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Scrivener7

(50,913 posts)
2. Omg. I missed that.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:17 PM
Sep 2021

I see they are not breaking their perfect streak of really stupid pandemic advice.

Every single thing they have said since the very beginning of the pandemic when they said, "Just wash your hands a lot and you'll be just fine."

applegrove

(118,492 posts)
3. I know in Ontario Canada they vaccinated the front line long term care workers
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:19 PM
Sep 2021

before the residents of the long term care homes. Now they are vaccinating the residents of long term care first and I have not heard anything about the healthcare workers.

hlthe2b

(102,127 posts)
5. It is the advisory committee on immunization practices (ACIP) that has made this recommendation
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:22 PM
Sep 2021

and the votes were mixed, to say the least, on all possible measures.

While CDC rarely, if ever moves beyond this committee of independent experts, they certainly could revisit it quite quickly as more data comes in. CDC Director Wallensky COULD if she chose to move ahead now, but I'd guess that she won't.

I disagree with not including HCWs (as anyone who knows me would not be surprised to hear).

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
7. Is there evidence the existing vaccine regimen isn't working for frontline healthcare workers?
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:27 PM
Sep 2021

There is evidence it's fading for over 65s, so a booster makes sense for them. There's evidence that immunocompromised people didn't get great protection in the first place, and perhaps a 3rd jab may help.

sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
9. Many frontline workers were vaccinated earlier than 65+.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:22 PM
Sep 2021

My niece, ICU nurse, was vaccinated months before I was. I think they are making a huge mistake here. JMO.

sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
14. I am sure U remember.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:50 PM
Sep 2021

We are back at square one when they said old people will be the ones dying. We all know that wasn't true then or now. Boosters are needed for all... not just from COVID itself but from the carriers that are anti vax and anti mask that are doing everything in their power to make us unsafe.

I have issues with the CDC. Yes this virus was a learning curve for them but I am not sure if they have learned anything at all.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
15. Pfizer now has full approval.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:55 PM
Sep 2021

Which means it can be prescribed off label. I hope that means health care workers can still get their shot.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
17. But that doesn't mean the vaccine effectiveness is wearing off for them
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 04:21 AM
Sep 2021

The evidence from the English vaccines showed the effectiveness for under 65s holding up well over several months. It was the over 65s, with generally weaker immune systems, who had started to show a drop. It wasn't about them having longer since the shot.

IggleDuer

(964 posts)
8. The immune status of frontline healthcare workers is no different than others at the same age...
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:20 PM
Sep 2021

…What puts the elderly group at risk is that their immunity wanes. A 20-year old in health care is not in greater risk at the six-month point.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
12. They were vaccinated earlier than general population.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:24 PM
Sep 2021

Most likely with Pfizer, since that was the first available. Pfizer's induced immunity wanes.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
18. CDC Director Walensky has overruled the board and she is approving booster for frontline workers
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 04:57 AM
Sep 2021

We have been seeing way too much confusing contradictory news regarding the boosters. Seems like there is too much preliminary coverage in the news given to the votes by CDC and FDA advisory boards before the final official recommendations are issued causing a lot of needless back and forth confusion to the public.

MichMan

(11,868 posts)
19. That gives me confidence
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 09:25 AM
Sep 2021

A political appointee over ruling the opinion by her own advisory panel of scientific experts.

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