trying to rebut a largely partisan opposition to vaccination by blaming a historically disadvantaged group as the real problem without actually exhibiting any curiosity about the distinctions is not a real testament to intellectual rigor.




Zeitghost

(3,844 posts)
22. A single opinion poll
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:38 PM
Sep 2021

Does not trump well researched studies and BLM activists are not pushing Republican talking points.

There are reasons for vaccine hesitancy in the black community and we should be focusing on addressing those issues.

brush

(53,726 posts)
23. Vaccination hesitancy in the Black community is over-hyped.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:40 PM
Sep 2021

And many want to believe it. White, male evangelicals are the ones with the lowest vaxx rates.

Celerity

(43,064 posts)
3. this part of the article is madness (Hawk Newsome faces up like a Rethug plant)
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 06:30 PM
Sep 2021
The president "made a lot of promises to us around all the Black Lives Matter movement, but he hasn't taken any substantial steps on that front," Newsome said, and pointed to the mistreatment of Haitian migrants at the border.

"Black people are realizing that Democrats are almost as bad as the Republicans when it comes to their treatment of Black people," he said. "It's a very sobering feeling." But he added: "We're fully aware that Republicans only care about Black issues when it impacts them. They were pro-police when there was BLM protests, anti-police when they stormed the Capitol on January 6."

And while he disavowed any comparison between vaccine mandates and Nazi Germany or slavery, he believes they would be used "to make Black people second-class citizens."

Forcing Black Americans to make a decision to take the vaccine or lose their job is "completely unfair... because as a Black person, I do not trust the government," he said. "The largest numbers of unvaccinated people are Black. We will truly feel the penalty of not complying." Newsome said he would not get the COVID-19 vaccine until he can trust it is safe. "I think each individual has their own threshold," he said. "I'll know mine when I reach it."


wtf



surprise surprise

look at the type of show he goes on



rogue emissary

(3,147 posts)
6. Never heard of him, but yeah he sounds like those Demxit idiots.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 06:36 PM
Sep 2021

Also, lying about Biden's administration has done nothing in BLM. Is a dead give away that he probably didn't even for for Democrats.

The black people don't trust the government argument doesn't make since. The government didn't develop any of the three vaccines. They were all private development.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
11. Republican mantra: what about black people?
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:05 PM
Sep 2021

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/04/what-about-black-people-defense-republican-vaccine-hesitancy/
The ‘what about Black people’ defense of Republican vaccine hesitancy

In New York City, we see a similar overlap of resources (or at least income), race and vaccinations. Zip codes with lower average incomes have lower vaccination rates — and more non-White residents.

In other words, the reasons that low vaccination rates among Black Americans are not somehow a counterpoint to low vaccination rates among Republicans are as follows:

Black people are much less likely than Republicans to say that they refuse to be vaccinated.
There are about four times as many Republicans as Black people in the ranks of the unvaccinated and a slightly higher proportion of Republicans among those who say they won’t get vaccinated.
Vaccination rates among Black Americans also reflect structural problems that often overlap with income.
Oh, also? Trying to rebut a largely partisan opposition to vaccination by blaming a historically disadvantaged group as the real problem without actually exhibiting any curiosity about the distinctions is not a real testament to intellectual rigor

MichMan

(11,864 posts)
12. Given all that, do you agree with having vaccine mandates or do you think they are discriminatory?
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:38 PM
Sep 2021
 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
15. Vaccine mandates for other diseases are NOT discriminatory
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:50 PM
Sep 2021

Neither is the COVID vaccine mandate. All the holdouts need to stop whining and get the vaccine.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
16. I agree with vaxx mandates. I don't think supporting saving someone's life is
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:50 PM
Sep 2021

discriminatory at all.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
27. I absolutely agree with having vaccine mandates...
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:14 PM
Sep 2021

and I agree that easy access to the vaccine and information about it, should be readily available, wherever you live.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
14. I'm Black, and the BLM-NY guy is full of shit
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:48 PM
Sep 2021

This wasn't an issue with other vaccines, so get the damn COVID vaccine.

I got my vaccine in the Bronx, Co-op Circle to be exact. They were giving it away and they still are.

I have no patience for people like Newsome getting precious about mandates. Losing a loved one to COVID is a lot worse than the fearmongering surrounding the vaccine, so get the shot.

TheProle

(2,149 posts)
20. If the data in the story is demonstrably false
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:35 PM
Sep 2021

I will take it down of my own accord without need of your sage counsel.

For now, I would rethink telling someone (who didn’t write the story) that they don’t know what they’re talking about when your rebuttal is a self-reporting poll with ‘Opinion’ as the first word in the title.

TheProle

(2,149 posts)
25. I posted an article from a reputable news service
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:44 PM
Sep 2021

You’re free to alert on the thread. The “low post count” trope is tiresome and almost certainly says more about you than me.

brush

(53,726 posts)
26. Think. Of all the videos and protests against vaccines and masks...
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:47 PM
Sep 2021

it's white people. The least vaxxed people are white, male evangelicals.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
24. Their lives do matter
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:40 PM
Sep 2021

and his NY based group should be doing everything they can to promote vaccines which will prevent illness and death.

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