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joetheman

(1,450 posts)
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:49 PM Sep 2021

I had three friends on FB with whom I grew up in a small PA town.

We all came from hard working families, poor but we didn't know how poor because not a lot of TV and no social media.
I was shocked and saddened to find out just how RW-racist, homophobic, and sexist they were...even the one woman among them. They all utterly despised Obama and posted very nasty, ugly sentiments and photos of him and Michelle. But they hated Hillary even more. So you know they were Trump lovers, anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers, pro-guns, anti-govornment that wasn't run by Trump. I don't believe they really cared about abortion but they pretended to be strongly pro-life just to ow the libs.

Well, after months of protesting Biden's COVID efforts and plastering all kinds of false COVID info over FB, I am reporting that I just learned by going to their FB pages (I hadn't seen any FB posts from them lately so I assumed they had blocked me) that all three had died from COVID within weeks of each other. The End.

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I had three friends on FB with whom I grew up in a small PA town. (Original Post) joetheman Sep 2021 OP
I guess their karma ran over their dogma. Ocelot II Sep 2021 #1
Nice! brush Sep 2021 #3
Ooooooo Beatlelvr Sep 2021 #4
My mother had that as a bumper sticker 30 years ago or so! Lucky Luciano Sep 2021 #5
Eeeeeeeeeeeeexcellent! dixiechiken1 Sep 2021 #14
Most excellent! nt Ilsa Sep 2021 #21
OK that's a keeper. lindysalsagal Sep 2021 #28
yup Joinfortmill Sep 2021 #56
OUCH!!! calimary Sep 2021 #79
Karma's got shitty aim Bucky Sep 2021 #84
That, unfortunately, is true. If it weren't for that I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep over Ocelot II Sep 2021 #85
As the wise man once told me Sherman A1 Sep 2021 #2
The promotion of self destructive behavior mnhtnbb Sep 2021 #6
Same here, I have extended family and high school, trumpers all... Thomas Hurt Sep 2021 #7
Sucks to be stupid... orwell Sep 2021 #8
I've Been Stupid Long Enough COL Mustard Sep 2021 #45
Eventually we all sit down to a banquet of consequences hibbing Sep 2021 #9
Love this. Joinfortmill Sep 2021 #57
What a waste of human life. So sad. Diamond_Dog Sep 2021 #10
Yes it was, living or dead SouthernDem4ever Sep 2021 #52
What a waste of reQublicOn voters, not so sad. KS Toronado Sep 2021 #68
Yikes. That's gotta hurt in spite of the people they had become since the old days. panader0 Sep 2021 #11
Ok, they're going to need a bigger venue for the Herman Cain award spectacular. Comfortably_Numb Sep 2021 #12
I feel guilty for laughing my ass off at that Sugarcoated Sep 2021 #46
I'm sorry for your loss, it seems that you've grown smarter dreamland Sep 2021 #13
I'm sorry for your loss Sgent Sep 2021 #15
OMG. viva la Sep 2021 #16
You said it. Joinfortmill Sep 2021 #58
So sorry bucolic_frolic Sep 2021 #17
Aw man that sucks out loud. I can relate. I have two long time friends that are conservative mitch96 Sep 2021 #18
false noize sinclair radio fb and other multimedea poisened them. hem AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #19
They wanted to be poisoned or were already poisoned. Kaleva Sep 2021 #47
Our Plan is working. BadGimp Sep 2021 #20
Crap Piasladic Sep 2021 #22
THE END BigmanPigman Sep 2021 #23
sorry for your loss? maxsolomon Sep 2021 #24
So, Do You Feel "Owned" Now? SoCalDavidS Sep 2021 #25
Sorry to hear that. Xolodno Sep 2021 #26
So sorry. The Republican Party is a cartel. Ziggysmom Sep 2021 #27
I lived in Altoona for a brief time Nictuku Sep 2021 #29
Congrats, you made the cut FakeNoose Sep 2021 #30
On social media and in real life it's been many moments of pride... hunter Sep 2021 #31
Being from a small town myself this makes me sad ALBliberal Sep 2021 #32
You may be interested in submitting them to the Herman Cain Award Reddit. Crunchy Frog Sep 2021 #33
it's the radio certainot Sep 2021 #34
I am sorry you lost friends to the two biggest plagues we face as a nation. Gore1FL Sep 2021 #35
I'll drink to that... JoeOtterbein Sep 2021 #36
I am sorry for your loss. Grumpy Old Guy Sep 2021 #37
my first reaction after reading this was: oh my god! orleans Sep 2021 #38
Yuppers. That Jesus fella, he sure got himself a fine tuned sense of humor. N/t 3Hotdogs Sep 2021 #40
OMG Joinfortmill Sep 2021 #59
If this were a FB post, I'd mark it with the Sogo Sep 2021 #39
That's stupid and very sad. They died of brainwashing. One of life's great displeasures is going on diane in sf Sep 2021 #41
Gosh. Who could possibly have imagined? PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2021 #42
Just returned to Texas after a family reunion in your BEAUTIFUL state. czarjak Sep 2021 #43
And in the end... C Moon Sep 2021 #44
I grew up in western PA in the 50s and 60s left-of-center2012 Sep 2021 #48
OMG, all three? ShazzieB Sep 2021 #49
Wow. nt littlemissmartypants Sep 2021 #50
Darwin 3 Tribalism 0 Dukkha Sep 2021 #51
This is bleak and depressing Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #53
You are kind. Joinfortmill Sep 2021 #60
I know Dorian Gray Sep 2021 #71
I have lived in Pennsylvania all of my life. twodogsbarking Sep 2021 #54
That's the craziest part of all - GOP killing itself. Joinfortmill Sep 2021 #55
Except that they're serving as mutation incubators... I'm all in favor of this. NurseJackie Sep 2021 #61
+1 Hugin Sep 2021 #64
They are dying to own the libs IronLionZion Sep 2021 #62
My sister keeps up with the high school alumni, 2Gingersnaps Sep 2021 #63
I live in a small, rural, PA town appleannie1 Sep 2021 #65
You hang in there and stay safe. mahina Sep 2021 #69
Sounds so familiar. The other things that really angers me about them they were all "Christians" joetheman Sep 2021 #86
Exactly. A neighbor invited me for "free soup" night at a local church last night. appleannie1 Sep 2021 #87
Oops. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #66
Shite! That's some testimonial. Baitball Blogger Sep 2021 #67
That's awful. So many people just like them. So many leftyladyfrommo Sep 2021 #70
Post removed Post removed Sep 2021 #72
The End indeed. Texin Sep 2021 #73
How fitting and poetic. Their hatred is what killed them, with COVID along as a nightcap, Ironic. SWBTATTReg Sep 2021 #74
I'm waiting to lose someone on FB. Hasn't happened yet somehow. I'm 60 and am in my Idaho brewens Sep 2021 #75
Whew, I was afraid this was going to end sadly. dsharp88 Sep 2021 #76
Wow DownriverDem Sep 2021 #77
Saw a meme on FB that shows Neil deGrasse Tyson saying that every 10 days, 8000 Republican voters LymphocyteLover Sep 2021 #78
So sorry you lost them twice electric_blue68 Sep 2021 #80
A sad end to a sad story. lunatica Sep 2021 #81
A sad story but not too surprising given how the past 18 months have gone. Grammy23 Sep 2021 #82
I just had... Mike Nelson Sep 2021 #83
Darwin remains undefeated. kairos12 Sep 2021 #88
Please tell me this is Beaver County maxrandb Sep 2021 #89

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
84. Karma's got shitty aim
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 08:37 PM
Sep 2021

That 2-4% of covid-related moralities that are among the vaccinated keeps me from seeing the Darwin jokes as funny. The people dying from accidents and heart attacks, the people not getting needed cancer screens, cause the ERs are overcrowded take all the fun out of my smugness.

It's not just the people poking holes in the canoe who are gonna end up in the creek.

Ocelot II

(115,607 posts)
85. That, unfortunately, is true. If it weren't for that I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep over
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 09:01 PM
Sep 2021

these damn fools' bad karma.

mnhtnbb

(31,374 posts)
6. The promotion of self destructive behavior
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:00 PM
Sep 2021

by Republican leaders is causing tremendous damage to this country. It really makes you wonder whether the followers of the orange one and his cronies will ever come to their senses. How many have to die before others in the cult realize just how badly they've been conned?

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
7. Same here, I have extended family and high school, trumpers all...
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:01 PM
Sep 2021

and I don't think they have set foot in a church except for a funeral or wedding, not theirs.

Neither have they ever cracked a bible. The piety is ideological.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
11. Yikes. That's gotta hurt in spite of the people they had become since the old days.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:08 PM
Sep 2021

I know the feeling too. My oldest friend is an anti-vaxxer--1500 miles away. I'd be very sad if he
passed away. We grew up together in the 60's and early 70's before moving miles from each other.
COVID does not care what you think, only if you can be a host. Get vaccinated.

dreamland

(964 posts)
13. I'm sorry for your loss, it seems that you've grown smarter
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:15 PM
Sep 2021

..and wiser than them. It's a difficult thing to see how people can change for the worse especially when they're childhood friends. I doubt that they had any inclination to save themselves when they're down the MAGA hole.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
15. I'm sorry for your loss
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:22 PM
Sep 2021

even when its someone you have grown distant from, losing part of your childhood forever is never easy.

mitch96

(13,871 posts)
18. Aw man that sucks out loud. I can relate. I have two long time friends that are conservative
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 09:25 PM
Sep 2021

One that is on the right side of the fence and two that are liberal. One won't talk to me b/c I refuse to talk politics with him.. He lives for conservative foxnoise drivel. No matter what the politics they are all reasonably healthy. One right wing anti vaxer got COVID but thankfully only got a mild case.. He NEVER gets sick from anything.
And so it goes...
m

Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
47. They wanted to be poisoned or were already poisoned.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 01:43 AM
Sep 2021

All of us here are immune to Sinclair radio, FB, Fox, OAN, Newsmax because what they put out conflicts to our world view so we reject it. But for those whose world view is reinforced by what Sinclair radio, Fox, FB, OAN and Newsmax put out, they'll get sucked right in.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
23. THE END
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:05 PM
Sep 2021

How appropriate! I guess they also killed some of their hate filled, purposely ignorant friends and family.

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
24. sorry for your loss?
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:07 PM
Sep 2021

i'm getting numb, all the deaths are becoming abstract, just numbers.

"one death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" - j. stalin, supposedly

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
25. So, Do You Feel "Owned" Now?
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:15 PM
Sep 2021

If yes, then it was worth it to them.

May you live many more years, unlike them.

Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
26. Sorry to hear that.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:23 PM
Sep 2021

But, in the end, they did win. They owned the Libs.

The old axiom says that the price of victory is high, but so are the rewards. But I posit that the rewards are worthless if you are dead.

Ziggysmom

(3,394 posts)
27. So sorry. The Republican Party is a cartel.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:34 PM
Sep 2021

They only care about the pursuit of power for no purpose. They don't care about people, have never cared.

Nictuku

(3,587 posts)
29. I lived in Altoona for a brief time
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:41 PM
Sep 2021

Coming from the SF Bay Area, I was kind of shocked at how lily white it was there. I worked for a company in State College which had over 800 employees, and they had only one employee who was Indian (from India) and only one Black person.

The family of my boyfriend were Democrats however (teachers, of course), and I didn't encounter any of this kind of right wing stuff, but that was back in 1999. A lot has changed since then.

Once I gave my boyfriend back to his parents (he was too young), and moved back to the SF Bay Area, I actually had tears of Joy as I crossed that Golden Gate Bridge.

Diversity is what makes our country great! (I also grew up in Hawaii, which is a great melting pot of people of all colors and creeds).

The point of my post is that while Altoona was not very diverse, there were good people there as well.


hunter

(38,303 posts)
31. On social media and in real life it's been many moments of pride...
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:49 PM
Sep 2021

... when I've been rejected first.

ALBliberal

(2,334 posts)
32. Being from a small town myself this makes me sad
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:55 PM
Sep 2021

I have similar situations. Completely shocked that I was raised alongside some of these people. And even rekindled our friendships after our 30th reunion (2010).

I hope they didn’t leave young kids behind… spouses and so on.

I’m sorry for your sad news and probably shocking news as well!

Crunchy Frog

(26,578 posts)
33. You may be interested in submitting them to the Herman Cain Award Reddit.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 10:55 PM
Sep 2021
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/

It's sad that people you thought were friends turned out like that, but they can still benefit society in some small way by being object lessons.

The above site is beginning to get lots of posts from the formerly vax hesitant who have been moved to finally get vaccinated.

Gore1FL

(21,102 posts)
35. I am sorry you lost friends to the two biggest plagues we face as a nation.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 11:03 PM
Sep 2021

1> Covid 19
2> Disinformation

diane in sf

(3,913 posts)
41. That's stupid and very sad. They died of brainwashing. One of life's great displeasures is going on
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 11:50 PM
Sep 2021

FB and finding out people from high school and relatives have turned into frothing wingnuts.

czarjak

(11,254 posts)
43. Just returned to Texas after a family reunion in your BEAUTIFUL state.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 12:43 AM
Sep 2021

Could have been and probably will be someone we love. Just because, too.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
48. I grew up in western PA in the 50s and 60s
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:10 AM
Sep 2021

Back then it was a strong Democratic area but it has gone far right over the years.
I grew up in the area around Indiana County.

ShazzieB

(16,284 posts)
49. OMG, all three?
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 02:19 AM
Sep 2021


Holy cow. That blows my mind. Because, you know, not every RWNJ actually gets covid, and not every one that gets it succumbs to it. Sounds like they beat all the odds, and not in a good way. I'm sorry for your loss.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
51. Darwin 3 Tribalism 0
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 04:07 AM
Sep 2021

Once again Science and Nature prove they don't care about your beliefs. They are real whether you accept it or not.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
53. This is bleak and depressing
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 06:17 AM
Sep 2021

And while some people are celebrating this, they were victims of disinformation for political gain.

It should enrage everyone in their town. It makes me angry.

I know people like this who it can happen to, and while I get very frustrated by my MAGA childhood friends on social media, I know them and their families. They love people just like we do. They are brainwashed into believing that taking measures for their own health and the health of the greater community is not a beneficial stance.

I'm enraged about this!

While they individually are at fault for not pushing past the misinformation, of course, they are human. Their deaths do not deserve to be celebrated. Unless they are a part of the media perpetuating the misinformation, they should be mourned, not condemned.

Each one of these cases will be an inflection point for a community, and while I don't want to change minds this way, this is going to be what it takes in our landscape. And I mourn the people being misled into giving their own lives to this nonsense.

Joinfortmill

(14,395 posts)
60. You are kind.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 07:58 AM
Sep 2021

But, assuming they were of sound mind, they made a choice. Choices have consequences, sometimes terrible ones.

Hugin

(33,058 posts)
64. +1
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 09:20 AM
Sep 2021

I'm waiting for someone to find a monster variant brewing.

It should be called, Trump. He'd probably get a rush out of that.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
62. They are dying to own the libs
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 08:10 AM
Sep 2021

Some even post memes about that, as in they are unmasked, unvaxxed, and still alive so that proves it's all a hoax to take away our freedoms. Or that those of us who social distanced and masked have had a bad time while MAGA patriots have lived well and enjoyed freedom.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
63. My sister keeps up with the high school alumni,
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 09:08 AM
Sep 2021

funny back in the 70's we were all long hairs, rock n roll, and weed. It was rural Ohio, but where I grew up was a mix of farmers and off base Wright Patterson AFB housing. There were also about six campuses in the area even back then, so there was a broad transient population, you would assume people would be less narrow minded. Not so much. Apparently all that free thought was a fashion trend, not too many true believers. They are all hard core tRumpers, the only thing I see in common among them is the iron clad sense of entitlement and shocking lack of character. And if Mother Nature does the Darwin thing with these people, sorry, not sorry. When your one great aspiration in life is to kick down on the less fortunate, buh bye.

appleannie1

(5,062 posts)
65. I live in a small, rural, PA town
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 10:18 AM
Sep 2021

That story does not surprise me at all. My daughter is an ICU traveling nurse now and rarely sees her family because she is not home much. She has been working in overrun hospitals for over a year, all in the south. She no longer even communicates with people she went to school with, some of whom were in her wedding party. They all seem to think that COVID was just a big city thing and they were immune because they did not live in the dirty city. They hate Gov. Wolf with a passion because he shut down the restaurants and bars where they all hang out. How dare he tromp on "their rights". They never wear masks unless forced to. Why should they? Then they use all their breath to complain they "can't breathe". I recently learned that at least two of them died of COVID. The county I live in is a hot spot now because they are not going to be test animals and get a shot that has "God knows what" in it. I have quit shopping at the local meat market and am looking for a new hair salon to get my hair cut because no one wears masks where I have gone for years. I even quit getting physical therapy recently for a problem I have. Even though the delta variant is spreading all over this area the PT place only put bottles of spray out and left it up to whoever was using the equipment to wipe it down when done. At least 75% were not doing that and no one, absolutely no one was wearing masks in a room full of sweating people doing exercises. I bought an exercise bike and other stuff and now do exercises at home. They all think I am crazy.

 

joetheman

(1,450 posts)
86. Sounds so familiar. The other things that really angers me about them they were all "Christians"
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:17 PM
Sep 2021

and spent a lot of time reminding readers that the "Islamics" were coming here to turn us into an anti-Christian nation. i even went to the site of one of their churches. Everything was so warm and fuzzy about church activities. Then I began to read their community page where there were dozens of comments about praying for bereaved families who lost someone to COVD. From the videos of the church services the congregation is mostly unmasked and I bet unvaxxed.

appleannie1

(5,062 posts)
87. Exactly. A neighbor invited me for "free soup" night at a local church last night.
Sat Sep 25, 2021, 12:48 PM
Sep 2021

Before Covid I would go with them because the soup was good and I don't make soup often since I am now alone. Last night I refused because I know I would have been the only one there wearing a mask on entry and would have to sit unmasked to eat in a whole room full of unmasked, unvaxxed people. And it would have been those same people that made the two kinds of soup and brought the desserts and served. I am not in any hurry to be a crossover and am looking forward to getting my booster.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,866 posts)
70. That's awful. So many people just like them. So many
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 11:27 AM
Sep 2021

families losing fathers and mothers and children and friends.

Somehow spreading misinformation purposely should be illegal. Especially when American citizens are dying as a result.

Response to joetheman (Original post)

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
74. How fitting and poetic. Their hatred is what killed them, with COVID along as a nightcap, Ironic.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:02 PM
Sep 2021

Thanks for posting.

In a way, posting this about one's ex-friends from one's childhood can't be easy for you, I'd be sad if such were my friends from my childhood, and then turn out to be so hateful, so RW, so sexist.

A true disappointment, especially when one is young, and the world is wide open to one's dream, and is so full of rich possibilities.

It would be somewhat interesting to see where this single minded hatred came from, but then again, I don't really want to know, for anything they say or try to explain would all be a lie, would be full of distortions and such, that one wouldn't learn anything other than the raw hate radiating from them.

Hatred seems to breed by itself, in isolated pockets/regions of the Country, perhaps it's a sign that these people have been forgotten by Society (or ignored most likely) and the only way they knew how to speak out was hate.

Thanks for sharing your story w/ all of us here on DU.

brewens

(13,542 posts)
75. I'm waiting to lose someone on FB. Hasn't happened yet somehow. I'm 60 and am in my Idaho
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:06 PM
Sep 2021

home town. Not just any town either. We're like the COVIDiot HQ here. It's a miracle that none of my almost 400, mostly local friends are still alive. Many are flag humpin', FG lovin', morans too. It will be any day. No doubt about it.

If I see one of those COVIDiot deathbed conversions, it'll be hard to not say good riddance. Almost everyone real close to me is vaccinated, thankfully my sister too. Her husband would be an anti-vaxer if his daughter hadn't mandated it to see the grandkids. If he had convinced my sister to not get vaccinated and anything happened to her, his ass would be grass and he knows it. That may have helped too.

dsharp88

(487 posts)
76. Whew, I was afraid this was going to end sadly.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 03:56 PM
Sep 2021

Now they can't kill more Americans any longer. Darwin is always correct in the end.

LymphocyteLover

(5,638 posts)
78. Saw a meme on FB that shows Neil deGrasse Tyson saying that every 10 days, 8000 Republican voters
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 04:02 PM
Sep 2021

are dying of COVID.

Que sera sera...

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
81. A sad end to a sad story.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 05:37 PM
Sep 2021

But they may have left a wake of pain when they were alive, so my best wishes for the survivors, you included!

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
82. A sad story but not too surprising given how the past 18 months have gone.
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 07:33 PM
Sep 2021


I used to attend my class reunions fairly regularly. I graduated from a Mississippi Gulf Coast high school. After Facebook came on the scene, I decided to look at FB pages of some of the people I knew. I did NOT ask to be a friend with any of them. I also signed up on a FB page for my graduating class. I periodically check in to see what’s going on and to see who has died. Sad, but 55 years after graduation, many have died. I discovered that many are uber religious, right wing and prejudiced. (Not too surprised.) Not all are that way but most of the ones who never left are full on, right wing, religious zealots. So I have decided to not go to any more reunions. I have nothing in common with most of them other than graduating from the same high school a very long time ago.

So sometimes FB actually serves a good purpose. I could look at books they read, favorite TV shows and assorted other bits and pieces that told me a lot about their lives. They freely gave out that information and in some cases proudly declared their prejudices. It is disappointing to find out but it is a good thing to spare myself going to an event that was always stressful for me any way.

Sorry you had to learn of your former friends deaths. But it sounds like you would not be friends any more all these years later.

Mike Nelson

(9,944 posts)
83. I just had...
Fri Sep 24, 2021, 08:30 PM
Sep 2021

... a friend die yesterday. Not in my exact year, but a classmate, too... very pro-Trump and anti-vax. He fit the profile so well, just like your three. Still, I am incredibly sad. He was a good kid, long ago...

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